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Post by Ty4on on Jun 29, 2016 17:23:37 GMT -8
If so and Kark isn't Danny then they only possible Danny Phantoms I see are Flush and Star, leaning Flush.
I think it's just Kark being Kark though.
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Post by Ty4on on Jun 30, 2016 4:53:30 GMT -8
Wow, I might not even need to claim.
Right now my plan is to claim ordinary, if Kark reveals my role name (which I think is unlikely) I will claim bulletproof and reason that I didn't think there was any role cop because of kingkitty's miller claim.
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Post by Ty4on on Jun 30, 2016 8:55:42 GMT -8
Fuck, Royal Flush makes so much sense as Danny (from memory his reads are really similar to Darryl's) and is an unlikely doctor target when his identity is unknown. I still think we should target Stanley though. Flush is just a very tempting target Even if we're 99% certain he's Danny and an unlikely doctor/switcher target I think we should leave him and wait for the next night. Cop can do more harm.
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Post by ultron87 on Jun 30, 2016 11:07:05 GMT -8
You can respond to that contradiction Kark is noting by saying that the context is obviously different when, after a lynch result and a night phase between your two posts, it goes from "vote before day end" to "random vote that was off the majority who lynched a townie". He's right that it is a little odd to call someone out for something you also did, but the two positions aren't mutually exclusive.
Could also just say you wanted to prod, but wanted a little more than just "hey, they haven't posted VOTE".
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Post by Ty4on on Jun 30, 2016 11:42:12 GMT -8
Could also just say you wanted to prod, but wanted a little more than just "hey, they haven't posted VOTE". That's basically what I thought when posting it IIRC.
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Post by Ty4on on Jun 30, 2016 12:08:50 GMT -8
What do you think of killing Stanley BTW?
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Post by Ty4on on Jun 30, 2016 12:27:17 GMT -8
"Blarg with StarSketch " Capital letters: BSSP B SS P BP -> bulletproof SS -> skuddsikker
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Post by ultron87 on Jun 30, 2016 15:07:14 GMT -8
Stanley could be a decent target.
So we're in pickle here because I think Karkador is bullshitting because constant private chat between townie and a role cop is way too good. And Danny might be depowered anyway. Also I think Darryl would've brought it up at some point. But he's unfortunately RNGed/made a read onto one of us. I'm torn between expressing my doubts of the role or just saying "hey, let's test it out, Ty4on has been doing the whole "ask questions to keep post count up" thing and we have nothing better". It'd certainly be a bus on you and would make town trust him, which might be pretty bad for us. We might have to go and kill or even strongman him tonight if that is how it goes.
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Post by Ty4on on Jun 30, 2016 15:14:04 GMT -8
We need three mislynches and three successful NKs to win. Who are those three? Panda and Trigger seem like obvious ones right now, but if Stanley is cop he cleared Star and Blarg and there's no obvious third target. The others (melonrabbit, Flush) could also have claims up their sleeves that protect them. Maybe worth bringing up Blarg possibly being a godfather? He's a lightning rod, predicted a cop claim in this game and felt the need to claim miller unprovoked in Love Boat. Speak up if you doubt my cop read of Stanley. Would really suck to kill a blendy ordinary. ---------------- A mass claim is probably imminent so fake claims? I have no idea what is least likely to be counterclaimed. Maybe mostly ordinary? Seems to be a lot of them in this game. Maybe gryvan could claim mayor? He can pretend to save it for the lylo
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Post by Ty4on on Jun 30, 2016 15:21:00 GMT -8
Stanley could be a decent target. So we're in pickle here because I think Karkador is bullshitting because constant private chat between townie and a role cop is way too good. And Danny might be depowered anyway. Also I think Darryl would've brought it up at some point. But he's unfortunately RNGed/made a read onto one of us. I'm torn between expressing my doubts of the role or just saying "hey, let's test it out, Ty4on has been doing the whole "ask questions to keep post count up" thing and we have nothing better". It'd certainly be a bus on you and would make town trust him, which might be pretty bad for us. We might have to go and kill or even strongman him tonight if that is how it goes. Not quite sure where this goes. I read from Kark's replies that he had a scum read and was testing me. No votes either... Def bus me if push comes to shove. That requirement for three mislynches to win is the same with 4 or 1 scum as long as we secure NKs and we have an OK number of NK targets to burn through.
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Post by Ty4on on Jun 30, 2016 15:25:23 GMT -8
I do understand being torn there. I have the same with bringing up you guys.
What read/post do you think you'd make as a townie? Isn't it a bit late for testing stuff?
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Post by gryvan on Jun 30, 2016 15:43:16 GMT -8
We need three mislynches and three successful NKs to win. Who are those three? Panda and Trigger seem like obvious ones right now, but if Stanley is cop he cleared Star and Blarg and there's no obvious third target. The others (melonrabbit, Flush) could also have claims up their sleeves that protect them. Maybe worth bringing up Blarg possibly being a godfather? He's a lightning rod, predicted a cop claim in this game and felt the need to claim miller unprovoked in Love Boat. Speak up if you doubt my cop read of Stanley. Would really suck to kill a blendy ordinary. ---------------- A mass claim is probably imminent so fake claims? I have no idea what is least likely to be counterclaimed. Maybe mostly ordinary? Seems to be a lot of them in this game. Maybe gryvan could claim mayor? He can pretend to save it for the lylo the problem with mayor is that i don't have an override ability. my ability states I have to vote on someone else before I can use my ability on the person that is about to be 1 vote away from turbo. So the claim of a mayor role but doesn't act like a mayor role would definitely get me questioned to the brim the next day @_@...
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Post by gryvan on Jun 30, 2016 15:45:54 GMT -8
Yeah and kark definitely is BSing even if he is saying it. I'm just gonna mention the batcomputer half the time lol
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Post by Ty4on on Jun 30, 2016 15:52:43 GMT -8
We need three mislynches and three successful NKs to win. Who are those three? Panda and Trigger seem like obvious ones right now, but if Stanley is cop he cleared Star and Blarg and there's no obvious third target. The others (melonrabbit, Flush) could also have claims up their sleeves that protect them. Maybe worth bringing up Blarg possibly being a godfather? He's a lightning rod, predicted a cop claim in this game and felt the need to claim miller unprovoked in Love Boat. Speak up if you doubt my cop read of Stanley. Would really suck to kill a blendy ordinary. ---------------- A mass claim is probably imminent so fake claims? I have no idea what is least likely to be counterclaimed. Maybe mostly ordinary? Seems to be a lot of them in this game. Maybe gryvan could claim mayor? He can pretend to save it for the lylo the problem with mayor is that i don't have an override ability. my ability states I have to vote on someone else before I can use my ability on the person that is about to be 1 vote away from turbo. So the claim of a mayor role but doesn't act like a mayor role would definitely get me questioned to the brim the next day @_@... You can't use it because you're saving it for lylo
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Post by gryvan on Jun 30, 2016 17:24:16 GMT -8
man this is gonna be harder than I though after kark replaced darryl >_>...
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Post by Ty4on on Jul 1, 2016 1:29:47 GMT -8
man this is gonna be harder than I though after kark replaced darryl >_>... They have to lynch four scum, we need three mislynches. We're still ahead.
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Post by ultron87 on Jul 1, 2016 5:14:29 GMT -8
If Kark claims Dani Phantom, which we know is a lie since it is one of our safe claims, I'll counterclaim.
Was thinking I could do something like as passive ability of "will report role as Danny Phantom if investigated"? This would suggest the presence of a scum role cop, which doesn't exist, but it's not like anyone will be like "No! There's no scum role cop!"
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Post by ultron87 on Jul 1, 2016 5:40:47 GMT -8
The Godfather role comes through! Lol.
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Post by Ty4on on Jul 1, 2016 5:46:32 GMT -8
That's amazing. Stanley flipping ordinary would be a big blow to us.
Strongman Panda tonight?
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Post by ultron87 on Jul 1, 2016 5:58:33 GMT -8
The risk is that if Rats switches I think that defeats our strongman still. Since it wouldn't be "blocking" the kill, just moving it.
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Post by gryvan on Jul 1, 2016 5:58:33 GMT -8
welp there it is.gif
panda is the cop it looks like although...Tucker is one of Danny's closest's friends so I assumed he'd be an enabler too...maybe it has to do with some romantic relationship with Danny...could be valerie
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Post by Ty4on on Jul 1, 2016 6:01:56 GMT -8
The risk is that if Rats switches I think that defeats our strongman still. Since it wouldn't be "blocking" the kill, just moving it. Ofc... :/ Do we use our last strongman on Rats or hope the doctor chooses Panda?
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Post by ultron87 on Jul 1, 2016 6:07:45 GMT -8
With this we need to avoid Ty4on being lynched as much as possible. Having a cop confirming that you're town is so huge.
Either we get Panda lynched to "confirm" his results or sow additional doubt on Karkador (who's flip I still believe will suggest he was lying, even though he is town). Or maybe we maneuver back to Blarg?
Or I'm sure some random person will get voted on by 7 people in the last hour again.
Well "we" don't do anything. Because we don't want to act in concert more, especially after three of us were on Blarg yesterday at end of day.
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Post by Ty4on on Jul 1, 2016 6:21:56 GMT -8
Town lynching Panda would be sooooo good. We gotta be careful though.
We don't have a clear path to NKing him so I think it's worth bringing up the virtues of a Panda lynch
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Post by Ty4on on Jul 1, 2016 6:23:30 GMT -8
The rational thing for town is to wait. Panda can't reply right now and if he's cop he's a likely NK target. I don't wanna post that though
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Post by ultron87 on Jul 1, 2016 6:30:38 GMT -8
Yeah you're right. I don't think we can make that argument, at this stage of the game, without being ridiculously suspicious.
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Post by Ty4on on Jul 1, 2016 6:33:34 GMT -8
Do you guys think it would be a bad idea for someone (maybe ultron? possibly me as well) to post something like:
Or maybe something more direct, I just really like questions. Is suggesting a Panda lynch a bad idea?
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Post by Ty4on on Jul 1, 2016 6:35:17 GMT -8
Yeah you're right. I don't think we can make that argument, at this stage of the game, without being ridiculously suspicious. The waiting thing? I don't wanna post it because it'd help town too much
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Post by ultron87 on Jul 1, 2016 6:38:06 GMT -8
I mean the suggestion of lynching Panda. Cops die naturally without town having to do anything. If they last real long they might get lynched, but later in the game where their flip will clear a large portion of remaining town and remove the possibility of a fake claiming cop.
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Post by gryvan on Jul 1, 2016 6:42:53 GMT -8
Yeah i agree if rats does switch...strongman would be useless against panda...
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