Burbeting
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Post by Burbeting on Apr 4, 2016 13:20:16 GMT -8
This is the Prisoners' Dilemma spectator thread. Hi, I'm totally a rabbit.
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Post by OceanicAir on Apr 4, 2016 14:14:46 GMT -8
Thanks burb, this should be interesting.
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Post by Roytheone on Apr 4, 2016 14:27:15 GMT -8
This is the Prisoners' Dilemma spectator thread. Hi, I'm totally a rabbit. Suuuuuuure you are, Suuuuuuure. 
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Post by Bowlie on Apr 4, 2016 14:28:21 GMT -8
watch monokuma coming out of that rabbit costume.
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Post by Burbeting on Apr 4, 2016 14:36:54 GMT -8
What is the spoiler policy people wish for here?
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Post by Kawl on Apr 4, 2016 14:41:42 GMT -8
I'll defer to the masses. I'm fine going blind and speculating, or knowing all and lording over the poor townies.
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Post by eltopodelgaf on Apr 4, 2016 14:42:03 GMT -8
Thanks for access, Burb.
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Post by Bowlie on Apr 4, 2016 14:46:26 GMT -8
I don't mind spoilers, Burbs.
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Post by OceanicAir on Apr 4, 2016 14:47:24 GMT -8
I'd like to at least wait a day phase or two before the spoiling begins (although if it never happens that's OK too)
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Post by Blargonaut on Apr 4, 2016 14:47:59 GMT -8
 alright, I too am a spectator!  pls appreciate this rare appearance that I have so generously graced you all with my presence here I hope to live up to Sophia's excellent commentary on my own play yes I do lurk spectator threads after games
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Post by Blargonaut on Apr 4, 2016 14:50:06 GMT -8
ugh these custom game rules
so complicated
uggghhhhhhhh
uggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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Post by Sophia on Apr 4, 2016 14:54:18 GMT -8
I hope to live up to Sophia's excellent commentary on my own play 
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Post by Blargonaut on Apr 4, 2016 15:14:01 GMT -8
...alright, I think I understand now not that I ever didn't understand, I mean ¬_¬ so this is the 1st round of minigames, I see... BLARG'S CHOICE PREDICTIONS! ROUND 1 CURRENT PAIRINGS LaunchpadMcQ & Terrabytevs. CrimsonFistnin1000 & RobotNinjaHornetsvs. ScraftyDevilKalor & Sorianvs. RetroMG---  Launch -> will choose ALLY Terra -> will choose BETRAY Crimson -> will choose ALLY nin -> will choose ALLY RNH -> will choose ALLY Scrafty -> will choose ALLY Kalor -> will choose ALLY Sorian -> will choose BETRAY Retro -> will choose BETRAY ...that is, if I'm understand these mechanics right >_>
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Post by Splinter on Apr 4, 2016 15:32:24 GMT -8
No idea how this is going to go, will be interesting to watch
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Post by nukedeggs on Apr 4, 2016 15:36:53 GMT -8
Hey all! I'm super excited to spectate this game. I have a question tho - if you're scum, would you just act really town because your only win condition is to have at least one scum on the list? Actually, what does 'acting town' mean anyway? There's no flips or anything...
Hmm, if every scum was to claim town, then the neutrals could mess things up because if they claim neutral or something then town knows that they can trust the two neutrals, so the margin for error is a lot less. Though when it comes to the neutrals claiming, they know it'll benefit town if they both claim, but it wouldn't be so great for them because Town is incentivized to bring both neutrals onboard to help them win, and neutrals don't want that...
However, scum can have two scum claim neutral, and one scum claim town, which'll mess that up because Town wouldn't know which neutral to trust. But then if that's the case Town could just decide to choose escapees out of the remaining Town group, which has only one scum in it, so the odds of scum winning wouldn't be that great in that case either, and the neutrals would be pretty screwed too. So...maybe it'll just be better if scum all claim town?
Though if you're town, you don't trust anyone else, so you'll want to get yourself on the escapee list since you know you're town. I guess if you're town, you'll want to betray moreso than the average scum will?
Man this game is weird. I don't even know how betrayal will work.
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Post by Blargonaut on Apr 4, 2016 15:56:01 GMT -8
ROUND 1
Launch -> will choose ALLY... oh, Launch will pretend to be a slimy flip-flopper struggling against the mainstream, but in the end he'll totes conform Terra -> will choose BETRAY... Terra's in it for the glory Crimson -> will choose ALLY... Crimson seems solid and dependable and can be relied on to do the right thing
nin -> will choose ALLY... After running WWE, he's just here to relax, enjoy a nice, slow-paced vacation game in the comfort of others taking the reins of control for a change RNH -> will choose ALLY... RNH is here to atone for his terrible, terrible WWE sins, whether he realizes it or not Scrafty -> will choose ALLY... Scrafty's here for the long game and she's determined to survive and win, especially after the trouble in WWE. This time, her instincts will lead her to victory
Kalor -> will choose ALLY... Even though Kalor is paired with Sorian this round, the drama between this trio will end up as a subtle fight between Sorian and Retro for Kalor's mindshare, and Kalor will defiantly resist them both yet in relative silence Sorian -> will choose BETRAY... Sorian will try to cross-examine both Kalor and Retro in the attempt to influence them to his will, but he will succumb to terrible, terrible doubt in the critical moment and do the opposite of whatever he was hinting to them Retro -> will choose BETRAY... Retro doesn't trust Sorian at all, but will inadvertently end up making the same choice that Sorian does out of sheer random chance
also, carrots are awful unless they're in carrot cake
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Post by Blargonaut on Apr 4, 2016 16:13:02 GMT -8
and the dialogues have started
Launch starting strong with the offense, Scrafty setting up her defenses
Terra pushing for the ALLY choice, obvious he's gonna do the opposite and BETRAY in the end, just like I'm sayin' ¬_¬
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Post by nukedeggs on Apr 4, 2016 16:24:43 GMT -8
Looks rough for Scrafty. It looks like she's setting up to Betray, so I feel like between Nin and RNH one of them will pick Betray, though I suppose things can change. Her most recent post is a little better in regards to the 'maybe she will ally' department. Still, I'm not sure what info she can gain with this kind of play from the reveal, because if it flips Betray on the Nin&RNH side it'll be easy for people to point at her early-game behavior.
Also, her most recent post:
reads as scummy to me. If you're town, I feel like you'd know that you don't need to escape, but it'll be really hard to win without you on the escapees list since there's only 4 town and 3 spots, and this kind of play doesn't make sense for a neutral, who needs to escape. I feel like scum are the ones who will be most comfortable sitting back because they only need one of their number on the list to win.
Also yeah I agree, Terra's 'Come on Scrafty, have some faith in humanity!' and 'Ally is the obvious choice' posts feel like he's going to betray lmao.
Edit: OK after some time Scrafty is pretty town. Generating discussion and seems aggressive and willing to put herself out there. I completely misread her opening posts.
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Post by cabot on Apr 5, 2016 5:38:48 GMT -8
good day, friendos.
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Post by Kawl on Apr 6, 2016 8:18:03 GMT -8
Predicting 2 trios ally all around and one trio has one side ally and one side betray
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Post by Burbeting on Apr 6, 2016 9:07:32 GMT -8
Nope. Everyone allied.
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Post by Kawl on Apr 6, 2016 9:12:55 GMT -8
Boooooo. Some people were talking a big game just to be a bunch of chickens.
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Post by Blargonaut on Apr 7, 2016 1:18:13 GMT -8
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Post by nukedeggs on Apr 7, 2016 4:19:11 GMT -8
Woot nice post RNH! I think betraying should definitely be de-stigmatized, or at least, should not be seen as a 'bad' or 'scummy' thing to do. It is much more of a Town/Neutral weapon than a scum weapon imo. Currently getting scummy feelings from Terra (not sure if it's because of old WWE war scars, but something about the way he's acting, the negative way he talks about betraying, and...again...his lack of contributions lmao) and Launchpad.
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Post by cabot on Apr 7, 2016 4:25:39 GMT -8
I can't read Terra at all. He could have either been scum or town to me in WWE, and most other games I've watched/played with him in.
He's a true blind spot.
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Post by Kawl on Apr 7, 2016 9:06:48 GMT -8
One party allies all around, one betrays on both sides, one splits ally and betray.
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Post by Burbeting on Apr 7, 2016 9:17:59 GMT -8
Already 5 commands in.
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Post by Burbeting on Apr 7, 2016 11:07:54 GMT -8
7 Commands in.
There are both decisions in there so far.
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Post by Burbeting on Apr 8, 2016 0:27:04 GMT -8
In Decision Phase 2, there were one ally, and eight betrays.
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Post by Splinter on Apr 8, 2016 0:52:23 GMT -8
Lol, somewhat inevitable. Who allied?
Also how do you think the game is going Burb? Is this roughly how you thought the start would play out? Any bad plays happening?
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