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Post by Roytheone on Jan 29, 2016 10:41:14 GMT -8
#notsostealthbrag Nailed the four hedgemaze puzzles right away this morning. Hedgemaze 2 was the only one that took a bit of time but I was trying the solution to 4 for number 2 originally before figuring it out (so I was automatically checking that for the rest of them as well). Hedge mazes aren't actually that though, only 2 is a bit tricky, the rest were easy for me. But now I am an hour+ stuck at the final puzzle in the orange/brown/green Forrest  |
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Post by Kalor on Jan 29, 2016 13:21:38 GMT -8
#notsostealthbrag Nailed the four hedgemaze puzzles right away this morning. Hedgemaze 2 was the only one that took a bit of time but I was trying the solution to 4 for number 2 originally before figuring it out (so I was automatically checking that for the rest of them as well). Hedge mazes aren't actually that though, only 2 is a bit tricky, the rest were easy for me. But now I am an hour+ stuck at the final puzzle in the orange/brown/green Forrest If its the one I'm thinking of that one took me some time as well but mostly because I saw different ways of completing it.
All these people who have done the hedge mazes and I'm still overlooking something in 3. Maybe its what I get for not struggling with 2. |
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Post by Sorian on Jan 29, 2016 13:23:45 GMT -8
Hedge mazes aren't actually that though, only 2 is a bit tricky, the rest were easy for me. But now I am an hour+ stuck at the final puzzle in the orange/brown/green Forrest If its the one I'm thinking of that one took me some time as well but mostly because I saw different ways of completing it.
All these people who have done the hedge mazes and I'm still overlooking something in 3. Maybe its what I get for not struggling with 2. I agree with Splinter in that hedge 3 is either something you will get right away or possibly not at all. Here is literally the vaguest of hints:
Just walk around the maze and pay attention to everything you can without actually thinking about solving a puzzle and see if you notice anything odd |
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Post by Kalor on Jan 29, 2016 13:47:23 GMT -8
I went back to 3 and accidently brute forced it. I still have no idea why the answer is what it is but hopefully that knowledge doesn't come up again. I figured out 4 quickly afterwards, it was a lot more straight forward.
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Post by Roytheone on Jan 29, 2016 13:48:45 GMT -8
I went back to 3 and accidently brute forced it. I still have no idea why the answer is what it is but hopefully that knowledge doesn't come up again. I figured out 4 quickly afterwards, it was a lot more straight forward. Solution spoiler : the correct path has a different footstep sound |
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Post by Kalor on Jan 29, 2016 13:56:29 GMT -8
I went back to 3 and accidently brute forced it. I still have no idea why the answer is what it is but hopefully that knowledge doesn't come up again. I figured out 4 quickly afterwards, it was a lot more straight forward. Solution spoiler : the correct path has a different footstep sound I never even thought of that. I was completely focused on finding a visual indicator to mark the path. |
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Post by Splinter on Jan 30, 2016 6:57:40 GMT -8
520+116+1, think I give up here though. Apparently the max is 523+135+6 and the reward for that is nothing :/ |
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Post by Roytheone on Jan 30, 2016 12:47:24 GMT -8
Just curious if I solved this puzzle the way they intended: In the greenhouse the elevator at the floor where the cable is broken. I solved it by making screenshots of the 4 working floors and flipping through them, that way I found a pattern in the puzzles and just continued that pattern for floor 5. Is this the way they intended? Or did they intend for you to do something with color? |
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Post by Splinter on Jan 30, 2016 15:28:27 GMT -8
Just curious if I solved this puzzle the way they intended: In the greenhouse the elevator at the floor where the cable is broken. I solved it by making screenshots of the 4 working floors and flipping through them, that way I found a pattern in the puzzles and just continued that pattern for floor 5. Is this the way they intended? Or did they intend for you to do something with color? You were supposed to see that the floor above you is green, work out what the puzzle would look like under a green light, then solve that. I guessed it, would never have gotten it otherwise, even though I kind of new what to do. Too much effort |
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Post by Roytheone on Jan 30, 2016 15:34:11 GMT -8
Just curious if I solved this puzzle the way they intended: In the greenhouse the elevator at the floor where the cable is broken. I solved it by making screenshots of the 4 working floors and flipping through them, that way I found a pattern in the puzzles and just continued that pattern for floor 5. Is this the way they intended? Or did they intend for you to do something with color? You were supposed to see that the floor above you is green, work out what the puzzle would look like under a green light, then solve that. I guessed it, would never have gotten it otherwise, even though I kind of new what to do. Too much effort Yeah, that wasn't going to happen  thankfully, looking at the puzzles in sequence shows a pretty clear patern:
-separate only left side
-separate left and right side
-separate only right side
-separate right and middle side
It was pretty clear after that, that the next one was separate only middle side. |
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Post by Roytheone on Jan 31, 2016 15:12:32 GMT -8
Just spend 45 minutes solving the last, big panel of the pressure plate part of the castle, and since I already did the mazes nothing happened . Fuck this game. After that, I returned to the swamp and finally understood a rule I was missing there which caused me to be stuck (the rule that if you use tetris shapes to make one big shape, the icons don't need to be part of their own "sub shape") I felt so smart. I love this game. |
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Post by Burbeting on Feb 1, 2016 10:24:41 GMT -8
Just missing one beam of light now |
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Post by Roytheone on Feb 1, 2016 12:42:34 GMT -8
200+12, 5 beams of light, and I finally, FINALLY got that last freaking orange forest puzzle. Damn, what a relief that one is done.
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Post by Kalor on Feb 1, 2016 13:32:35 GMT -8
I don't remember the exact number but I'm over 300 with + 17 and 7 beams of light. I was thinking about going to the endgame before wrapping everything else up but there is one mechanic that I don't know how to deal with yet and it might come up. I think that it might play into the later puzzles of the swamp so I've been going through that.
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Post by Splinter on Feb 1, 2016 13:45:19 GMT -8
200+12, 5 beams of light, and I finally, FINALLY got that last freaking orange forest puzzle. Damn, what a relief that one is done. what were you doing wrong on that one?? |
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Post by Roytheone on Feb 1, 2016 14:12:28 GMT -8
200+12, 5 beams of light, and I finally, FINALLY got that last freaking orange forest puzzle. Damn, what a relief that one is done. what were you doing wrong on that one?? I simply didn't thought about the left side of the panel having a different mechanic than the right side, so I started to way overthink it. Also, when I opened one of the doors, I didn't walk back to look and instead did the other side directly after. Seeing only half of the puzzle beforehand would probably have helped a bit. I blame Burb  |
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Post by CzarTim on Feb 2, 2016 1:41:37 GMT -8
Yay, beat it! Was at 403 + 6 at the end, took 25-30 hours. Not sure how much side stuff I want to do, might mess around with it a bit until xcom. I at least want to finish the last 2 remaining sections.
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Post by Splinter on Feb 2, 2016 1:43:48 GMT -8
Don't miss the best bit Tim!
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Post by Burbeting on Feb 2, 2016 1:52:41 GMT -8
I have all beams but almost no + puzzles. Today I'll venture to the endgame.
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Post by Roytheone on Feb 2, 2016 2:18:46 GMT -8
Seeing all those low + puzzles count is interesting, since I am way behind in actual puzzles, but do have quite a few + puzzles. I guess I am just pretty decent at spotting them?
Anyway, i am pretty deep into the swamp, so I will probably (hopefully) finish that area today. Haven't decided yet what will be next.
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Post by Sorian on Feb 2, 2016 6:25:22 GMT -8
Seeing all those low + puzzles count is interesting, since I am way behind in actual puzzles, but do have quite a few + puzzles. I guess I am just pretty decent at spotting them? Anyway, i am pretty deep into the swamp, so I will probably (hopefully) finish that area today. Haven't decided yet what will be next. Yeah, I'm terrible at finding + puzzles. Also working through the swamp, finished the bamboo forest last night. I hate sound puzzles, I'm very tone deaf |
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Post by Roytheone on Feb 2, 2016 11:46:56 GMT -8
Just did swamp, man that place is grueling. But I do kinda love how the game teaches you a mechanic there, let's you solve some puzzles letting you think you mastered it, and then introduces a part of the mechanic you didn't even think about. |
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Post by Splinter on Feb 2, 2016 12:47:00 GMT -8
Swamp is tough. It gets a lot of (imo) unfair criticism for not explaining mechanics sufficiently, but I think they are explained fine (as long as you take the time to learn them) - it just has a lot of challenging puzzles.
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Post by Roytheone on Feb 2, 2016 13:31:41 GMT -8
Swamp is tough. It gets a lot of (imo) unfair criticism for not explaining mechanics sufficiently, but I think they are explained fine (as long as you take the time to learn them) - it just has a lot of challenging puzzles. I would say there were two specific points I would have liked one or two more tutorial puzzles, but in the end I did figured it out and felt very smart afterwards. |
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Post by squidyj on Feb 4, 2016 15:32:22 GMT -8
The hardest puzzle is remembering the places where I encountered puzzles I hadn't learned yet and coming back to them.
As I go I think I get smarter though. I got stuck earlier, now I'm tearing through things. got around to doing the castle, mazes and pressure plates were both easy. Took me a minute on the third maze because I was playing music.
Love those tetris puzzles
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Post by Roytheone on Feb 5, 2016 11:53:04 GMT -8
322+24 with 8 beams. Quarry and treetops were both very easy for me. I could go and finish the game now, but I want to at least try the other areas first. Now working on the bamboo/jungle forrest, and honestly, it is the first time I am annoyed with the game and think it is being unfair. If you try a solution that doesn't work, you don't know if it is wrong because you are trying the wrong thing, or because you simply got the pitches wrong. Which is incredibly frustrating. Take the one with the wolf for example. I tried inputting the wolf howl as mid-mid-high-mid, but it was wrong. So naturally, I thought that was the wrong direction of thinking. But it turned out I was right, and simply got the pitch wrong, it was low-mid-high-mid. I am now onto the next one, and I have no idea if I am thinking wrong, or I got the pitches wrong. Which sucks. |
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Post by Kalor on Feb 5, 2016 13:20:51 GMT -8
I'm around 390 + 21 with 9 beams. I'm working on the final area as I think I know all the mechanics now. While I haven't finished two areas (Zen and Swamp) I know the mechanics behind them. I'll likely go and wrap up those areas and some other stuff once I'm done in the final area.
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Post by Splinter on Feb 5, 2016 15:19:49 GMT -8
Agreed Roy, that entire area is terrible
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Post by Roytheone on Feb 7, 2016 13:56:26 GMT -8
10 beams, done dessert (which was bad, just "stand at the correct spot to see the line" over and over again ), and town (which was great, it really tested all the knowledge I got from previous areas and did some fun different stuff with it! ) |
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Post by Roytheone on Feb 10, 2016 13:50:09 GMT -8
11 beams, and almost done with the final area. But I did brute forced a puzzle and I am still curious what the "correct" way was of solving it: It's in the bird jungle, the puzzle right after the one with the wolf. I just put in the long beep as high, and then went through all the possibilities for the remaining three until i found the correct combination, which turned out to be low-medium-low. No idea why though, was that how i was meant to visualize the whistling man? Because that was NOT how I would visualize the pitch of that sound. |
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