Night 2 Mission Chat
Feb 29, 2016 11:51:55 GMT -8
Post by Atheon on Feb 29, 2016 11:51:55 GMT -8
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Ourobolus
08-09-2015
02:09 PM ET (US)
Moderator here:
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1) This chat is strictly between players on the mission. Please do not share this link, nor copy/paste posts from here anywhere else.
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Mazre
08-13-2015
05:15 PM ET (US)
Welp, that ones probably on me.
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Darryl
08-13-2015
05:19 PM ET (US)
Anyways, I have to reveal this to Ezekel now, too. I'm Lana Kane, the ISIS investigator.
Mazre here's a dog whistle in case you need it, since you're verified ISIS. It's the best I could do~
www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p...4837&postcount=1873
www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p...6818&postcount=1381
Obviously I'm going to investigate Ezekel tonight, but due to Palmer's suggestion that Ezekel get investigated yet not following through on helping me get onto the mission safely, I have to accept that both Arkos and Palmer may have been KGB moles.
On a side note, it's very good for town if they aren't moles. Because of being so suspicious, I might actually last longer into the game.
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EzekelRAGE
08-13-2015
05:19 PM ET (US)
Sup all
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Mazre
08-13-2015
05:23 PM ET (US)
Was wondering about that Darryl, couldn't decide if your dog whistle was clearing me or setting me up. The tone of the message was positive but the bolded part taken by itself was negative.
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Darryl
08-13-2015
05:24 PM ET (US)
No, the bolded part was just meant to be natural looking based on how people would read my posts. The overall tone of the read was supposed to be hinting at your alignment.
Obviously if I thought you were KGB I'd have come out and said 'Hey everyone, I'm Lana Kane', since the mafia would already have known. There would have been no point in keeping it a secret.
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Mazre
08-13-2015
05:26 PM ET (US)
Yeah, that's ultimately what I settled on, hence jumping off Seath and onto Zubz in the hopes others would follow. Also welcome Zeke.
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Darryl
08-13-2015
05:27 PM ET (US)
I'm really just worried that Palmer is the "honeypot", and was leading into framing both me & Mazre. So I had to say something last minute to back up that hint.
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Darryl
08-13-2015
05:28 PM ET (US)
Ya whats up zeke, if you're mafia scum you've made a terrible mistake
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palmer_v1
08-13-2015
05:29 PM ET (US)
@darryl
You were supposed to volunteer right away! I still don't trust you 100% until something verifiable happens though. I DID try to defend you a bit without making it super obvious that I knew something about you. I can't just pretend you're NOT difficult to work with or people would make connections.
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palmer_v1
08-13-2015
05:31 PM ET (US)
Mazre /Darryl. I took his bolded sentence to be clearing you, but again, I had already made comments towards you previously, so I cant stop entirely without it being a potential tell for our mission activity.
I think we should go with a similar story again, btw. We don't really trust each other, nothin was accomplished, tried to figure out HP for ER.
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Darryl
08-13-2015
05:33 PM ET (US)
Yea, I noticed. In the end it all worked out. I wanted to be suspicious anyways, otherwise mafia won't keep me around. I just had a doubt on you and Arkos so I had to put something out there, the quick bandwagon against me was either a desperate attempt by mafia to find someone to vote on or they could have known.
I didn't want to volunteer right away because I wanted to investigate someone from the general mission, until Eze coming out suddenly made it all worthwhile.
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Mazre
08-13-2015
05:38 PM ET (US)
Guess it's a good thing I've also made a habit of not having strong reactions to accusations so far as well =D
So moving forward, assuming that ER checks out, it seems we should probably cycle Cabbeh and/or Arkos in here with ER and myself or Palmer. We may even be able to sell that directly without resorting to blitzing.
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palmer_v1
08-13-2015
05:38 PM ET (US)
Mazre /Darryl again: Do you want to reveal Mazre's character name and/or role if applicable?
I'll officially just claim mine, Ordinary Drone. You're welcome to investigate me or ER tonight, Darryl, but I feel fairly confident ER is telling the truth. Maybe not ALL of the truth, but I bet he really is Archer, and town aligned.
@er: Welcome! Darryl will let us know what he did tomorrow by posting a "read" on a few people saying if he thinks they're town or mafia, and he'll include a bold section to know that is who he actually investigated.
Is your claim accurate? I feel like you're bluffing a bit. My guess was that you're Archer, but the honeypot stuff was made up. I.e. you're only safe from ONE night kill, and the rest is a bluff to keep the Mafia from trying to NK you again.
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palmer_v1
08-13-2015
05:45 PM ET (US)
If you investigate me, I think we need you in here one more time with ER to investigate him. If you investigate ER tonight, we probably want you back in the general pool of players. I'll also probably stay out in that case so you can still target me if you want.
At some point, we should each post a list of the players and our quick thoughts on them.
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palmer_v1
08-13-2015
05:48 PM ET (US)
Triple post!
Ill be in and out of here for the next few hours if you guys need me to respond to anything further.
@er: Please make good use of this extra chat time if you're committed to hiding here the rest of the game! What kind of posting schedule are you on?
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Mazre
08-13-2015
05:55 PM ET (US)
Darryl said he gets alignment, p59 from night 1, guessing he doesn't get role names/details. I'm going to lay off any role information for now.
Zubz really was my strongest read so far, though I was overstating a bit in my vote post. I genuinely feel that Seath is just not a very talented player, that said he's definitely the kind of player that can cause harm even as town. Beyond that I'll have to do some homework and see who else sticks out. QB seems really quiet to me anecdotally but I don't recall where he stood in other games (and that's a weak basis all the same).
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palmer_v1
08-13-2015
05:58 PM ET (US)
Don't forget to hit Get Email again. Helps to post from phone that way.
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Darryl
08-13-2015
06:14 PM ET (US)
I read Zubz as mafia up until the very last bit. Until it was too far to rewind. Kinda drains my thoughts on Septimus Prime, who tried to buddy him at the end. Either way, this is yet another case of town vs town bandwagons.
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EzekelRAGE
08-13-2015
06:14 PM ET (US)
So we have got confirmation that Maz is town and Darryl is inves? If palm is also cleared I'll let everyone in on my thinking in regards to my roleclaim.
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Darryl
08-13-2015
06:16 PM ET (US)
There is no confirmation on me. We are flying in on pure FAITH. And I'm not saying who I am actually investigating until it happens, for obvious reasons.
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EzekelRAGE
08-13-2015
06:18 PM ET (US)
There is confirmation on Maz though?
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Darryl
08-13-2015
06:19 PM ET (US)
Yes, Maz is ISIS
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Darryl
08-13-2015
06:19 PM ET (US)
Well this is if you believe me in regards to my role claim, obviously. He's confirmed for me. I'm not going to waste an investigation on myself.
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Darryl
08-13-2015
06:22 PM ET (US)
There is no one that is gonna confirm me, you just have to see if you think I'm town. Eventually it'll be revealed. I'm not planning on making it to the end. I'm just trying to create as big of a net of people who can trust each other as I can before I go. And in all cases, you can absolutely trust Mazre assuming you are town. There is no case where you should push a day eviction on anyone I clear without pushing for me first.
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EzekelRAGE
08-13-2015
06:26 PM ET (US)
Would suck if there were two KGB in here :/.
Anyway, here it goes. I am Archer and I did bluff a little bit with my roleclaim. I don't have total NK immunity. The HP does exist so if she would've carried out the kill on me I would've died, but it was another that did it. I only had one bulletproof vest, good for one nonHP kill. So with the knowledge that any KGB could kill me whether HP or not, I decided to say I had full immunity from all except HP even though I didn't. In hopes this would deter KGB from sending ne1 except HP or going at me 2 nights in a row.
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EzekelRAGE
08-13-2015
06:31 PM ET (US)
palmer I can be here most of the time except for like 4am-11am cst. Other than that I can check it periodically.
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palmer_v1
08-13-2015
07:23 PM ET (US)
What exactly does it say about the Honeypot in your role pm? You can't directly quote it but you can paraphrase it.
Mazre
If you are a power role. IF. What reason would you have to not reveal it it to us?
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Mazre
08-13-2015
07:43 PM ET (US)
Healthy paranoia, I'm more or less 90% confident of everyone in here but it's nice to have something in the back pocket. Not sure if the currently withheld information could be used to any great effect in the worst case scenario, but once it's been said it can't be unsaid.
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palmer_v1
08-13-2015
08:04 PM ET (US)
So the main reason I'm curious is it would give me the ability to recognize somebody else falsely claiming your role. Otherwise, I'd have to just catch on somehow that you know they're lying. Now that i saw this though, maybe create another coded way to let us know that? Solves the problem without you needing to trust me completely.
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Mazre
08-13-2015
08:07 PM ET (US)
Okay, will add to my list of todo's for the night phase.
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Darryl
08-13-2015
09:07 PM ET (US)
That's a good idea
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EzekelRAGE
08-13-2015
09:33 PM ET (US)
palmer It just says my one weakness is the Honeypot in regards to me dying and still having my bp.
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Darryl
08-14-2015
05:09 AM ET (US)
The hardest part I have with the Archer thing is that Seath claimed his role is to kill Archer. Two people designed to kill Archer? Weird.
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palmer_v1
08-14-2015
10:45 AM ET (US)
I thought Seath's claim was completely fabricated?
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EzekelRAGE
08-14-2015
12:21 PM ET (US)
Yea, Seath said his role was fake. Also it would make sense he would say he had to vote me out since I described my role as NK immune.
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EzekelRAGE
08-15-2015
01:53 PM ET (US)
*tumbleweed*
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palmer_v1
08-15-2015
02:37 PM ET (US)
Not much to talk about this time, and it's the weekend.
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Darryl
08-16-2015
07:54 AM ET (US)
Well night gonna be ending. Not sure if there's a lot to talk about. I'm gonna try to stay in the general pool tomorrow so I can try to catch a scum. Probably someone who is just barely dodging being noticed by others. So, if given the chance make sure you say I'm suspicious (which you should be of me, anyways) so that mafia won't try to night evict me. Just don't let people get carried away with actually evicting me.
Also, if you guys sign up for a mission and the only new additions are like, Cabbeh, you can tell he/she. Just only people you're 95% sure of.
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Darryl
08-16-2015
07:55 AM ET (US)
Now let's watch El Topo's omega power leak mission chat to everyone
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Mazre
08-16-2015
12:48 PM ET (US)
Time completely got away from me this weekend. Anyways, signal for "That role is bullshit because it's mine" - I will quote and reply "Why do you want to make Crab cry?", this of course presumes that I have a power role to claim. As for reads I didn't really find time to go back through the thread so I'll just have to put together my normal reads for the group once we have the results for night 2 in. Still planning to sign up for night 3 chat.
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Mazre
08-16-2015
12:51 PM ET (US)
Also re: chat being exposed, I did have the same thought occur in regards to like a Pam/Cheryl role (they sneak onto a LOT of missions in the series), either that or someone planting a bug on a player (we are all spies after all) maybe to give read access to the forum for a limited time or when that player is there. We'll just have to see if something like that pops up.
Ourobolus
08-09-2015
02:09 PM ET (US)
Moderator here:
Ground rules for this chat:
1) This chat is strictly between players on the mission. Please do not share this link, nor copy/paste posts from here anywhere else.
2) Generally speaking: If you wouldn't do it in the public thread, don't do it here. Role claims and game speculation are allowed, but will not be confirmed by me here. If you have a question, it's probably better to PM me directly.
3) This forum will only stay open for this current night phase. Afterwards, no more posts will be allowed, but you may come back to look at the history.
4) This chat will close 30 minutes before the next day phase so I can get everything ready.
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Mazre
08-13-2015
05:15 PM ET (US)
Welp, that ones probably on me.
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Darryl
08-13-2015
05:19 PM ET (US)
Anyways, I have to reveal this to Ezekel now, too. I'm Lana Kane, the ISIS investigator.
Mazre here's a dog whistle in case you need it, since you're verified ISIS. It's the best I could do~
www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p...4837&postcount=1873
www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p...6818&postcount=1381
Obviously I'm going to investigate Ezekel tonight, but due to Palmer's suggestion that Ezekel get investigated yet not following through on helping me get onto the mission safely, I have to accept that both Arkos and Palmer may have been KGB moles.
On a side note, it's very good for town if they aren't moles. Because of being so suspicious, I might actually last longer into the game.
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EzekelRAGE
08-13-2015
05:19 PM ET (US)
Sup all
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Mazre
08-13-2015
05:23 PM ET (US)
Was wondering about that Darryl, couldn't decide if your dog whistle was clearing me or setting me up. The tone of the message was positive but the bolded part taken by itself was negative.
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Darryl
08-13-2015
05:24 PM ET (US)
No, the bolded part was just meant to be natural looking based on how people would read my posts. The overall tone of the read was supposed to be hinting at your alignment.
Obviously if I thought you were KGB I'd have come out and said 'Hey everyone, I'm Lana Kane', since the mafia would already have known. There would have been no point in keeping it a secret.
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Mazre
08-13-2015
05:26 PM ET (US)
Yeah, that's ultimately what I settled on, hence jumping off Seath and onto Zubz in the hopes others would follow. Also welcome Zeke.
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Darryl
08-13-2015
05:27 PM ET (US)
I'm really just worried that Palmer is the "honeypot", and was leading into framing both me & Mazre. So I had to say something last minute to back up that hint.
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Darryl
08-13-2015
05:28 PM ET (US)
Ya whats up zeke, if you're mafia scum you've made a terrible mistake
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palmer_v1
08-13-2015
05:29 PM ET (US)
@darryl
You were supposed to volunteer right away! I still don't trust you 100% until something verifiable happens though. I DID try to defend you a bit without making it super obvious that I knew something about you. I can't just pretend you're NOT difficult to work with or people would make connections.
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palmer_v1
08-13-2015
05:31 PM ET (US)
Mazre /Darryl. I took his bolded sentence to be clearing you, but again, I had already made comments towards you previously, so I cant stop entirely without it being a potential tell for our mission activity.
I think we should go with a similar story again, btw. We don't really trust each other, nothin was accomplished, tried to figure out HP for ER.
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Darryl
08-13-2015
05:33 PM ET (US)
Yea, I noticed. In the end it all worked out. I wanted to be suspicious anyways, otherwise mafia won't keep me around. I just had a doubt on you and Arkos so I had to put something out there, the quick bandwagon against me was either a desperate attempt by mafia to find someone to vote on or they could have known.
I didn't want to volunteer right away because I wanted to investigate someone from the general mission, until Eze coming out suddenly made it all worthwhile.
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Mazre
08-13-2015
05:38 PM ET (US)
Guess it's a good thing I've also made a habit of not having strong reactions to accusations so far as well =D
So moving forward, assuming that ER checks out, it seems we should probably cycle Cabbeh and/or Arkos in here with ER and myself or Palmer. We may even be able to sell that directly without resorting to blitzing.
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palmer_v1
08-13-2015
05:38 PM ET (US)
Mazre /Darryl again: Do you want to reveal Mazre's character name and/or role if applicable?
I'll officially just claim mine, Ordinary Drone. You're welcome to investigate me or ER tonight, Darryl, but I feel fairly confident ER is telling the truth. Maybe not ALL of the truth, but I bet he really is Archer, and town aligned.
@er: Welcome! Darryl will let us know what he did tomorrow by posting a "read" on a few people saying if he thinks they're town or mafia, and he'll include a bold section to know that is who he actually investigated.
Is your claim accurate? I feel like you're bluffing a bit. My guess was that you're Archer, but the honeypot stuff was made up. I.e. you're only safe from ONE night kill, and the rest is a bluff to keep the Mafia from trying to NK you again.
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palmer_v1
08-13-2015
05:45 PM ET (US)
If you investigate me, I think we need you in here one more time with ER to investigate him. If you investigate ER tonight, we probably want you back in the general pool of players. I'll also probably stay out in that case so you can still target me if you want.
At some point, we should each post a list of the players and our quick thoughts on them.
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palmer_v1
08-13-2015
05:48 PM ET (US)
Triple post!
Ill be in and out of here for the next few hours if you guys need me to respond to anything further.
@er: Please make good use of this extra chat time if you're committed to hiding here the rest of the game! What kind of posting schedule are you on?
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Mazre
08-13-2015
05:55 PM ET (US)
Darryl said he gets alignment, p59 from night 1, guessing he doesn't get role names/details. I'm going to lay off any role information for now.
Zubz really was my strongest read so far, though I was overstating a bit in my vote post. I genuinely feel that Seath is just not a very talented player, that said he's definitely the kind of player that can cause harm even as town. Beyond that I'll have to do some homework and see who else sticks out. QB seems really quiet to me anecdotally but I don't recall where he stood in other games (and that's a weak basis all the same).
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palmer_v1
08-13-2015
05:58 PM ET (US)
Don't forget to hit Get Email again. Helps to post from phone that way.
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Darryl
08-13-2015
06:14 PM ET (US)
I read Zubz as mafia up until the very last bit. Until it was too far to rewind. Kinda drains my thoughts on Septimus Prime, who tried to buddy him at the end. Either way, this is yet another case of town vs town bandwagons.
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EzekelRAGE
08-13-2015
06:14 PM ET (US)
So we have got confirmation that Maz is town and Darryl is inves? If palm is also cleared I'll let everyone in on my thinking in regards to my roleclaim.
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Darryl
08-13-2015
06:16 PM ET (US)
There is no confirmation on me. We are flying in on pure FAITH. And I'm not saying who I am actually investigating until it happens, for obvious reasons.
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EzekelRAGE
08-13-2015
06:18 PM ET (US)
There is confirmation on Maz though?
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Darryl
08-13-2015
06:19 PM ET (US)
Yes, Maz is ISIS
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Darryl
08-13-2015
06:19 PM ET (US)
Well this is if you believe me in regards to my role claim, obviously. He's confirmed for me. I'm not going to waste an investigation on myself.
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Darryl
08-13-2015
06:22 PM ET (US)
There is no one that is gonna confirm me, you just have to see if you think I'm town. Eventually it'll be revealed. I'm not planning on making it to the end. I'm just trying to create as big of a net of people who can trust each other as I can before I go. And in all cases, you can absolutely trust Mazre assuming you are town. There is no case where you should push a day eviction on anyone I clear without pushing for me first.
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EzekelRAGE
08-13-2015
06:26 PM ET (US)
Would suck if there were two KGB in here :/.
Anyway, here it goes. I am Archer and I did bluff a little bit with my roleclaim. I don't have total NK immunity. The HP does exist so if she would've carried out the kill on me I would've died, but it was another that did it. I only had one bulletproof vest, good for one nonHP kill. So with the knowledge that any KGB could kill me whether HP or not, I decided to say I had full immunity from all except HP even though I didn't. In hopes this would deter KGB from sending ne1 except HP or going at me 2 nights in a row.
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EzekelRAGE
08-13-2015
06:31 PM ET (US)
palmer I can be here most of the time except for like 4am-11am cst. Other than that I can check it periodically.
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palmer_v1
08-13-2015
07:23 PM ET (US)
What exactly does it say about the Honeypot in your role pm? You can't directly quote it but you can paraphrase it.
Mazre
If you are a power role. IF. What reason would you have to not reveal it it to us?
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Mazre
08-13-2015
07:43 PM ET (US)
Healthy paranoia, I'm more or less 90% confident of everyone in here but it's nice to have something in the back pocket. Not sure if the currently withheld information could be used to any great effect in the worst case scenario, but once it's been said it can't be unsaid.
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palmer_v1
08-13-2015
08:04 PM ET (US)
So the main reason I'm curious is it would give me the ability to recognize somebody else falsely claiming your role. Otherwise, I'd have to just catch on somehow that you know they're lying. Now that i saw this though, maybe create another coded way to let us know that? Solves the problem without you needing to trust me completely.
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Mazre
08-13-2015
08:07 PM ET (US)
Okay, will add to my list of todo's for the night phase.
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Darryl
08-13-2015
09:07 PM ET (US)
That's a good idea
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EzekelRAGE
08-13-2015
09:33 PM ET (US)
palmer It just says my one weakness is the Honeypot in regards to me dying and still having my bp.
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Darryl
08-14-2015
05:09 AM ET (US)
The hardest part I have with the Archer thing is that Seath claimed his role is to kill Archer. Two people designed to kill Archer? Weird.
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palmer_v1
08-14-2015
10:45 AM ET (US)
I thought Seath's claim was completely fabricated?
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EzekelRAGE
08-14-2015
12:21 PM ET (US)
Yea, Seath said his role was fake. Also it would make sense he would say he had to vote me out since I described my role as NK immune.
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EzekelRAGE
08-15-2015
01:53 PM ET (US)
*tumbleweed*
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palmer_v1
08-15-2015
02:37 PM ET (US)
Not much to talk about this time, and it's the weekend.
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Darryl
08-16-2015
07:54 AM ET (US)
Well night gonna be ending. Not sure if there's a lot to talk about. I'm gonna try to stay in the general pool tomorrow so I can try to catch a scum. Probably someone who is just barely dodging being noticed by others. So, if given the chance make sure you say I'm suspicious (which you should be of me, anyways) so that mafia won't try to night evict me. Just don't let people get carried away with actually evicting me.
Also, if you guys sign up for a mission and the only new additions are like, Cabbeh, you can tell he/she. Just only people you're 95% sure of.
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Darryl
08-16-2015
07:55 AM ET (US)
Now let's watch El Topo's omega power leak mission chat to everyone
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Mazre
08-16-2015
12:48 PM ET (US)
Time completely got away from me this weekend. Anyways, signal for "That role is bullshit because it's mine" - I will quote and reply "Why do you want to make Crab cry?", this of course presumes that I have a power role to claim. As for reads I didn't really find time to go back through the thread so I'll just have to put together my normal reads for the group once we have the results for night 2 in. Still planning to sign up for night 3 chat.
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Mazre
08-16-2015
12:51 PM ET (US)
Also re: chat being exposed, I did have the same thought occur in regards to like a Pam/Cheryl role (they sneak onto a LOT of missions in the series), either that or someone planting a bug on a player (we are all spies after all) maybe to give read access to the forum for a limited time or when that player is there. We'll just have to see if something like that pops up.