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Post by Flush on May 10, 2016 13:40:25 GMT -8
If it wasn't for me and Zipped I'd say that this game was Heist 2 in disguise.
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Post by Gorlak on May 11, 2016 5:50:08 GMT -8
Sophia: "Unless I'm missing something, "scum under almost no suspicion" would narrow it down to Crimson, Royal, and Stanley? "
FEP: "I'm including you, Gorlak, Kawl in that group as well. I think our only likely targets today are Flame, Gryvan, or myself since people are getting uncomfortable."
Crimson, Stanley - Sophia, Kawl, the latter could've been added by FEP to widen the targetzone, they both have some suspicion on them, Sophia more so than Kawl. I still believe Sophia to be vanilla.
Crimson, Stanley, Kawl. Gut feeling tells me Kawl is some kind of PR.
Both Kawl and Crimson want to hear what FEP has to say.
Crimson: "Since FEP has backed off, that whole exchange seems counterproductive. I don't see any reason to go further into it than that. "
After the claim
crimson: " Role block on Gorlak I would assume to be scum or jailer. But could be either. And that's assuming he was role blocked at all. " - that's a little wink at being doc (but he was doc the game before?)
Whoever the visitor was, FEP surely watches him tonight.
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Post by Flush on May 11, 2016 12:54:51 GMT -8
The other question is: Is one of us going to get lynched this day? I'd say "probably not" and unless you have a strongly differing opinion I'm for giving the banana to our kill target again.
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Post by Sorian on May 11, 2016 13:19:20 GMT -8
Need commands about 23 hours from this post at the latest.
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Post by Gorlak on May 11, 2016 23:21:26 GMT -8
Yeah, I'd say probably not as well. We could also fuck with everyone and give our Banana to someone.
My guess is FEP is protected tonight and he watches whoever targeted me N2. FEP could be out of shots as well. My feeling says Stanley is far too quiet and uninterested to have a PR. We could still kill him though. As I said before my deduction skills don't seem to be the best in mafia games.
I'm 50/50 on Kawl/crimson with a 50% chance of being discovered. So... Stanley probably is the safer choice? (but he could also be watched). If you think we should try FEP, we can also do that. Your opinion?
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Post by Flush on May 12, 2016 1:27:39 GMT -8
You know what happened the last time we just gave someone the banana... That being said, if we give it to one of the people I don't see getting lynched (Like Stanley or FEP) we could get away with it. I think FEP is a likely doctor target. My kill choice would be either Crimson or Stanley.
So my proposal is we choose one of the following:
Kill Crimson Banana Stanley (not the other way round since Crimson has a stray chance of getting lynched)
Kill Crimson/Stanley Banana on killed
Kill Crimson/Stanley Banana FEP
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Post by Gorlak on May 12, 2016 1:44:29 GMT -8
Thinking about it, what's the benefit of giving out a banana?
Creating some discussion about the claus? Seems unnecessary?
It could out you as the banana guy if the target is watched and generate some more trust? You'd have to argue why Sophia got it N1?
Hmm, difficult.
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Drawback: Somebody can't get lynched.
So let's give it to our kill target. If he survives, you can still claim banana guy in case of FEP watching. Hell, you might get away with being caught redhanded and saying you are banana man if done right.
Stanley or Crimson?
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Post by Gorlak on May 12, 2016 5:08:13 GMT -8
Bwah, I can't decide ~ random.org to the rescue. I rolled two times, both times with Stanley as a result... so
Sorian ~ Attention
Banana nomnomnom: CrimsonFist
Kill: CrimsonFist
Both actions will be performed by Royal_Flush.
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Flush I'm okay with any changes you want to make (even in case you want me to do the kill), just wanted to make sure we have actions written down.
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Post by Sorian on May 12, 2016 5:12:58 GMT -8
Bwah, I can't decide ~ random.org to the rescue. I rolled two times, both times with Stanley as a result... so Sorian ~ AttentionBanana nomnomnom: CrimsonFist Kill: CrimsonFist Both actions will be performed by Royal_Flush. --- Flush I'm okay with any changes you want to make (even in case you want me to do the kill), just wanted to make sure we have actions written down. Actions Received, let me know if there is a change. |
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Post by Flush on May 12, 2016 9:24:40 GMT -8
ok, let's do it that way.
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Post by Gorlak on May 12, 2016 9:40:09 GMT -8
Early Day start confirmed! Go Sore Ryan GO
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Post by Sorian on May 12, 2016 11:57:45 GMT -8
Early Day start confirmed! Go Sore Ryan GO Nah  |
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Post by Flush on May 12, 2016 13:06:13 GMT -8
  RNGesus tried to save us |
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Post by Flush on May 12, 2016 13:06:55 GMT -8
Upside is, it doesn't change the clock afaik
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Post by Sorian on May 12, 2016 13:08:00 GMT -8
RNGesus tried to save us As I'm sure you know, having all of the answers always leads to hilarity when you are watching scum decide who to kill |
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Post by Gorlak on May 12, 2016 13:12:27 GMT -8
That's one swingy role
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Post by Flush on May 12, 2016 13:34:21 GMT -8
Kawl's post made me calculate the following fun-fact: If we were to choose our lynch completely at random, Town had a 53% chance of hitting at least one Scum within the next two lynches.
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Post by Flush on May 12, 2016 13:38:03 GMT -8
oh, btw: If this mass claim proposal goes through, should I claim Banana guy? As Neutral? As Town? I don't have a compelling narrative for not acting or choosing the killed target. I mean, I could say I was Neutral with the objective to redirect two lynches, but why would I have chosen Sophia then? Also it's our second Neutral so they might not buy this. As a Town role I don't even see how this is good as it just causes confusion and fuckery.
E: Oh wait, I can't claim banana guy. Unless I claim banana gal (The flavor Sophia received mentioned a hot lady). But if I do, they might figure the Ladies' night thing out. Bad idea.
Sleepwalker?
Doctor?
Vanilla is bad, someone might have seen me move.
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Post by Gorlak on May 12, 2016 13:39:35 GMT -8
If we both survive today, we can give the banana to one of us and have a pretty good shot at winning.
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Post by Flush on May 12, 2016 13:41:40 GMT -8
Anyway, going to bed now. See you tomorrow afternoon.
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Post by Gorlak on May 12, 2016 13:42:59 GMT -8
I'm pro mass claim. I don't know, maybe wait for fep to chime in and see if he saw you giving out one banana.
banana guy, making town lynchproof. x-shot. used on sophia n1 because ...?
fake-edit: good call on the flavour shizzle. hm, I guess I muss drüber schlafen.
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Post by Gorlak on May 13, 2016 0:51:26 GMT -8
I'll go ahead and claim ordinary.
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Post by Gorlak on May 13, 2016 1:24:28 GMT -8
Hmmm... maybe I should've supported FEP? Lynching Kawl and no lynch would be good for us, because I doubt you'll get lynched and we could save me with a banana that day.
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Post by Flush on May 13, 2016 3:44:35 GMT -8
*Opens browser* *looks at spreadsheet* "No Lynch: Kawl_USC" Wut? This is going to be an interesting read...
No lynch isn't good. It would put us to 3-2 on D5, not 2-2.
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Post by Gorlak on May 13, 2016 4:20:57 GMT -8
*Opens browser* *looks at spreadsheet* "No Lynch: Kawl_USC" Wut? This is going to be an interesting read... No lynch isn't good. It would put us to 3-2 on D5, not 2-2. Heh :) But think again. Lylo on D5 isn't the worst? This is a no brainer. They lynch kawl and no lynch. Than we are directly at lylo without us even being in danger of being lynched before. Let's say they want to lynch me D5, but I got a banana the night before and fep is in second place -> game over. (well, if the banana has the same effect on us as on sophia) You are under no suspicion thus far. Of course things can go wrong, maybe there is even a roleblocker among town, but this ain't the worst case for us. I prefer fep's plan of kawl+nolynch for us :) |
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Post by Flush on May 13, 2016 4:46:24 GMT -8
Fuck me, I'm a physicist, I can't do this simple math stuff...
So right now we're at 5-2
Lynch Kawl 4-2
No NK, No Lynch 4-2
NK 3-2
Lynch anybody but us Win
k
Other scenario:
Lynch Town 4-2
No NK 4-2
Lynch Town 3-2
NK Win
Seems like it doesn't make the slightest difference except the additional discussion on D6.
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Post by Flush on May 13, 2016 5:26:15 GMT -8
I also still need a moving claim in case someone knows I've been moving. How scummy is Sleepwalker in the current Meta? On the other hand I open myself to be exposed by FEP unless I tell the truth about my targets and what kind of coincidence would that be? First night to whoever received the banana then to the dead one on N3? (N2 I can claim whatever because I know FEP watched you)
Maybe I also claim something non-moving? Would somebody have called me out by now if they'd have seen me?
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Post by Flush on May 13, 2016 6:31:50 GMT -8
So how does this work? If one of us is forced to do something terribly sketchy today to save the other, do we still win?
It would be 4-2 tomorrow. Assume I'm the one with the banana then. We can both vote for the same person, putting them on 2. That means Town needs 3 votes to vote me out and therefore you can't be the one with the second most votes. So it comes down to a 50-50 chance of weather they decide to lynch the one with the banana or without... Interesting.
E: Would bleeder (dies the night after being NKd) or name-to-be-developed (kills whoever kills me or had the hammervote) be okay claims? I kind of don't want to claim Ordinary if you do and these roles somehow have the vote-shenanigans-theme incorporated. On the other hand, sleepwalker had the Watcher/Tracker theme going, but again, I'd need good targets.
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Post by Flush on May 13, 2016 6:55:25 GMT -8
Fuck, shit is getting tense.
My fakeclaim will be Cabot. Something something drunk. Works for either the bleeder (doesn't want to leave) and the sleepwalker (so drunk he just wanders around)
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Post by Flush on May 13, 2016 6:56:37 GMT -8
What is he doing anyway? I didn't visit you N2, lol...
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