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Post by MikeHawk on Nov 4, 2015 19:29:58 GMT -8
It can be made up. Or he's the real dopple and not you? No, if there's one non-lie right now, it's that I'm the real Doppel. Was a dopple, because now roy is the dopple Edit:typo. Can we edit? Or is it just like gaf rules?
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Post by Retro on Nov 4, 2015 19:33:05 GMT -8
Gaf rules. Please do not edit.
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Post by MikeHawk on Nov 4, 2015 19:34:21 GMT -8
Gaf rules. Please do not edit. Sir yes sir!
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Post by Retro on Nov 4, 2015 19:34:52 GMT -8
Editing should now be disabled, except for the Mods. Sorry, meant to do it earlier.
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Post by MikeHawk on Nov 4, 2015 19:35:51 GMT -8
Ah nice. Kinda liking this taptalk app gives me notification so i can stay up to date!
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Post by Sorian on Nov 4, 2015 19:41:42 GMT -8
Editing should now be disabled, except for the Mods. Sorry, meant to do it earlier. Thank you thank you
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Post by SalvaPot on Nov 4, 2015 19:42:14 GMT -8
Well I know for sure Zip could be saying the truth if he is the Doppl, since we coincide that card 4 is Tanner, I think that is too much of a coincidence. BUT if that was the case then he would already contradicted pop since there can not be two doppelgangers. So I think Pop and Zip are working together.
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Post by SalvaPot on Nov 4, 2015 20:27:05 GMT -8
Ok, looked back, this is what I have to say so far:
Timeline
dopp
werewolf
terra said to be wolf after splinter claimed to switch him
alpha wolf
mystic wolf
tanner wife
mason
lone prodigy
seer
I am the Seer (SalvaPot) card 3 tanner´s wife
card 4 tanner
Zip could know card 4 is Tanner somehow, or that is just a coincidence. He also says the Mystic wolf is card 1. He could be Dopp or lying, since I am the seer.
Retro claims to be the seer and scrafty is the drunk (I am the seer, so no, he could be dop?)
robber
witch
Roytheone claims he put card 3 on himself, it was prince. Also lying because the card is Tanner´s wife not prince.
Mike Hawl is lying because he couldn´t give the card to roy
troublemaker
Splinter, claims to have switched himself with terra, can he switch himself?
Drunk
Scrafty, card 3, so she has tanner´s wife it seems.
tanner
cursed
Cabot
prince
So this who I know for sure are lying: Roy because he lied about card 3 and Mike Hawl because he lied about card 4.
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Post by SalvaPot on Nov 4, 2015 20:31:51 GMT -8
So who is the Doppel? Retro or Zip?
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Post by SalvaPot on Nov 4, 2015 20:32:43 GMT -8
Oh and Pop is obviously lying too, but I´ll elaborate after the real Doppel makes a claim.
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Post by Lone_Prodigy on Nov 4, 2015 21:09:24 GMT -8
I should've claimed Seer.
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Post by Sorian on Nov 4, 2015 21:57:42 GMT -8
Good night lovelies. Don't get into trouble. By the way, I'm the Seer
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Post by SalvaPot on Nov 4, 2015 22:05:47 GMT -8
Hey Sorian, the Troublemaker says nothing about switching with himself, so can it switch with itself?
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Post by Sorian on Nov 4, 2015 22:08:19 GMT -8
Hey Sorian, the Troublemaker says nothing about switching with himself, so can it switch with itself? The troublemaker can not switch with itself.
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Post by Pop-O-Matic on Nov 4, 2015 22:14:32 GMT -8
Oh and Pop is obviously lying too, but I´ll elaborate after the real Doppel makes a claim. OK, what proof do you have that I'm not the Doppel?
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Post by SalvaPot on Nov 4, 2015 22:36:07 GMT -8
Oh and Pop is obviously lying too, but I´ll elaborate after the real Doppel makes a claim. OK, what proof do you have that I'm not the Doppel? Its pretty simple, really. If I am the real seer, then the only way Zip can also be Seer is that he is actually Doppelganger and copied me. But if Zip is the real Doppel, then you, Pop, can not be Doppel. There can only be one Doppel. And also, if Zip is not actually Doppel, that still means you, Pop, lied about copying his Seer ability, because he doesn´t have a seer ability. So either you are not Doppel and are lying to cover your ass OR you are actually Doppel and copied Zip´s ability, but his ability is not Seer, it is actually a scum ability. A werewolf.
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Post by Splinter on Nov 4, 2015 22:47:54 GMT -8
That was fun. You can relax though Terra, I did swap you last night and I'm pretty sure you are townie now
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Post by Splinter on Nov 4, 2015 22:52:44 GMT -8
Isn't it impossible for card 4 to be dopple? Unless the real dopple decided to take no action for some reason, wouldn't card 4 show the role that was copied?
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Post by Splinter on Nov 4, 2015 22:53:26 GMT -8
Kawl you need to claim
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Post by SalvaPot on Nov 4, 2015 22:55:24 GMT -8
We would need to ask Sorian, but I think the actual card could be Doppl, Sorian, if the card 4 belonged to the Doppl, is it still Doppl or is it the copied role?
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Post by Pop-O-Matic on Nov 4, 2015 23:12:27 GMT -8
OK, what proof do you have that I'm not the Doppel? Its pretty simple, really. If I am the real seer, then the only way Zip can also be Seer is that he is actually Doppelganger and copied me. But if Zip is the real Doppel, then you, Pop, can not be Doppel. There can only be one Doppel. And also, if Zip is not actually Doppel, that still means you, Pop, lied about copying his Seer ability, because he doesn´t have a seer ability. So either you are not Doppel and are lying to cover your ass OR you are actually Doppel and copied Zip´s ability, but his ability is not Seer, it is actually a scum ability. A werewolf. Well you're leaving out option 3: You're the one lying and me and Zipped are telling the truth
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Post by SalvaPot on Nov 4, 2015 23:40:39 GMT -8
Its pretty simple, really. If I am the real seer, then the only way Zip can also be Seer is that he is actually Doppelganger and copied me. But if Zip is the real Doppel, then you, Pop, can not be Doppel. There can only be one Doppel. And also, if Zip is not actually Doppel, that still means you, Pop, lied about copying his Seer ability, because he doesn´t have a seer ability. So either you are not Doppel and are lying to cover your ass OR you are actually Doppel and copied Zip´s ability, but his ability is not Seer, it is actually a scum ability. A werewolf. Well you're leaving out option 3: You're the one lying and me and Zipped are telling the truth Sure, but I am working alone, since I don´t know who is who besides the two cards I saw. On the other hand, so far you and Zip have been playing nice with each other, as if you are mutually protecting each other. I know you are lying Pop, and I know zip is lying too, but I still don´t know if Zip was trying to sniff out the real seer or he thought he could just disorientate town. Either way, I know both witches and the other two seers are lying about their role. That means I can only trust for now the claim of lone prodigy, cabot and splinter.
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Post by Roytheone on Nov 5, 2015 1:53:24 GMT -8
We would need to ask Sorian, but I think the actual card could be Doppl, Sorian, if the card 4 belonged to the Doppl, is it still Doppl or is it the copied role? No we don't. When a dopple changes his role, every other role that can see people's roles will see his NEW role. So splinter is right, the only way for a unchanged doppler role to find its ways in card slot 4 is if it starts out in the middle, gets moved onto the drunk by the witch, and the drunk will switch it to card slot 4. And if that happened, that would still mean Mike is lying.
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Post by Splinter on Nov 5, 2015 2:22:28 GMT -8
We would need to ask Sorian, but I think the actual card could be Doppl, Sorian, if the card 4 belonged to the Doppl, is it still Doppl or is it the copied role? No we don't. When a dopple changes his role, every other role that can see people's roles will see his NEW role. So splinter is right, the only way for a unchanged doppler role to find its ways in card slot 4 is if it starts out in the middle, gets moved onto the drunk by the witch, and the drunk will switch it to card slot 4. And if that happened, that would still mean Mike is lying. I would still like Sorian or at least Retro to weigh in on this
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Post by Splinter on Nov 5, 2015 2:25:16 GMT -8
Actually I guess that makes sense. I think Retro is another seer anyway so not exactly impartial.
Can someone post a list of unclaimed roles?
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Post by Roytheone on Nov 5, 2015 2:30:12 GMT -8
Actually I guess that makes sense. I think Retro is another seer anyway so not exactly impartial. Can someone post a list of unclaimed roles? -Vanilla werewolf (note: this is the wolf that the alpha wolf moves from card 4 to his target, you CAN NOT get this role from the start) -alpha wolf -mystic wolf -minion -the second mason -robber Tanner, Tanner's wife and prince have been claimed to be middle cards that have been moved by people.
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Post by Roytheone on Nov 5, 2015 2:52:59 GMT -8
So, after rereading my notes of this game, here are some random thoughts:
-This game is a clusterfuck right now, seriously, so many claims that contradict each-other, it is ridiculous. -Kawl is the only one that hasn't claimed yet, and he better do that sooner rather than later. If he claims seer I am going to punch him in the dick. -L_P has claimed mason, but hasn't told us if and who he saw as his partner. Please do this soon. - Terra claimed woof woof, but didn't tell us his furry friends. He backed up from his claim when splinter confessed he lied about his troublemaker switch. - MikeHawk is for certain lying, not only because I am the real witch, but also because the dopple role never could have been in card 4. - salva is for certain lying, because he could never have seen card 3 as the tanner's wife, since it was the prince.
That leaves Retro and zipped their seer claims as direct contradictions. Retro got backed up by scrafty, and Zipped by Popsicle. Clearly, one of this duo is telling the truth, and one are lying to protect each other. We just have to find out which is which.
Also, and this is more just a guess, I think there is an alpha wolf from the start, and he indeed changed the tanner into a woof woof, since both contradiction teams have a seer that saw tanner in card 4.
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Post by zippedpinhead on Nov 5, 2015 3:33:16 GMT -8
Maybe I'm lying and I'm the real witch?
It's plausible. Roytheone was the tanner, claimed fake witch to throw us off but now isn't tanner, and whoever I turned into the tanner by switching with card 4 is now the tanner.
On the other hand I could be the mystic wolf and saw the vanilla werewolf, saw the witch claim and decided who would play like that with some incredibly lucky guesswork...
Eh they are so far fetched...
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Post by Kawl on Nov 5, 2015 3:40:34 GMT -8
Sorry about the delay, just woke up. I suppose the time has come to reveal my role. I was this game's most important role: the se-
The Prince! And frankly the thread title change to pander to these bunch of lunatic seers is upsetting.
Since I had no night action I figured waiting to see if someone would make a claim pertaining to prince was my best shot at being helpful.
And you Roy has been so kind as to do so. Which means there's either another dopple witch running around or you are lying.
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Post by Splinter on Nov 5, 2015 4:34:45 GMT -8
Thanks kawl, and I apologise in advance but I have some terrible news for you...
...but I hate to be the bearer of bad news so congratulations Terra, you are the fresh Prince of Innsmouth!
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