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Post by karkador on Mar 17, 2016 10:42:01 GMT -8
We have to start asking some difficult questions.
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Post by karkador on Mar 17, 2016 10:48:34 GMT -8
So you're saying, we claim we saw ty4on move, but we're not surewhat it means? where did they go?
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Post by zippedpinhead on Mar 17, 2016 10:50:15 GMT -8
We claim we saw kingkitty move to us two nights ago, since there was no death, we assumed they were a town power role (maybe the doctor) and didn't want to reveal.
Last night we watched ty4on and we aren't sure how to handle what/if they did anything.
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Post by zippedpinhead on Mar 17, 2016 10:50:54 GMT -8
We claim we saw kingkitty move to us two nights ago, since there was no death, we assumed they were a town power role (maybe the doctor) and that we got a result Kark and I didn't want to reveal.
Last night we watched ty4on and we aren't sure how to handle what/if they did anything.
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Post by karkador on Mar 17, 2016 10:52:19 GMT -8
1) So the night we reported "no result", we were actually hiding kingkitty
2) but does that mean we Ty4on target somebody, or not target anyone? If they did, then who? I think a "they didn't do anything" is a non-starter for conversation. claiming they did something is what's going to pop it off
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Post by zippedpinhead on Mar 17, 2016 10:52:27 GMT -8
If they had moved to the deceased it would be an easy reveal but since they might not have, we don't know how to handle it.
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Post by karkador on Mar 17, 2016 10:53:39 GMT -8
also, now that the real doctor is deceased...what's El Topo?
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Post by zippedpinhead on Mar 17, 2016 10:53:58 GMT -8
1) So the night we reported "no result", we were actually hiding kingkitty 2) but does that mean we Ty4on target somebody, or not target anyone? If they did, then who? I think a "they didn't do anything" is a non-starter for conversation. claiming they did something is what's going to pop it off Yesterday we just plain didn't reveal if we saw anyone or not. So it gives us an out. We need to breadcrumb that we saw them move so they will join the discussion but not outright say "they moved to X"
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Post by zippedpinhead on Mar 17, 2016 10:56:03 GMT -8
We claimed no result night 3 (Ty4on investigation night) but night 4 we didn't claim anything to protect kingkitty.
Night five we investigated Ty4on and got a result that we aren't sure if we can share (because we don't want to kill discussion).
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Post by karkador on Mar 17, 2016 10:59:28 GMT -8
But we only have 3 shots?
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Post by zippedpinhead on Mar 17, 2016 11:00:49 GMT -8
We reveal 4 shot tracker, we never said how many we had left...
El Topo... I don't know, now that they aren't doctors I don't know how to handle them...
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Post by zippedpinhead on Mar 17, 2016 11:02:16 GMT -8
The ty4on claim of tracking (without revealing result) should get a few votes. Probably from camjo' steam. Honestly, they seem the most scummy of the groups we don't have reads on.
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Post by karkador on Mar 17, 2016 11:03:53 GMT -8
oh no, haha....i think we have to anchor onto SOME established 'truth' about our role; otherwise, they're going to shoot it down on the simple # of shots.
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Post by zippedpinhead on Mar 17, 2016 11:06:33 GMT -8
oh no, haha....i think we have to anchor onto SOME established 'truth' about our role; otherwise, they're going to shoot it down on the simple # of shots. Fair enough, then we reveal ty4on, we were three shot tracker. and we don't know how to handle their result.
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Post by zippedpinhead on Mar 17, 2016 11:10:27 GMT -8
Or we just flat reveal no movement.
And say that el Topo was definately targeted from the neutral but that doesn't mean they are town.
With ultrajay and ty4on's team's non-movement that leaves us with kyanrute's team, el Topo's team and camjo-Z's teams as the remaining groups that were not tracked and not claiming anything.
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Post by karkador on Mar 17, 2016 11:28:20 GMT -8
I think it's feasible to claim that we didn't track anything on N3 and N4, saving our shot until we decided to use it on N5.
On the other hand, what if we lied so much, it forces SOMEONE who knows something (even scum) to try to act on lynching us?
If we assume there is at least one more investigative role of some sort, even on the scum side - we throw a false accusation out there, and they're going to pick up on it. With so few players left, there's little crowd left to blend into.
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Post by karkador on Mar 17, 2016 11:32:06 GMT -8
Zipped, there's also ...the nuclear option
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Post by zippedpinhead on Mar 17, 2016 11:32:38 GMT -8
I hate Camjo-Z's claim. He did a non-claim, which is really scummy. So I called him out on it.
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Post by zippedpinhead on Mar 17, 2016 11:33:35 GMT -8
Zipped, there's also ...the nuclear option You had me at "...". What is the "nuclear option"?
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Post by karkador on Mar 17, 2016 11:34:54 GMT -8
we claim we were cops all along
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Post by zippedpinhead on Mar 17, 2016 11:36:46 GMT -8
To what end, and what do we claim?
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Post by zippedpinhead on Mar 17, 2016 11:37:14 GMT -8
I love the idea though. Because if we do have a cop they have been worthless
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Post by karkador on Mar 17, 2016 12:20:00 GMT -8
Well, the end is either to sink someone we think is scum (we better be right), or cause enough of a ruckus that scum reacts.
If there's a town cop, they will have most likely already looked at us, and probably won't get in our way. If its just Ordinary Town out there, it's likely that the remaining scum knows just enough to try to call our bluff.
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Post by zippedpinhead on Mar 17, 2016 12:40:17 GMT -8
Who do we go all in on then?
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Post by karkador on Mar 17, 2016 12:52:08 GMT -8
so we claim Cop, and that we looked at Blarg N1, and decided to call his bluff on D2 because the claim seemed so weird- hence why we relented a little bit towards the end; perhaps we got a little convinced.
N2, we looked at Jay and got Town
N3, we looked at Coppa and got scum, which is how we sank him so decisively on D4.
N4, we looked at batsnacks, neutral
N5, we looked at someone and got scum
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Post by karkador on Mar 17, 2016 12:54:01 GMT -8
Ty4on?
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Post by karkador on Mar 17, 2016 13:00:36 GMT -8
But we might need to do a Splinter-esque trap with ty4on as the bait, if we want to catch scum. To that end, our pick for who to sink with the cop claim doesn't have to be correct. If it looks like an easy target, they'll probably bite, unless they're inactive.
Then we flip it around at some point, and totally come clean about who we tracked. Since we have the info on Ty4on, we can use our D3 track to let the pressure off of him.
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Post by zippedpinhead on Mar 17, 2016 13:02:43 GMT -8
I like it!!!
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Post by karkador on Mar 17, 2016 13:03:36 GMT -8
The one concerning thing is this - the players who kept asking for our tracker result. Is it possible that the last scum player has some means to throw our result off, and so they're trying to get us to establish some misleading info?
We already killed the "ordinary scum" player...i feel like the remaining scum have powers.
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Post by karkador on Mar 17, 2016 20:22:26 GMT -8
if we're going to do this, we're going in with style
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