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Post by flameac on Apr 7, 2016 21:21:57 GMT -8
Thanks Ouro.
Do you not mean what I thought you did? I thought you were talking about how scum generally tries to stay out of the spotlight which is certainly not true.
I think that one only need look at players like Sorian or Coppanuva who throw around their vote, usually, all the time, especially on Day 1. Sometimes they are town, others not, but yet they vote a lot and change it a bunch and it's not inherently scummy. They use it as a pressure tool to try and push a person a little bit before moving onto another target. I don't disagree with your new statement that the behavior doesn't attract attention, I just don't think that, by itself, it is suspicious.
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Post by flameac on Apr 7, 2016 21:28:05 GMT -8
Hey Ouro! You didn't answer my question.  To SkyOdin, aren't you somewhat worried that Salva could be PR, I don't want to speculate on his role or whatever, but his supposed extra knowledge lends credence to that idea. That's why I want to save him for Day 2 at least. I agree that the votes are probably OMGUSs, but I think it could be important later. |
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Post by Ourobolus on Apr 7, 2016 21:28:45 GMT -8
I don't understand the question. Are you asking me?
In general, no, at the outset of D1 I don't see a problem with random votes, because there is literally nothing to go on. If anything I would look back at the people who piped up earliest and voted in the case that they voted for their partner with the full intent of moving that vote by the end of the day.
Sky wanting to vote for Salva doesn't help my case for him though. I think Salva might be a PR, so if I think Sky is scum then it makes sense. (Yes, again, for the millionth time, it's D1, so I could totally be off-base, but there's not much to go off of).
Other than those two, Bronx and Stanley are on my next shitlist.
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Post by flameac on Apr 7, 2016 21:34:14 GMT -8
I don't understand the question. Are you asking me? In general, no, at the outset of D1 I don't see a problem with random votes, because there is literally nothing to go on. If anything I would look back at the people who piped up earliest and voted in the case that they voted for their partner with the full intent of moving that vote by the end of the day.
Sky wanting to vote for Salva doesn't help my case for him though. I think Salva might be a PR, so if I think Sky is scum then it makes sense. (Yes, again, for the millionth time, it's D1, so I could totally be off-base, but there's not much to go off of). Other than those two, Bronx and Stanley are on my next shitlist. Yes I'm asking you.  I'm just asking do you think the people counter voting each other are suspicious, I don't know if its enough to lynch on or anything, but it's notable enough that I want to get a bunch of people's opinions. The bolded is what I'm getting at, I could see a world in which scum votes each other or something and tries to distance themselves from their partner as much as possible. This is my last post for the night, I think I might be around for right at the end of the day, maybe a bit earlier. |
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Post by skyodin on Apr 7, 2016 21:38:54 GMT -8
Hey Ouro! You didn't answer my question. To SkyOdin, aren't you somewhat worried that Salva could be PR, I don't want to speculate on his role or whatever, but his supposed extra knowledge lends credence to that idea. That's why I want to save him for Day 2 at least. I agree that the votes are probably OMGUSs, but I think it could be important later. I don't think he actually is a power role, or that he does have special knowledge. He himself has denied that he does, and has claimed that it was a mistake on his part, since he didn't see the Vanilla Townie on the matrix. Moreover, I think that making a soft-claim like that would be unnecessarily reckless, and a little suspicious in of itself. There are one or two scenarios I can imagine where he is a town power-role, but the statistical odds feel low. Generally, I think SalvaPot has mostly been acting scummy, and the possibility that he might have a town power role seems low enough to not outweigh the scummy behavior. However, it appears that more of us agree on Bronx being scummy than anything else right now. |
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Post by skyodin on Apr 7, 2016 21:42:35 GMT -8
Incidentally, I think that the person who has been most strongly pushing the idea that SalvaPot is a PR has been Ourobolus. He was the one who first pointed out that "mistake" SalvaPot made about the number of power roles in the game, and has been the one bringing up the possibility of Salva being a power role the most.
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Post by stanleypalmtree on Apr 7, 2016 21:46:28 GMT -8
yeah Flame, we were thinking of pretty differant behaviours, thanks for clearing that up.
and about your counter voting suspicion, personally i wouldn't put any real weight on the idea, it seems like they all happen really early in the game when nobody had litterally anything to go with, at which point its kind of a 'why not' situation (and there is a certain statisfaction to an omgus vote).
if it keeps happening even as more ligitimate suspicions crop up, then we should look a lot closer at them.
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Post by SalvaPot on Apr 7, 2016 22:12:49 GMT -8
I just want to add that I didn't meant to soft-claim with the 2/9 remark and that was a post out of my ignorance of how the game worked.
I like sky's current output of post, and as I said at the very beginning when Ouro put his vote on him, I don't feel him inherently scummy. To me he was just trying to help town and get ideas out there, not role fishing or trying to setup himself as town.
My vote right now is on stanley because I still feel his vote is weightless and has done pretty much nothing to follow up on it, but that may be bronx fault, since he has not responded yet.
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Post by nin1000 on Apr 7, 2016 22:23:54 GMT -8
Incidentally, I think that the person who has been most strongly pushing the idea that SalvaPot is a PR has been Ourobolus. He was the one who first pointed out that "mistake" SalvaPot made about the number of power roles in the game, and has been the one bringing up the possibility of Salva being a power role the most. Nice point. Ouro has and still is the only one bringing that up. Good morning btw |
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Post by SalvaPot on Apr 7, 2016 22:29:16 GMT -8
Incidentally, I think that the person who has been most strongly pushing the idea that SalvaPot is a PR has been Ourobolus. He was the one who first pointed out that "mistake" SalvaPot made about the number of power roles in the game, and has been the one bringing up the possibility of Salva being a power role the most. Nice point. Ouro has and still is the only one bringing that up. Good morning btw I'm about to go to sleep... Anyway, yeah Ouro has been pushing this narrative, but eh, I am ok with it. It will keep me alive another day, and I doubt scum is going to be silly enough to waste their kill on me =P, because that would put Ouro in a weird spot. As long as he is not lynching me I am ok with his attitude, and I don't feel he is been scummy, he is just trying to scum hunt. |
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Post by Ourobolus on Apr 7, 2016 22:30:47 GMT -8
Now that Salva has responded, he's dropped much further down my list.
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Post by nin1000 on Apr 7, 2016 22:36:29 GMT -8
I just want to add that I didn't meant to soft-claim with the 2/9 remark and that was a post out of my ignorance of how the game worked. I dont really want to push it but does that mean that you are vanilla Town ? I like sky's current output of post, and as I said at the very beginning when Ouro put his vote on him, I don't feel him inherently scummy. To me he was just trying to help town and get ideas out there, not role fishing or trying to setup himself as town. I agree on that part and thats why i will leave an eye on him. Keep your enemies close but your enemies closer is what my mom used to say. My vote right now is on stanley because I still feel his vote is weightless and has done pretty much nothing to follow up on it, but that may be bronx fault, since he has not responded yet. |
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Post by nin1000 on Apr 7, 2016 22:40:28 GMT -8
effed up the last part so i will quote it again sorry for that My vote right now is on stanley because I still feel his vote is weightless and has done pretty much nothing to follow up on it, but that may be bronx fault, since he has not responded yet. I would love to hear more from Bronx-Man as i know he can do it if he wants to |
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Post by SalvaPot on Apr 7, 2016 22:50:35 GMT -8
I just want to add that I didn't meant to soft-claim with the 2/9 remark and that was a post out of my ignorance of how the game worked. I dont really want to push it but does that mean that you are vanilla Town ? I am not claiming anything at all, as simple as that. And asking me if I am vanilla town is pretty much pushing it =P |
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Post by nin1000 on Apr 7, 2016 23:04:44 GMT -8
I dont really want to push it but does that mean that you are vanilla Town ? I am not claiming anything at all, as simple as that. And asking me if I am vanilla town is pretty much pushing it =P Ok, i think i am done, sorry if i pushed you over the edge mate. |
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Post by squidyj on Apr 8, 2016 0:25:49 GMT -8
vote: Bronx Man
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Post by Bronx-Man on Apr 8, 2016 4:55:01 GMT -8
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Post by nin1000 on Apr 8, 2016 5:33:32 GMT -8
I am inclined to agree, no real reason given. Just hopping onto the train. #Scumtell |
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Post by Kawl on Apr 8, 2016 5:35:06 GMT -8
FYI: Bronx is at 4 votes. Majority is five.
Will post full vote count in about an hour.
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Post by nin1000 on Apr 8, 2016 5:37:06 GMT -8
 Some of you really need to step up your game |
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Post by Ourobolus on Apr 8, 2016 5:37:28 GMT -8
I could hammer, but I don't really want to. Sure, Bronx has been a non-entity, but...I don't know. It's D1 so he could be damn near anything.
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Post by nin1000 on Apr 8, 2016 5:44:48 GMT -8
going to
vote: Unvote
just to use the full 7 hours
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Post by Ourobolus on Apr 8, 2016 6:15:22 GMT -8
So why are we choosing Bronx? Just inactivity and nothing really to contribute? Cause it seems pretty random to me.
Bronx, you have anything to add?
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Post by SalvaPot on Apr 8, 2016 6:18:35 GMT -8
I have noticed squid has a tendency of locking-in targets and never letting go once he makes his mind. Why the vote on bronx, squid?
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Post by stanleypalmtree on Apr 8, 2016 6:33:04 GMT -8
my reason for voting Bronx was his absurdly aggressive take on nin , it just read like complete bs and a desperate attempt drive towns suspicions toward him, thankfully no-one listened.
and i really hope he does bother to chime in on this before the days end, his silence has been very unhelpful.
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Post by nin1000 on Apr 8, 2016 6:39:55 GMT -8
my reason for voting Bronx was his absurdly aggressive take on nin , it just read like complete bs and a desperate attempt drive towns suspicions toward him, thankfully no-one listened. and i really hope he does bother to chime in on this before the days end, his silence has been very unhelpful. thats why i kept my vote on him and will later put it back. Since i dont want the day end prematurerly i unvoted but rest assured its going back onto him if nothing else comes around. like squid or Terra. No need for that silent play |
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Post by Terrabyte20xx on Apr 8, 2016 6:51:13 GMT -8
Yo, I don't know if going after Bronx is the best idea. It just feels too easy.
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Post by Kawl on Apr 8, 2016 7:06:52 GMT -8
Vote CountSkyOdin-1Ouro Ouro-1Terrabyte SkyOdinNin1000-0SkyOdin
SquidyjFlameAC-1Bronx-Man SalvaPot-0SquidyJ-0Nin1000Terrabyte-0StanleyPalmtreeStanleyPalmtree-1SalvaPot Bronx Man-3FlameAC Nin1000StanleyPalmtree SquidyJ Votes needed for Majority: 5
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Post by Kawl on Apr 8, 2016 7:07:33 GMT -8
Let me know if there is a mistake there. I'm gonna nap for a bit. If any one hits majority day is over and cease posting game talk.
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Post by SalvaPot on Apr 8, 2016 7:16:14 GMT -8
Bronx seem to not care, so if he doesn't report in the next few hours I am ok with lynching him.
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I'm just asking do you think the people counter voting each other are suspicious, I don't know if its enough to lynch on or anything, but it's notable enough that I want to get a bunch of people's opinions.
