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Post by cabot on Nov 5, 2015 4:44:11 GMT -8
If there's one constant in all this, it's that I'm telling the truth and you can all trust me.
Unfortunately, I'm clueless as to what to do, so being able to trust me really doesn't help much of anyone.
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Post by Roytheone on Nov 5, 2015 4:46:20 GMT -8
Thanks kawl, and I apologise in advance but I have some terrible news for you... ...but I hate to be the bearer of bad news so congratulations Terra, you are the fresh Prince of Innsmouth!Well, except for the fact that I changed myself to the prince. So Kawl can never be the real prince. So if you indeed switched Terra with Kawl, Terra will still have no idea who he is now.
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Post by zippedpinhead on Nov 5, 2015 4:47:04 GMT -8
Thanks kawl, and I apologise in advance but I have some terrible news for you... ...but I hate to be the bearer of bad news so congratulations Terra, you are the fresh Prince of Innsmouth! But I'm thinking that terra is minion, probably not tanner. That would make kawlusc the minion now... Doesn't help us on werewolves or who the real tanner is. Of course this assumes that you are telling the truth. Too many seers, too many witches,
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Post by zippedpinhead on Nov 5, 2015 4:48:02 GMT -8
Too many princes too...
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Post by Splinter on Nov 5, 2015 4:48:56 GMT -8
Thanks kawl, and I apologise in advance but I have some terrible news for you... ...but I hate to be the bearer of bad news so congratulations Terra, you are the fresh Prince of Innsmouth!Well, except for the fact that I changed myself to the prince. So Kawl can never be the real prince. So if you indeed switched Terra with Kawl, Terra will still have no idea who he is now. Roy pls, you are such a minion, stahp
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Post by Roytheone on Nov 5, 2015 4:54:09 GMT -8
Well, except for the fact that I changed myself to the prince. So Kawl can never be the real prince. So if you indeed switched Terra with Kawl, Terra will still have no idea who he is now. Roy pls, you are such a minion, stahp Yeah, sure, I am the minion! And my great plan was to fake claim witch and say I changed myself to a role people aren't likely to vote on instead of using my fake witch claim to help a wolf master because.......ehm.....nope, if I was a minion my claim would make NO SENSE. Try again.
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Post by Splinter on Nov 5, 2015 4:54:59 GMT -8
Yesterday I was wolf, Roy and Zipped jumped in to defend me. Today kawl is wolf, Roy and Zipped have jumped in to defend him.
That's game ladies and gentlemen
Kawl: Sorry again Terra: I'll get you next game
/bow
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Post by cabot on Nov 5, 2015 4:56:42 GMT -8
Damn it splinter, I hate you and love you at the same time.
It's so conflicting
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Post by Kawl on Nov 5, 2015 4:56:48 GMT -8
Well, except for the fact that I changed myself to the prince. So Kawl can never be the real prince. So if you indeed switched Terra with Kawl, Terra will still have no idea who he is now. Roy pls, you are such a minion, stahp Frankly if there was one person whose claim I'm not trusting until the final minute before the day is over, it's you splinter.
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Post by cabot on Nov 5, 2015 4:57:57 GMT -8
you're learning quickly, kawl. That's pleasant to see.
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Post by Roytheone on Nov 5, 2015 5:01:19 GMT -8
Yesterday I was wolf, Roy and Zipped jumped in to defend me. Today kawl is wolf, Roy and Zipped have jumped in to defend him.That's game ladies and gentlemen Kawl: Sorry again Terra: I'll get you next game /bow What? Now you are just straight up making shit up. I never defended Kawl, I even actually attacked his Prince claim. WTF are you doing splinter?
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Post by cabot on Nov 5, 2015 5:06:33 GMT -8
Roy and Zipped also like to maim small animals and set children on fire.
They're sick individuals
#SplinterReasoning
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Post by Splinter on Nov 5, 2015 5:08:29 GMT -8
Yesterday I was wolf, Roy and Zipped jumped in to defend me. Today kawl is wolf, Roy and Zipped have jumped in to defend him.That's game ladies and gentlemen Kawl: Sorry again Terra: I'll get you next game /bow What? Now you are just straight up making shit up. I never defended Kawl, I even actually attacked his Prince claim. WTF are you doing splinter? Oh ok that's true. It was Zipped who said he's the unlynchable minion. You put doubt on his claim instead so that Terra is less likely to out his former teammates. If you have a pro-town explanation for that then I'm all ears (Not that it matters much at this point)
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Post by Splinter on Nov 5, 2015 5:08:56 GMT -8
Damn it splinter, I hate you and love you at the same time. It's so conflicting ily2 bb
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Post by Kawl on Nov 5, 2015 5:19:06 GMT -8
Splinter, Don't see any reason for why you are so ready to assume werewolf over minion when Terra never revealed teammates.
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Post by Roytheone on Nov 5, 2015 5:20:22 GMT -8
What? Now you are just straight up making shit up. I never defended Kawl, I even actually attacked his Prince claim. WTF are you doing splinter? Oh ok that's true. It was Zipped who said he's the unlynchable minion. You put doubt on his claim instead so that Terra is less likely to out his former teammates. If you have a pro-town explanation for that then I'm all ears (Not that it matters much at this point) HAHAHAHAHA, wait, let me check my calendar, I apparently missed that it is opposite day already! I was actively asking Terra to out his furry friends, and you were actively asking him to NOT do that. And now I am suddenly trying to stop Terra from outing his wolf buddies? Give me a break. And about the pro-town explanation: in what world is outing someone as a lair about his role claim NOT a pro town move? I know Kawl is lying about his prince claim, I don't know what he really is. I also have no idea what Terra really is, he claimed wolf earlier, and I guess it is possible that he made a huge ass mistake with that claim, really is the wolf and that wolf card is now in possession of Kawl, but I am not willing to just blindly vote for Kawl right now, there are still so many weird ass contradictions around. Like mike_hawk, who claimed do have done something which is impossible looking at the rules!
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Post by MikeHawk on Nov 5, 2015 5:41:41 GMT -8
Oh ok that's true. It was Zipped who said he's the unlynchable minion. You put doubt on his claim instead so that Terra is less likely to out his former teammates. If you have a pro-town explanation for that then I'm all ears (Not that it matters much at this point) HAHAHAHAHA, wait, let me check my calendar, I apparently missed that it is opposite day already! I was actively asking Terra to out his furry friends, and you were actively asking him to NOT do that. And now I am suddenly trying to stop Terra from outing his wolf buddies? Give me a break. And about the pro-town explanation: in what world is outing someone as a lair about his role claim NOT a pro town move? I know Kawl is lying about his prince claim, I don't know what he really is. I also have no idea what Terra really is, he claimed wolf earlier, and I guess it is possible that he made a huge ass mistake with that claim, really is the wolf and that wolf card is now in possession of Kawl, but I am not willing to just blindly vote for Kawl right now, there are still so many weird ass contradictions around. Like mike_hawk, who claimed do have done something which is impossible looking at the rules! I read the rules and order of roles again. The only explanation of why you received the dopple card when i switched you with card 4 is: alpha switch dopple with card 4. Making old dopper a vanilla wolf. Then comes my turn and you roy become dopper. Tadaaa!
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Post by Kawl on Nov 5, 2015 6:11:34 GMT -8
HAHAHAHAHA, wait, let me check my calendar, I apparently missed that it is opposite day already! I was actively asking Terra to out his furry friends, and you were actively asking him to NOT do that. And now I am suddenly trying to stop Terra from outing his wolf buddies? Give me a break. And about the pro-town explanation: in what world is outing someone as a lair about his role claim NOT a pro town move? I know Kawl is lying about his prince claim, I don't know what he really is. I also have no idea what Terra really is, he claimed wolf earlier, and I guess it is possible that he made a huge ass mistake with that claim, really is the wolf and that wolf card is now in possession of Kawl, but I am not willing to just blindly vote for Kawl right now, there are still so many weird ass contradictions around. Like mike_hawk, who claimed do have done something which is impossible looking at the rules! I read the rules and order of roles again. The only explanation of why you received the dopple card when i switched you with card 4 is: alpha switch dopple with card 4. Making old dopper a vanilla wolf. Then comes my turn and you roy become dopper. Tadaaa! That was my understanding of how something like that could play out. Up above there was some discussion regarding whether doppelgänger seen by any other roles shows as the dopple or as the card they choose to become. A clarification from Sorian might be nice as it is a little unclear.
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Post by zippedpinhead on Nov 5, 2015 6:12:16 GMT -8
so wait.. I'M A WOLF?
please...
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Post by Sorian on Nov 5, 2015 6:19:15 GMT -8
I can't even get a good night's sleep without you all going off the deep end. I will clarify one thing and one thing only.
If the doppel card copies another role, it will stay as that role for the rest of the game. It will never transform back to doppel and it will never transform a second time.
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Post by Roytheone on Nov 5, 2015 6:19:52 GMT -8
HAHAHAHAHA, wait, let me check my calendar, I apparently missed that it is opposite day already! I was actively asking Terra to out his furry friends, and you were actively asking him to NOT do that. And now I am suddenly trying to stop Terra from outing his wolf buddies? Give me a break. And about the pro-town explanation: in what world is outing someone as a lair about his role claim NOT a pro town move? I know Kawl is lying about his prince claim, I don't know what he really is. I also have no idea what Terra really is, he claimed wolf earlier, and I guess it is possible that he made a huge ass mistake with that claim, really is the wolf and that wolf card is now in possession of Kawl, but I am not willing to just blindly vote for Kawl right now, there are still so many weird ass contradictions around. Like mike_hawk, who claimed do have done something which is impossible looking at the rules! I read the rules and order of roles again. The only explanation of why you received the dopple card when i switched you with card 4 is: alpha switch dopple with card 4. Making old dopper a vanilla wolf. Then comes my turn and you roy become dopper. Tadaaa! Eh, no. the doppler goes BEFORE the alpha switch, so the doppler would already have been changed to a different role.
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Post by MikeHawk on Nov 5, 2015 6:25:41 GMT -8
Lets say player 1 is a dopple. Player 2 is alpha. P3 is seer. If p1 copies p3, p1 becomes seer. If p2 uses his power to make p1 a wolf, the dopple card itself will be moved to card 4. P1 will still have the seer power but his new card is now wolf and card 4 is dopple
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Post by Kawl on Nov 5, 2015 6:28:30 GMT -8
Lets say player 1 is a dopple. Player 2 is alpha. P3 is seer. If p1 copies p3, p1 becomes seer. If p2 uses his power to make p1 a wolf, the dopple card itself will be moved to card 4. P1 will still have the seer power but his new card is now wolf and card 4 is dopple That's what I was thinking originally. I believe from Sorian's clarification what actually happens is that the dopple card is essentially removed from the game and an additional seer card is added in. So seer would be card 4 in that case.
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Post by zippedpinhead on Nov 5, 2015 6:29:08 GMT -8
Lets say player 1 is a dopple. Player 2 is alpha. P3 is seer. If p1 copies p3, p1 becomes seer. If p2 uses his power to make p1 a wolf, the dopple card itself will be moved to card 4. P1 will still have the seer power but his new card is now wolf and card 4 is dopple That's not how it works... As sorian said, once the dopple has decided to use his/her power the card changes to the doppled character. So the Dopple character itself would no longer exist. The only way for a dopple card to appear as card 4 (it isn't card 4 is tanner) is if the dopple did not dopple anyone. which isn't fun so is unlikely to have occurred. still no response from Splinter? are you saying I am a wolf? yes or no?
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Post by Kawl on Nov 5, 2015 6:32:22 GMT -8
As a follow up to the dopple card confusion, what happens with regards to card 4 if there is no Alpha?
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Post by Roytheone on Nov 5, 2015 6:35:49 GMT -8
As a follow up to the dopple card confusion, what happens with regards to card 4 if there is no Alpha? It will stay the werewolf card unless a witch or drunk interacts with it.
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Post by zippedpinhead on Nov 5, 2015 6:35:51 GMT -8
As a follow up to the dopple card confusion, what happens with regards to card 4 if there is no Alpha? It stays as vanilla werewolf, so if anyone messes or looks at it they would see a vanilla werewolf/ whatever it was switched with from the witch. The drunk goes last so if HE/SHE messes with card 4 it is at their own peril.
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Post by Splinter on Nov 5, 2015 6:36:37 GMT -8
so wait.. I'M A WOLF? please... Yesterday I thought you were minion and Roy wolf. Today I got the two of you mixed up. But whatever, between the two of you is 1 wolf 1 minion, and I don't care which is which because Terra is wolf all day every day (until I switched him)
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Post by Roytheone on Nov 5, 2015 6:38:09 GMT -8
so wait.. I'M A WOLF? please... Yesterday I thought you were minion and Roy wolf. Today I got the two of you mixed up. But whatever, between the two of you is 1 wolf 1 minion, and I don't care which is which because Terra is wolf all day every day (until I switched him) amuse me: if I am lying about my witch claim, who is the real witch? We already established that what mike claims is literally impossible.
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Post by Splinter on Nov 5, 2015 6:40:20 GMT -8
Yesterday I thought you were minion and Roy wolf. Today I got the two of you mixed up. But whatever, between the two of you is 1 wolf 1 minion, and I don't care which is which because Terra is wolf all day every day (until I switched him) amuse me: if I am lying about my witch claim, who is the real witch? We already established that what mike claims is literally impossible. How should I know? I don't read posts that aren't mine
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