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Post by Cherry Bomb on Jan 9, 2016 18:38:34 GMT -8
Ah, getting cheeky, are we luv? What are you afraid of, Castamere? Is something making your blood run cold, hmm? Only the thought of such a beauty being cast into the pits of Hell. Ah, very cheeky indeed. Unfortunately it'll take more than that to wipe your slate clean, luv. Maybe it's just time-specific like he can't reveal X until Day Y or something like that Try not to give him avenues for escape in case he doesn't have our best interests in mind, luv. He's slippery enough as-is. |
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Post by Sorian on Jan 9, 2016 18:39:18 GMT -8
Sorry if I missed a post from you earlier? The only person I'm really suspicious of is Sorian, but it's less because I find his posting unhelpful to town and more because of the whole resurrection thing. I'm not sure what LoC is playing at either. I don't see how his behavior could help town, but I could see it lining up with some other neutral win condition. This is more of a general question to people doubting Sorian, but what do you think happen? I guess more specifically what is bothering you about his story and why? We know that Sorian died and resurrected. His cause of death interestingly enough wasn't a mod kill, but we don't know what it was for sure. For what it's worth this is what the fluff says: As to how he got extra information I think Xam is onto something with spirits. From the role PM alone we read of spirit animals and evil spirits. I don't see it as that much of a leap of faith that Sorian's role enables him to see the spirit world which gave him some extra info. ------------ If it seems like I think Sorian is super town, that's not the point. I just found the objections to be a little vague and want them fleshed out a bit. If Sorian is hiding something; what is it and why is he hiding it? The main thing I'm hiding is just where my information came from. Obviously, I got it while I was dead but I'm not allowed to say anything in particular about what I had access to during that time. |
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Post by xamtheking on Jan 9, 2016 18:39:23 GMT -8
Maybe it's just time-specific like he can't reveal X until Day Y or something like that Try not to give him avenues for escape in case he doesn't have our best interests in mind, luv. He's slippery enough as-is. I concede the point to the last umbran |
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Post by Sorian on Jan 9, 2016 18:41:40 GMT -8
Maybe it's just time-specific like he can't reveal X until Day Y or something like that Try not to give him avenues for escape in case he doesn't have our best interests in mind, luv. He's slippery enough as-is. Don't worry, anything I can say, I've already said. There is no special time restriction. |
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Post by Ty4on on Jan 9, 2016 18:50:24 GMT -8
You take one little day nap and wake up to like 500 posts. Xam is fluffy, but it seems to me to be more of the redhood variety than scum. Not really too suspicious of him as is. In Heist we had people saying that Red was Xamlike. I feel the same way though, he reminds me of how he was acting in Woof. Do you still think he is town? While it could still go any way with LoC and Scrafty; Xam has four votes currently. If I town-read him I'd at the very least tell town why. |
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Post by Sawneeks on Jan 9, 2016 18:59:47 GMT -8
I feel like I should, again, caution against a double lynch on day 1. Putting aside that fact that scum can manipulate that very easily if they really want to, day 1 is still a crap shoot. This has been a productive day 1 but that doesn't change the fact that all lynch targets are just calculated guesses at best, the odds are astronomically high that we just end up with two dead town. While I want both LoC and Scrafty thrown into the volcano I don't want us to use the double vote today just for them, just for that margin of error of where we are wrong and both are Town. Saving it for Day 2 or even 3 seems like the safest thing to do, at least until after we start getting info from Night shenanigans and role flips. Gives us a much more concrete chance of hitting scum. Ah, getting cheeky, are we luv? What are you afraid of, Castamere? Is something making your blood run cold, hmm? Only the thought of such a beauty being cast into the pits of Hell. Who do you want to sacrifice today then? Hmm... Hyperactivity or Lone Prodigy. In the end though, there's not much to draw from. Any smart scum wouldn't be posting right now. Why post when so many are inactive for the weekend? Why Hyper and L_P? What makes them stick out to you? Scum are certainly hiding in the middle to low post count range, wouldn't be surprised if most of them are there right now actually. With 31 people in the game they have a pretty good chance to blend. |
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Post by LordofCastamere on Jan 9, 2016 19:12:09 GMT -8
I feel like I should, again, caution against a double lynch on day 1. Putting aside that fact that scum can manipulate that very easily if they really want to, day 1 is still a crap shoot. This has been a productive day 1 but that doesn't change the fact that all lynch targets are just calculated guesses at best, the odds are astronomically high that we just end up with two dead town. While I want both LoC and Scrafty thrown into the volcano I don't want us to use the double vote today just for them, just for that margin of error of where we are wrong and both are Town. Saving it for Day 2 or even 3 seems like the safest thing to do, at least until after we start getting info from Night shenanigans and role flips. Gives us a much more concrete chance of hitting scum. Only the thought of such a beauty being cast into the pits of Hell. Hmm... Hyperactivity or Lone Prodigy. In the end though, there's not much to draw from. Any smart scum wouldn't be posting right now. Why post when so many are inactive for the weekend? Why Hyper and L_P? What makes them stick out to you? Scum are certainly hiding in the middle to low post count range, wouldn't be surprised if most of them are there right now actually. With 31 people in the game they have a pretty good chance to blend. I settled on Kawl. A perfect candidate for low activity scum. No votes. Light observations. Nothing to rock the boat. I'm feeling pretty good about it actually. If I had a one shot kill, I'd kill him tonight. |
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Post by Sawneeks on Jan 9, 2016 19:21:21 GMT -8
Actually I want to hear from the Xam voters, particularly Roy, Kalor, and Ultron. To be honest all four of your guy's reasons for voting are either weak ( Roy, Ultron, Scrafty ) or simply nonexistent ( Kalor ) and I want to know why the 3 of you haven't shifted your votes or expanded upon why you're voting Xam. Kalor: I find it odd everyone just kind of let you off the hook after your earlier mistake and since that time you have quickly faded into the background. I want to know who you find Scummy, who you want to vote out today and why, and your thoughts on Sorian. Ultron: Another poster who has faded to the background, also with a weak vote on Xam. Same questions as Kalor: who do you find scummy and who do you want to vote out today? Why vote Xam on 'fluff' by the way?Seems like an easy vote to put out and get your name out of the 'No Current Vote' group. Roy: You and Scrafty are doing the same 'well X is suspicious but let me vote over here instead' thing and I still don't like it. Not to mention a lot of fluff talk followed by a bunch of discussions on mechanics of the game but not a whole lot of Scum hunting. Which is odd, because I thought that was Town!Roy's favorite pass time and I'm not seeing that here. So 'Town!Roy', who do you want lynched today and why? Also why the current Xam vote? I settled on Kawl. A perfect candidate for low activity scum. No votes. Light observations. Nothing to rock the boat. I'm feeling pretty good about it actually. If I had a one shot kill, I'd kill him tonight. Hmmm, not gonna lie I don't really have a read on him right now. It's really odd considering after HP where I had him as Town by the end of Day 1. Going to have to look into that. |
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Post by ultron87 on Jan 9, 2016 19:24:21 GMT -8
Sparring with Sorian is fading into the background? Okay.
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Post by cornb on Jan 9, 2016 19:26:00 GMT -8
Kind of seems weird how you aren't allowed to mention certain things about the deadplane, but are allowed to outright state that you are forbidden from talking about it.
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Post by Swamped on Jan 9, 2016 19:36:22 GMT -8
So Coppa, Pop and Launch haven't posted yet so I have no reads on them and will not vote for them this day phase.
Quiet players who are slipping under my radar this day phase include: Dusk, Trigger, L_P (although my previous experience with him indicates that's he's always a little on the quiet side, but full of witty quips when he does talk lol), Karu and Terra. And I know for sure that at least a few Evil Spirits have to be taking the low activity route, given that there are probably a fair few of them and not all of them are going to be talkative.
Most of the other players I can at least remember something they did or said.
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Post by xamtheking on Jan 9, 2016 19:54:31 GMT -8
So Coppa, Pop and Launch haven't posted yet so I have no reads on them and will not vote for them this day phase. Quiet players who are slipping under my radar this day phase include: Dusk, Trigger, L_P (although my previous experience with him indicates that's he's always a little on the quiet side, but full of witty quips when he does talk lol), Karu and Terra. And I know for sure that at least a few Evil Spirits have to be taking the low activity route, given that there are probably a fair few of them and not all of them are going to be talkative. Most of the other players I can at least remember something they did or said. Coppa has D1 Immunity because he is off fucking bitches and making money (Note: That is a joke. He has D1 Immunity but I don't know what he does in his free time. He is probably a well-respected individual.) |
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Post by Sawneeks on Jan 9, 2016 19:56:05 GMT -8
Sparring with Sorian is fading into the background? Okay. If you mean the 4 posts where you call out Sorian on his role not making sense, then yes. Half of your posts are either nothing, a weak Xam vote, or this hand waving answer while the other half is your argument. You never discuss why you voted Xam, you never elaborate on it further, and then you just pop and call Sorian a liar and then leave. Try again, this time with an explanation for that Xam vote please. |
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Post by LordofCastamere on Jan 9, 2016 19:58:55 GMT -8
So Coppa, Pop and Launch haven't posted yet so I have no reads on them and will not vote for them this day phase. Quiet players who are slipping under my radar this day phase include: Dusk, Trigger, L_P (although my previous experience with him indicates that's he's always a little on the quiet side, but full of witty quips when he does talk lol), Karu and Terra. And I know for sure that at least a few Evil Spirits have to be taking the low activity route, given that there are probably a fair few of them and not all of them are going to be talkative. Most of the other players I can at least remember something they did or said. Coppa has D1 Immunity because he is off fucking bitches and making money (Note: That is a joke. He has D1 Immunity but I don't know what he does in his free time. He is probably a well-respected individual.) Too late, head canon established. Coppa now = Seto Kaiba |
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Post by xamtheking on Jan 9, 2016 20:00:13 GMT -8
Coppa has D1 Immunity because he is off fucking bitches and making money (Note: That is a joke. He has D1 Immunity but I don't know what he does in his free time. He is probably a well-respected individual.) Too late, head canon established. Coppa now = Seto Kaiba I like you |
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Post by Sawneeks on Jan 9, 2016 20:03:36 GMT -8
So Coppa, Pop and Launch haven't posted yet so I have no reads on them and will not vote for them this day phase. Quiet players who are slipping under my radar this day phase include: Dusk, Trigger, L_P (although my previous experience with him indicates that's he's always a little on the quiet side, but full of witty quips when he does talk lol), Karu and Terra. And I know for sure that at least a few Evil Spirits have to be taking the low activity route, given that there are probably a fair few of them and not all of them are going to be talkative. Most of the other players I can at least remember something they did or said. To be fair both Pop and Launch ( AND Blarg/Nin ) are still in FF Mafia which is in it's Day phase right now. Coppa I believe is either on vacation or travelling? Either way he wasn't going to be here until Sunday night but Splinter gave him a pass until he gets back. |
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Post by ultron87 on Jan 9, 2016 20:07:28 GMT -8
If you mean the 4 posts where you call out Sorian on his role not making sense, then yes. Half of your posts are either nothing, a weak Xam vote, or this hand waving answer while the other half is your argument. You never discuss why you voted Xam, you never elaborate on it further, and then you just pop and call Sorian a liar and then leave. Try again, this time with an explanation for that Xam vote please. Sorry for engaging with the most interesting claim of the day so far. My explanation was right there with the vote. Don't need a bunch of extra nothing posts from Xam in a 30 person game. I'll probably change it tomorrow. |
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Post by crimsonfist on Jan 9, 2016 20:08:54 GMT -8
In Heist we had people saying that Red was Xamlike. I feel the same way though, he reminds me of how he was acting in Woof. Do you still think he is town? While it could still go any way with LoC and Scrafty; Xam has four votes currently. If I town-read him I'd at the very least tell town why. I've given my reasons, but to elaborate more: Xam is playing pretty much the same way he did in Woof, which is to say posting a lot, quite a bit of it dumb stuff, but at least trying to be fairly relevant to the game most of the time. But also in a way that ends up making him an easy lynch target, because a lot of it is pretty dumb. When he was scum, he was much more restrained, aside from when the opportunity arose to just go completely off topic. |
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Post by crimsonfist on Jan 9, 2016 20:15:44 GMT -8
LoC, I don't like your breadcrumbing. You claim that scum won't target you tonight, and that you'll reveal the reasons tomorrow, presumably after your partner has found you. Why should I trust that this will be in town's benefit? If you're so certain that scum won't kill you, then why can't you tell use the reasons for your actions today?
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Post by LordofCastamere on Jan 9, 2016 20:22:00 GMT -8
We're gonna party tonight, right? Should I start gathering wood for the bonfire or... LoC, I don't like your breadcrumbing. You claim that scum won't target you tonight, and that you'll reveal the reasons tomorrow, presumably after your partner has found you. Why should I trust that this will be in town's benefit? If you're so certain that scum won't kill you, then why can't you tell use the reasons for your actions today? Telling you want I know would hurt town. It's difficult to elaborate, but all will probably be revealed tomorrow. Look at the bigger picture. |
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Post by LordofCastamere on Jan 9, 2016 20:27:37 GMT -8
Everything I do is for a reason. What may not be clear today, will be clear tomorrow. Lynching me today only gets you some of my answers. Remember that.
Patience is all I ask. Time heals everything. Even ignorance.
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Post by Swamped on Jan 9, 2016 20:37:10 GMT -8
I for one am willing to give LoC a chance, but only if he corrects the spelling of 'Goddess'. Not only is he entertaining, he is drawing too much attention to himself to be scum. If he's a lost partner then I doubt he would have any credible information for us on D2, and we should be able to make out if he's lying.
Was re-reading Hyper because I initially Island-read him from his early posts. He seems very wary of Sorian, and was one of the first to be (From my memory, haven't checked back to confirm). Kind of a risky stance for scum to take if others are not of the same opinion.
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Post by LordofCastamere on Jan 9, 2016 21:06:01 GMT -8
I for one am willing to give LoC a chance, but only if he corrects the spelling of 'Goddess'. Not only is he entertaining, he is drawing too much attention to himself to be scum. If he's a lost partner then I doubt he would have any credible information for us on D2, and we should be able to make out if he's lying. Reason prevails. Though you may not like my answers tomorrow... Reality is sometimes harsh and cruel... |
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Post by Swamped on Jan 9, 2016 21:26:04 GMT -8
^ Also, I think you mean 'woo' LoC XD
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Post by Blargonaut on Jan 9, 2016 22:13:28 GMT -8
Reason prevails. Though you may not like my answers tomorrow... Reality is sometimes harsh and cruel...I'll postpone my judgement |
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Post by squidyj on Jan 9, 2016 22:19:23 GMT -8
why don't I know anything about dusk soldier?
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Post by Sorian on Jan 9, 2016 23:26:51 GMT -8
Kind of seems weird how you aren't allowed to mention certain things about the deadplane, but are allowed to outright state that you are forbidden from talking about it. Yeah, it was a nice change from my posting restriction in NX. At least here I can acknowledge my posting restriction. why don't I know anything about dusk soldier? Because all he has done is respond to my RNG vote from the beginning of the game. Otherwise, I think he has been pot shots here and there. |
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Post by Bombay on Jan 9, 2016 23:56:06 GMT -8
So, who are all the players who've admitted to having information and withholding it? Sorian, LoC, Xam?
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Post by LordofCastamere on Jan 10, 2016 0:26:49 GMT -8
So, who are all the players who've admitted to having information and withholding it? Sorian, LoC, Xam? Everyone. |
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Post by nin1000 on Jan 10, 2016 0:40:06 GMT -8
So, who are all the players who've admitted to having information and withholding it? Sorian, LoC, Xam? Everyone.  |
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