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Post by Burbeting on Jan 23, 2016 14:13:32 GMT -8
Splintertheking party.
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Post by xamtheking on Jan 23, 2016 14:13:54 GMT -8
RAAAAAVEEEE PARRRRTTTYY
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Post by Splinter on Jan 23, 2016 14:25:23 GMT -8
I switched coppa and cabot Also no kill kill again? Mystery solved. CornB would have seen whoever cabot visited. Spoilers: Cabot didn't visit anyone
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Post by Gorlak on Jan 24, 2016 3:32:04 GMT -8
Hahahaha @switcher mess! Before they were like "hey, we all agree switcher is inherently more anti than protown" and today "oh yeah, I switched last night" - lol
I really like how Coppa and Tim are fighting there way through the game :) The case against coppa is soooo weak "it has to be him bc Kalor was killed", oh yeah no wait "it has to be him bc meta-bs". I'm really saddened that he'll die regardless of his efforts. If he survives the lynch decision, he'll just get turned into goo... In place of Kingkitty I'd kill the ghosts randomly instead of helping town. Where is the point in following orders when you are an invincible serial killer?
Never mind, hope you had fun Splinter :D Great plan by team scum, they will never figure out the 6 switches.
Also why didn't they kill Sorian ages ago? He's the only one who keeps up the activity in AL. Imagine Coppa and Tim were in AL last night, they simply could voted out roy and won, right?
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Post by Splinter on Jan 24, 2016 4:20:27 GMT -8
Yeah I'm surprised KingKitty is being town's bitch. An immortal Serial killer... and I even told him he's immune to volcano eruptions! I can't say "please help scum" any more clearly than that. Oh well, if he weren't immortal this would definitely be the best way to play his role, I guess.
Killing Sorian would definitely help, but Tim considers it poor sportsmanship. It would really kill the AL and make the game less interesting. Plus he's more concerned with trolling town than actually winning at this point - fair enough I think.
I've thought Coppa looked pretty sketchy all game to be honest, though obviously that's from a position of spoilers and I can't say how he looks to someone in-game.
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Post by Splinter on Jan 24, 2016 8:51:28 GMT -8
#switcherorgy
Just want to say I think town are playing this very poorly. By now it should be obvious that this mess isn't worth resolving, so ignore results and ask why these actions were made in the first place.
Eg. "Coppa, you claim to have switched [whoever], why would you do that? etc.
Coppa and Tim made their switches for chaos and will have to invent a justification, everyone else should have at least some reasoning. If you can spot the difference between the genuine and invented explanations: congratulations on playing Mafia well.
(OTOH: the solution to this seems to be "let's lynch Coppa anyway". This scum team just can't catch a break.)
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Post by xamtheking on Jan 24, 2016 14:31:43 GMT -8
Splinter, the reason KK is Town's bitch is that if KK does what he wants, he runs the risk of giving scum majority, which will lose him the game
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Post by Splinter on Jan 24, 2016 14:55:47 GMT -8
Splinter, the reason KK is Town's bitch is that if KK does what he wants, he runs the risk of giving scum majority, which will lose him the game No the volcano won't kill him, he wins with scum
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Post by xamtheking on Jan 24, 2016 19:37:31 GMT -8
Oh ok
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Post by Splinter on Jan 25, 2016 8:21:40 GMT -8
I think I'd be pretty suspicious of Sorian+Terra at this point. The contradictions started shortly after Sorian joined the AL, and now he's pulling some slight mental gymnastics to keep Terra up for one more night phase.
Would probably push for Sorian's lynch, and I suspect Sawneeks at least would join that. If not, settle for a TB lynch.
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Post by xamtheking on Jan 25, 2016 9:27:08 GMT -8
Splinter, I have some comments about the game, before the review thread 1. You, like Day 9 of this game, are just a farce 2. I really liked the afterlife mechanic, but that should have been public information from the get-go. I know a big part of the game revolves around the AL, but it would have been nice to know that another level existed in some fashion officially. 3. I thought you missed a great opportunity in making some super-wacky roles. Ghostbuster was cool as shit, but it seemed to me that everyone else was just your basic switcher/tracker/watcher/etc. 4. You also needed to dual-run this game because I can understand why it would be hell to run this game alone, and you did make some mistakes because of that. 5. This is a big one; you should have made it abundantly clear immediately after Zipped got lynched what was up.
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Post by squidyj on Jan 25, 2016 11:01:54 GMT -8
Splinter, the reason KK is Town's bitch is that if KK does what he wants, he runs the risk of giving scum majority, which will lose him the game No the volcano won't kill him, he wins with scum .....does he know that?
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Post by Burbeting on Jan 25, 2016 11:03:49 GMT -8
It's in his Role PM, I think.
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Post by Splinter on Jan 25, 2016 11:53:48 GMT -8
Splinter, I have some comments about the game, before the review thread 1. You, like Day 9 of this game, are just a farce 2. I really liked the afterlife mechanic, but that should have been public information from the get-go. I know a big part of the game revolves around the AL, but it would have been nice to know that another level existed in some fashion officially. 3. I thought you missed a great opportunity in making some super-wacky roles. Ghostbuster was cool as shit, but it seemed to me that everyone else was just your basic switcher/tracker/watcher/etc. 4. You also needed to dual-run this game because I can understand why it would be hell to run this game alone, and you did make some mistakes because of that. 5. This is a big one; you should have made it abundantly clear immediately after Zipped got lynched what was up. 1. no u 2. ehh it 'could' have been, but didn't have to be. I did consider running this under various levels of information, from its current form all the way up to an open game. In the end I wanted there to be some mystery and gradual discovery of the mechanics. Now if you said that there was too much of this and it got in the way of actually playing Mafia then I'd agree with that. 3. Intentional. I think everyone expected a bastard game to be filled with crazy roles like the Ghostbuster, but this was very much about mechanics rather than roles. The intention here was for the game to be very bastard and yet still have scum hunting. I think this failed a bit, but would have been worse if everyone was relying on their crazy PRs to "solve" the game. 4. I'll be honest here, most of those "mistakes" where actually me rebalancing things while the game was running. This game wasn't actually complete when we started (unexpected gap in our schedule that I couldn't resist filling), and I completely fucked up the scum roles at the last minute. I've been playing damage-control for pretty much the entire game because of that. (I fully expect to get some hate for this point, oh well.) 4b. That said, this was a crazy time-sink for me especially in that first week. I did want to test short day/night phases but now I STRONGLY STRONGLY recommend against the short night phase. (Short days where actually not so bad? I think?) 5. You mean about Day 1 not being real? Nah, the timing of the reveal went as planned, I don't regret that point at all. There are probably a bunch of other things to discuss, and in general I ran this game in a way that... I wouldn't approve of, personally. But I'll save all that for the end I guess.
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Post by Splinter on Jan 25, 2016 11:54:06 GMT -8
No the volcano won't kill him, he wins with scum .....does he know that? Definitely
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Post by Splinter on Jan 25, 2016 11:58:12 GMT -8
Splinter, I have some comments about the game, before the review thread 1. You, like Day 9 of this game, are just a farce 2. I really liked the afterlife mechanic, but that should have been public information from the get-go. I know a big part of the game revolves around the AL, but it would have been nice to know that another level existed in some fashion officially. 3. I thought you missed a great opportunity in making some super-wacky roles. Ghostbuster was cool as shit, but it seemed to me that everyone else was just your basic switcher/tracker/watcher/etc. 4. You also needed to dual-run this game because I can understand why it would be hell to run this game alone, and you did make some mistakes because of that. 5. This is a big one; you should have made it abundantly clear immediately after Zipped got lynched what was up. 1. no u 2. ehh it 'could' have been, but didn't have to be. I did consider running this under various levels of information, from its current form all the way up to an open game. In the end I wanted there to be some mystery and gradual discovery of the mechanics. Now if you said that there was too much of this and it got in the way of actually playing Mafia then I'd agree with that. 3. Intentional. I think everyone expected a bastard game to be filled with crazy roles like the Ghostbuster, but this was very much about mechanics rather than roles. The intention here was for the game to be very bastard and yet still have scum hunting. I think this failed a bit, but would have been worse if everyone was relying on their crazy PRs to "solve" the game. 4. I'll be honest here, most of those "mistakes" where actually me rebalancing things while the game was running. This game wasn't actually complete when we started (unexpected gap in our schedule that I couldn't resist filling), and I completely fucked up the scum roles at the last minute. I've been playing damage-control for pretty much the entire game because of that. (I fully expect to get some hate for this point, oh well.) 4b. That said, this was a crazy time-sink for me especially in that first week. I did want to test short day/night phases but now I STRONGLY STRONGLY recommend against the short night phase. (Short days where actually not so bad? I think?) 5. You mean about Day 1 not being real? Nah, the timing of the reveal went as planned, I don't regret that point at all. There are probably a bunch of other things to discuss, and in general I ran this game in a way that... I wouldn't approve of, personally. But I'll save all that for the end I guess. 3b. Ghostbuster and Shaman only exist because the game required them
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Post by squidyj on Jan 25, 2016 12:02:12 GMT -8
I'm just joking about kitty. he has no reason to side with scum, he actually doesn't seem to have much of a reason for anything.
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Post by Gorlak on Jan 25, 2016 12:40:48 GMT -8
I'm just joking about kitty. he has no reason to side with scum, he actually doesn't seem to have much of a reason for anything. Yeah, I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings, but a regular random night kill in AL would do the job as well. Hmm, that's odd. Why does Darryl assume that it's going to be Terra's flip? ... because living town actively decided to get rid of Terra and not Coppa? Because THEY wanted to see the flip of the Terra?
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Post by Splinter on Jan 25, 2016 12:43:11 GMT -8
I'm just joking about kitty. he has no reason to side with scum, he actually doesn't seem to have much of a reason for anything. Yeah, I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings, but a regular random night kill in AL would do the job as well. Yeah thats why I don't want to pass the role on to anyone else, its basically pointless for whoever gets it. kitty seemed happy enough to play it out
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Post by Gorlak on Jan 25, 2016 12:47:15 GMT -8
Yeah thats why I don't want to pass the role on to anyone else, its basically pointless for whoever gets it. kitty seemed happy enough to play it out Give it to me! I'll let you do rng kills as long as I can harass everyone! Edit: Honestly, this is the worst about Outer Gafia! Being unable to jump in and throw a line. Never gonna happen here :( No Fun allowed.
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Post by Splinter on Jan 25, 2016 12:50:35 GMT -8
I can't see them lynching KK again, unfortunately I've lost most curiosity to my spirit role after seeing how mostly rubbish they've been in the big picture of things and the multiple PRs that do the same thing. I push for that option because if you're honestly hunting scum, then it's the safest thing you could do. I honestly don't think my PR will be anything new or useful, you can thank splinter and this game so far for that outlook. This is amusing because Cabot does actually have a PR we haven't seen yet, although its usefulness is still debatable.
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Post by Burbeting on Jan 25, 2016 13:04:10 GMT -8
Welcome, Coppa!
You and Tim were lot of fun to look at. Tim now has to play the long game, and I can maybe see him make it, if he just plays the cards right.
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Post by Splinter on Jan 25, 2016 13:05:12 GMT -8
I wonder if he will try though, he's said before he would probably surrender at this point
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Post by Coppanuva on Jan 25, 2016 13:05:15 GMT -8
Hi guys I had fun splinter! Just wanted to let that out there. All the crazy info and deciding how to give it out was a blast. As frustrating as endgame became, I still had a blast with it. Scum is fun to play.
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Post by Splinter on Jan 25, 2016 13:06:07 GMT -8
Glad you enjoyed it Coppa! I'm just mad I messed up your powers, game could have gone so differently
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Post by Coppanuva on Jan 25, 2016 13:20:56 GMT -8
Eh it's alright. No big deal, it was fun to play and that's what's most important. Glad to see I was playing scum relatively well at first (even if that slipped off later). I really do think the AL component would have worked really well had the cards not fallen the way they did (i.e. no scum there and town gaining KK control), it really was fun and added an extra layer of strategy. Also making the medium not an invincible king might've helped some in that regard. Still had fun Also I hope Tim reads in on the AL and realized it's not completely lost. He has a mountain ahead of him but really nobody there is suspicious of him. Also Splinter I wasn't clear on this, but could a tracker see one of the Islander-Scums use Banish or were we worried for nothing? I hope he continues going because if he somehow wins this he can get ScumMVP for life.
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Post by Splinter on Jan 25, 2016 13:22:37 GMT -8
Banish is safe, I didn't even bother recording who you chose to execute it
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Post by Coppanuva on Jan 25, 2016 13:26:45 GMT -8
Banish is safe, I didn't even bother recording who you chose to execute it Ohh that's a relief then! Awesome. Also I really do think Town should be killing all the switchers right now. It's clearly fucking with the surviving town wayyy too much since it literally means nothing. Maybe it's just because I knew how futile all of that was, but they really should've analyzed and thought about how there's no proof of any actually useful powers existing (and also realized that if nobody was claiming protect, and there were like 4 switches they knew about, the chances that the kill was blocked were super low). Oh well, hopefully they let the switchers live on for more chaos and confusion! #SwitcherOrgy was the most successful thing about scumteam.
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Post by Burbeting on Jan 25, 2016 13:27:02 GMT -8
So is Tim going to keep on? The Island is already getting dangerously close with "Cabot, Corn or Tim".
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Post by Splinter on Jan 25, 2016 13:28:08 GMT -8
Scum switch: Bombay, Cabot Scum switch: Coppa, Corn [BESTOWs happen] Switch1: Tim, Roy Switch2: Cabot, Coppa Switch3: Tim, Bombay Switch4: Roy, Corn Corn TRACK Coppa Bombay TRACK Cabot Crimson WATCH Czar uhh Oh yeah, here it is Coppa. That last WATCH took me a while to figure out
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