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Post by Retro on Feb 12, 2016 12:12:07 GMT -8
So I managed to get my hands on a copy of the mafia movie, and we held an impromptu live screening over the Internet last night. I'm willing to do more screenings, but be advised - the movie is in Russian, and there are no subtitles. As soon as I can get subs or a dubbed copy, I'm happy to run that. Meanwhile, here's some actual info on the movie, between our screening and a review I found and translated with Google Translate. THE PREMISEMoscow. 2072. Starting the 57th season of the TV show "Mafia", whose ratings have fallen steadily in recent years. 11 volunteers came to the game to compete for the grand prize - 1 billion rubles. The money will go to either the Mafia, or the surviving town players. The prize will be divided in equal proportions between the winners. I WANNA WATCH IT!Let me know. We'll see what we can do. THE CAST - (I could include the names of the actors, but do you care? Instead I'll note which player in the community they were assigned to.) The Psychologist - Kaz HiraiPrior to the game's beginning, the psychologist interviews every subject to find out what the are most afraid of. This leads into their executions when they are lynched/night killed. Vladimir - RetroMG A former military officer who suffers PTSD over the loss of his men. FATE: Lynched third. Goes back to a warzone where he's the battlefield commander watching all of his troops be slaughtered. Finally, he takes the field himself and fights very well, until he runs out of ammo and is killed an a hail of bullets. Luke - Crab Has been a billionaire for 85 years. Has a passion for gambling, which has helped build his fortune. Has numerous children who don't seem to like him very much. FATE: Survives! He is the final town player. Town loses because it's just him and the last mafia, but he lives and goes home to his horrible children who are horrible. Cyril - Sorian Not a lot of backstorian for Sorian. He's a governmental dissident of some kind, according to the review. FATE: Survives. Throws himself into another player's execution, but manages to survive it, which somehow ends the game. The ending suggests that he is either a member of the mafia, or possibly that he's addicted to the game and wants to play again. He also loses his hat at one point, but recovers it before the end. UPDATE: New information suggests that he IS town, and is addicted to the game. So... Sorian. Larissa - Swamped A once-successful business woman who became an alcoholic as a result of the death of one of her children, possibly due to another player. FATE: Second Night Kill. She is put aboard an airplane while it is crashing. It is also heavily implied that the crime Ivan/Nin is imprisoned for involved her child's death. Maria - YesNOnoNOYes A once famous ballet dancer who lost the use of her legs in a car accident. Now wants to win the money to replace her legs with robot legs. (I'm not making this up.) FATE: Lynched first. She is chased through the woods during a thunderstorm by a sentient bolt of lightning. (Again, not making this up.) She is chased off a cliff, and the lightning hits her in mid-air. Peter - Ourobolus Is hopelessly in love with Maria/YNNNY, and came to the game to be by her side. FATE: Lynched second. (I think he claims to be Mafia during the first lynch in an effort to save Maria/YNNNY.) He is put in a leaking rowboat in the ocean, surrounded by hungry sharks. He cuts himself, which puts blood in the water. He does manage to kill one shark by stabbing it with a broken oar, but he is unable to make it to shore before the rest of the sharks finish devouring the one he killed. They come for him next. Krivoy - Squidy A prisoner. He's not interested in the prize money - if he survives, he'll be released from prison. FATE: First night kill. Forced into a gladiatorial arena, where he manages to fight off a bunch of other fighters, winning the respect and love of the crowd in a truly epic fight sequence... before he trips and is speared through the neck by some metal lying on the ground. Elijah - StanleyPalmtree An engineer suffering from terminal cancer - Wants the money so his family will be cared for. NOTE: This character was barely in the trailers, and we didn't even know about him until last night. Stanley claimed him during the screening, which is perfect, as we also didn't know about Stan when the trailer came out. FATE: Survives! Well, for now, at least. Still has that whole terminal cancer thing. UPDATE: He is the final mafia. He wins the game by virtue of being one of the last two players. When Mafia and Town have equal numbers, the Mafia win. Katerina - ScraftyDevil A mysterious young woman who grew up in an orphanage and wants to know about her past. Knew Cyril/Sorian prior to the game. FATE: Final player to be lynched. (No one is able to decide on someone to lynch in the final round, so she is randomly selected.) She manages to survive an encounter with a giant CGI beast out of Bloodborne with Cyril/Sorian's help. She sees a vision of her being taken to the orphanage by her mother, and then goes on to lead a happy life. We think. Constantine - Blargonaut A "Black Messenger" - A consultant for companies in crisis. We are not told why he joined the game. FATE: Fourth player to be lynched, and the first player to be confirmed as a member of the Mafia. Ironically, Constantine/Blarg places the final vote for himself to be lynched - Typical Blargonaut, voting for himself. While walking through a stairway full of mirrors, he undergoes rapid aging until he dies as an old man. UPDATE: It is also apparently revealed that he joined the game purely to screw it up for others. Vani - Nin1000 A Prisoner who fights to be released from prison. Has a mother who loves him very much. FATE: Third and final Night Kill. Alternates between walking on the beach with his mother, and walking to a firing squad, where he is ultimately shot to death. It is also revealed that the reason he was in prison was because he was in a car with his drunk friends when they crashed, killing multiple people. Vani/Nin was not driving, but the other survivors claimed that he was driving while drunk, and he was sent to prison. It is also implied that Larissa/Swamped's child was in the car with him, and died.
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Post by Coppanuva on Feb 12, 2016 13:48:27 GMT -8
Cyril? Sorian's character is named Cyril? Also I hope they make this a franchise. Let MAFIA be the Russian version of The Hunger Games. Shame this is going to get snubbed at the Academy Awards
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Post by Sorian on Feb 12, 2016 14:01:20 GMT -8
Cyril? Sorian's character is named Cyril? Also I hope they make this a franchise. Let MAFIA be the Russian version of The Hunger Games. Shame this is going to get snubbed at the Academy Awards You got a problem with my character's name?
Retro and I were theorizing that my character could be the sequel hook because the data pad at the end said "Your request had been approved" which was the same thing my data pad said during my short back story scene so we think it might be me signing up for another mafia game (true Sorian ). Glad to see that you tagged the most important spoiler.
That I get my beanie back
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Post by Sorian on Feb 12, 2016 14:27:01 GMT -8
THE PREMISEMoscow. 2072. Starting the 57th season of the TV show "Mafia", whose ratings have fallen steadily in recent years. 11 volunteers came to the game to compete for the grand prize - 1 billion rubles. The money will go to either the Mafia, or the surviving town players. The prize will be divided in equal proportions between the winners. Also, because Coppa and I were joking about it last night. A billion rubles is a little shy of 13 million US dollars in today's economy. Do we think the ruble has tanked further in the dystopian future or is it the new superior currency?
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Post by Coppanuva on Feb 13, 2016 21:16:00 GMT -8
Cyril? Sorian's character is named Cyril? Also I hope they make this a franchise. Let MAFIA be the Russian version of The Hunger Games. Shame this is going to get snubbed at the Academy Awards You got a problem with my character's name?
Retro and I were theorizing that my character could be the sequel hook because the data pad at the end said "Your request had been approved" which was the same thing my data pad said during my short back story scene so we think it might be me signing up for another mafia game (true Sorian ). Glad to see that you tagged the most important spoiler.
That I get my beanie back No no, not in the least. It just makes me think of Cyril from Archer and the idea of those 2 characters acting the same is amusing. Sequel hook could be good though... I was kinda serious about wanting this to be like a Russian Hunger Games (except just keep focusing it on the Mafia games being played, build the world through the characters playing it). Even having no idea what was going on, it was entertaining at the very least and the Special Effects were fun. Not amazing, but fun at least.
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Post by yn on Feb 13, 2016 21:53:22 GMT -8
I was Cyril in Archer! SORIAN AND I ARE NOW ONE AND THE SAME???!!! .... YOU BASTERDS why am i lynched first ;____; basteeeeeeerddddddssssss
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Post by Retro on Feb 14, 2016 6:59:56 GMT -8
So there is one thread on the IMDB message board for this movie, where the guy basically complained that he didn't like it. I stepped in and asked for clarification on the ending, but another guy stepped in and said, "Don't ask me, I didn't get it either. The beginning and end of this movie feels like two separate films."
So... You know, super helpful already.
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Post by Retro on Feb 14, 2016 7:03:05 GMT -8
Sorry for double post, but I wanted this separate.
I am going to do another broadcast screening this week, and try to line it up for the European viewers. What day/time in your time zone would be best? Let me know here or by PM.
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Post by Sorian on Feb 14, 2016 7:21:49 GMT -8
Sorry for double post, but I wanted this separate. I am going to do another broadcast screening this week, and try to line it up for the European viewers. What day/time in your time zone would be best? Let me know here or by PM. I'm not sure how many people are going to notice this post in the thread marked SPOILERS.
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Post by Flush on Feb 14, 2016 13:06:47 GMT -8
I'm not sure how many people are going to notice this post in the thread marked SPOILERS. Well, at least me We should rename it to *marked spoilers* Sorry for double post, but I wanted this separate. I am going to do another broadcast screening this week, and try to line it up for the European viewers. What day/time in your time zone would be best? Let me know here or by PM. Monday-Thursday I'll regulary be at home (and not asleep) between 7-8pm and 1am CET (which is 1-2pm and 5pm ET)
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Post by Splinter on Feb 14, 2016 13:35:20 GMT -8
Do we have subtitles? I don't know a word of Russian...
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Post by Sorian on Feb 14, 2016 13:40:57 GMT -8
Do we have subtitles? I don't know a word of Russian... Nah, no subtitles yet. All of us who watched it the other night also did not know a word of russian lol. They are playing a game of mafia for most of the movie so it's pretty easy to tell what's going on. It's only the ending that starts to get confusing.
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Post by Retro on Feb 14, 2016 14:24:25 GMT -8
Do we have subtitles? I don't know a word of Russian... Nah, no subtitles yet. All of us who watched it the other night also did not know a word of russian lol. They are playing a game of mafia for most of the movie so it's pretty easy to tell what's going on. It's only the ending that starts to get confusing. And to be honest, it's kind of fun that way, with people guessing at what is going on. I'm still keeping an eye out for a subbed/dubbed copy, and I'll announce when I find it.
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Post by Ourobolus on Feb 19, 2016 20:44:49 GMT -8
At least I went out with stabbing a shark.
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Post by nin1000 on Feb 21, 2016 14:55:54 GMT -8
i need to see this
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Post by Retro on Feb 25, 2016 11:45:30 GMT -8
www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8Fex6e8BNgHere's the whole movie (still in russian) if you haven't seen it. I've been working on getting an English copy, but it's just nowhere to be found. I know it was dubbed into English, and it was going to be screened at a festival in Boston sometime back, but I guess that never happened.
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Post by Retro on Mar 6, 2016 22:53:48 GMT -8
So I learned some new stuff tonight! I updated the OP, but here's a rundown. -During the last round of the game, the players were unable to agree on someone to lynch, and so Scrafty was randomly selected. -Blargonaut apparently joined the game purely to mess with it. -Sorian and Scrafty were both town. -Crab was the final surviving town player, and Stanley was the final surviving mafia player. When mafia and town are tied, mafia wins. -The final shot is apparently Sorian signing up for another game because he really wants to beat the mafia.
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Post by Swamped on Mar 7, 2016 4:48:10 GMT -8
So I learned some new stuff tonight! I updated the OP, but here's a rundown. -During the last round of the game, the players were unable to agree on someone to lynch, and so Scrafty was randomly selected. -Blargonaut apparently joined the game purely to mess with it. -Sorian and Scrafty were both town. -Crab was the final surviving town player, and Stanley was the final surviving mafia player. When mafia and town are tied, mafia wins. -The final shot is apparently Sorian signing up for another game because he really wants to beat the mafia. I find it so cool and hilarious that you use our names for the characters. Makes them feel real lol. I'll try and watch the film at some point, but reading the spoilers is really fun.
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Post by Sorian on Mar 7, 2016 15:06:43 GMT -8
So I learned some new stuff tonight! I updated the OP, but here's a rundown. -During the last round of the game, the players were unable to agree on someone to lynch, and so Scrafty was randomly selected. -Blargonaut apparently joined the game purely to mess with it. -Sorian and Scrafty were both town. -Crab was the final surviving town player, and Stanley was the final surviving mafia player. When mafia and town are tied, mafia wins. -The final shot is apparently Sorian signing up for another game because he really wants to beat the mafia. I find it so cool and hilarious that you use our names for the characters. Makes them feel real lol. I'll try and watch the film at some point, but reading the spoilers is really fun. What's even better is when parallels line up with the movie character and the real person.
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Post by Retro on Mar 7, 2016 15:47:45 GMT -8
So I learned some new stuff tonight! I updated the OP, but here's a rundown. -During the last round of the game, the players were unable to agree on someone to lynch, and so Scrafty was randomly selected. -Blargonaut apparently joined the game purely to mess with it. -Sorian and Scrafty were both town. -Crab was the final surviving town player, and Stanley was the final surviving mafia player. When mafia and town are tied, mafia wins. -The final shot is apparently Sorian signing up for another game because he really wants to beat the mafia. I find it so cool and hilarious that you use our names for the characters. Makes them feel real lol. I'll try and watch the film at some point, but reading the spoilers is really fun. Lmao, thanks, Swamped. It's purely because I can't remember any of their names. (Except for Sorian, who is Cyril.)
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Post by nicellis44 on May 12, 2016 19:06:56 GMT -8
Soooo... I tried watching it in russian, but apparently I'm not as patient as some of the other people on here. I got frustrated and cobbled together some programming to generate some english subtitles automatically. It's basically googles speech-to-text into cyrillic Russian, followed by a separate step to translate the results into english. The result is watchable, and gives you the gist of whats happening about 70% of the time. Its not great when people talk real quietly but gets hilarious when it tries to translate insults. Attachments:mafiaRussian.srt (67.66 KB)
mafiaEnglish.srt (52.18 KB)
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Post by Retro on May 12, 2016 19:29:01 GMT -8
Soooo... I tried watching it in russian, but apparently I'm not as patient as some of the other people on here. I got frustrated and cobbled together some programming to generate some english subtitles automatically. It's basically googles speech-to-text into cyrillic Russian, followed by a separate step to translate the results into english. The result is watchable, and gives you the gist of whats happening about 70% of the time. Its not great when people talk real quietly but gets hilarious when it tries to translate insults. Whoa! Dude, you are amazing! Thanks a lot! Welcome to the forum, by the way. How did you find us?
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