Then when you claim, reveal that 4 people received a message last night. Watch the way the people were respond, because if those 4 deny it, either they are scum/neutral, their givers were scum, or maybe some interference occurred.

IF town doesn't believe your claim, have them lynch you day 3 so that they receive your role PM and know you were telling the truth

I have some things I have to take care of but when I get back I'll post a write up on Sorian and why he is full of BS. In the meantime though:

Kalor: You might end up being my final vote. I'm still not convinced you aren't Scum and I haven't seen enough from you to really sway my opinion.

Blarg/Pop: Anything from either would be really appreciated. I'm not one to like voting out inactives but I'm tempted to get you guys out just so we can thin the player count.

The Ghost House feat. Roy: Seeing as Roy is probably going to be up and roleclaiming before most of us are awake I feel like we need to reach a verdict on what we think he should do. I know a couple of us have given our thoughts earlier but now that Ridli has outed the Medium into the open we might need to rethink our stance.

If Roy decides to claim now he would have Ridli backing him up which would help his claim and clear a potential Townie. Not to mention Ridli has kept quiet about the 'negatives' of the Medium role, a smart play to make sure any claimed Medium would be telling the truth or not by simply asking for these conditions. This would also clear Roy ( sorry, I never trust anyone in these games 100% ;__; ) because I doubt he and Ridli would collude together in such a way because that would be a really complex lie over two threads. Roy could also bring up how ludicrous he and Ridli working together sounds because if anyone claims "Hey! They could be working together!" he could simply point out that why would Scum risk two players in order to save one this early in the game? On the downside this paints a huge target on Roy's back and it might get him killed or this could completely backfire and get him lynched. Both bad scenarios as we may end up without a Medium anymore.

If Roy doesn't claim this will most likely get Ridli lynched as no alternative suspects have popped up and Roy still has a high chance of being Night Killed, meaning he leaves the main thread without helping Town know of this place. 

For what it's worth I think Roy should claim and should try and shift the vote over to Sorian. I will explain why when I get back and make my super post.

brb

Meanwhile, have this wild and now largely discounted theory that I had somewhat expressed with my haiku while I was alive; that scum's spirit animals are predator types, and Town's spirit animals are prey types, and that Investigative Roles know this distinction and come up with something like 'Your target is a predator/prey/looks hungry/looks tasty' or something like that after using their ability on someone

HOWEVER, Mr. Castamere's having flipped as a Snake/predator-type despite being Town-aligned, after his being modkilled, mostly discredits all this now, so

yeah

Despite this, I'm still tentatively willing to subscribe to the newsletter of we're all somehow categorized into factions?? some secret meta thing?? by something like species, or size. And I don't think these spirit animals of ours are entirely meaningless.

Maybe, they act as flavourful hints as to what a player's newfound powers will be upon death and entrance into the Afterlife (thread)?

Like, the Snake would have become an x-shot Poison power BESTOWER, or something like that?

More to come.

Okay, gonna start that work on the 'Why Sorian is a Huge Liar' 4 part novel in a bit.

If that's the case then it's not happening to everyone, my animal doesn't correspond with my new role at all.

For the animals I'm really not sure what they are. Maybe they are just for an SK/Neutral win condition? Or somehow a few PRs are tied to animals?? Until we get some more flips I can't really be sure.

So I had this idea about Sorian and how he is a lying Neutral and how we should lynch him yadda yadda etc.



And then my main point I was going to use against him, this thread, turns out it isn’t evidence at all. If you notice the first three posts in this thread by Splinter are actually on different days. This thread was created on the 7th, Sorian ‘died’ on the 8th, and then the important rules posts ( which contain most of the info about this place ) is on the 10th. This means that if Sorian did die and come here then all the info he claims to have received he either lied about or he actually got from somewhere else.



The only post Sorian would have seen, the first post in this thread, gives away nothing at all. The entire premise of my novel, ruined. :(



But if you guys will entertain me for a second, I need to muse about some things.



What Sorian claims:



-He knew he was going to die at the start. ( gafia.boards.net/post/16584 )

-Dies because he broke the ‘no pre-made post rule’ ( gafia.boards.net/post/16810 ) However, he then claims his death trigger after 3 posts, not because he broke the ‘Sorian no pre-made posts’ rule. ( gafia.boards.net/post/17339 )

-Killing him via lynch won’t give out information, meaning no PR upon death? ( gafia.boards.net/post/16846 )

-His second death will be ‘more interesting’. A threat, perhaps? ( gafia.boards.net/post/16861 )

-” There are multiple Scum Factions, Spirit Animals are in large groupings, DON’T talk about your spirit animal” ( gafia.boards.net/post/17083 )

-The ‘hmmmm’ to LoC’s quote makes it seem he knows about this place or at least knows death isn’t the end. ( gafia.boards.net/post/17102 )

-This one is interesting. Earlier he claims he found a post while dead that showed who the Mystery Gafia Star was. ( gafia.boards.net/post/16800 ) Yet later on he says in a response to Roy that guessing who the Star was was actually very easy, meaning he lied about gleaming that bit of info while dead. ( gafia.boards.net/post/17182 )

-Town-read Ridli on Day 1. ( outergafia.com/post/17565 ) ( outergafia.com/post/17640 )

-Claims he will leave a role PM on death, claims his info comes from somewhere else. ( outergafia.com/post/17642 ) ( outergafia.com/post/17747 )

-Hints at seeing someplace, thinks more people will see it eventually?? DID he come here? ( outergafia.com/post/17757 )

-”You guys who can die permantely” ( outergafia.com/post/18160 ) Sorian did come back to life but it’s still weird.

-Asks only to be killed by Scum. ( outergafia.com/post/18323 )









Thoughts:



-Sorian continuously claims that Spirit Animals are important, yet almost all the people who hinted at animals did not die during Night 1. The only obvious one I remember who died is Blarg, but wouldn’t Scum focus on killing the animals if they were that important?

-He actively tries to downplay his death and resurrection. He reallly doesn’t want people to talk about it. ( gafia.boards.net/post/17026 )

-Fun Fact: If you filter the main thread to only show Sorian's posts he already has 8 pages for himself. #scumtell





After skimming his posts I’m still not quite sure about him but I’m willing to sit firmly on Neutral right now. He obviously died and came back to life but I can’t accurately tell if he came here or went somewhere else for his ‘info’. It could be he is straight up lying about his ‘info’ like LoC was, although the reason behind that is completely unknown to me and doesn’t make sense to lie about.



While I don’t agree with his actions today, after reading it again I think he ( and everyone else ) are just reacting to the moment and are trying to overcome the sudden lack of info and loss of players. They’re latching on to whatever pops up and going from there, hence Ridli and Xam being the hot topic.

I wake up, feel a bit under the weather, and then read this thread with everyone freaking out. Can't a poor medium just be sick in peace?

tbh, it would be 3-5  given prsand stuff

its to be safe, not have people screw up

Oh, yes. I did search for Pop, but literally nothing popped (heh) up and I believe *Splinter was maybe looking into getting a replacement for him, so I left him out for now.
In regards to there being 30 players, fair enough. Hope it won't be last minute, though.

with the absence of anything else to go on, my vote for banishment stays on Pop-O-Matic. He has not posted in this thread yet.

As far as our Island vote, I think we should stay away from Sorian, mainly because I think he would distract us in the afterlife.

We either need to vote on who we think is most scummy, or who we think would be most beneficial to helping us FIND scum in the afterlife.

So how possible is it that we have another massive island death ball happen tonight?

We've got a vote, and I'm sure scum have a kill. How many do we think was just RNG to fill in the afterlife?

Put me also in the "I doubt it"-camp. Our kill. Lynch Kill. Scum night kill + 1 possible Power Kill? That are still 3 or 4 newcomers, but yeah. 

Sure, but why? It would put at least some attention on me, and for very little gain. Town knowing/ thinking about that doesn't really help us.

The deadline is today right? I still have my vote on Blargonaut, and he has promised more posts about the game proceedings so I feel bad keeping my vote there...

I won't vote for Pop either because he hasn't posted at all and might even get replaced.

I'm finding this really difficult because I implicitly trust you all, it's like we're war veterans together. And honestly, not really seeing obviously scummy behavior from anyone here.

I was thinking about Kalor but the one thing about him that makes me think he's town is that he still believes Scrafty in the main game is town. I would classify this as a 'controversial' opinion, and I think that scum would have revised their opinion of Scrafty given that she has been getting a decent amount of suspicion, so scum would want to blend in (or bus, depending on Scrafty's alignment). I admit this isn't much though, but between him and Blarg I'd probably vote Blarg (sorry buddy!)

I looked at Karu as well. Mostly talk about mechanics and prodding a low activity player (L_P). I think his posts have been protown. Is he faking it though? Prodding a low activity player is a pretty easy thing for scum to do.

Ugh, this is so difficult...

I'll keep my vote on Blargy-boy for now, I'll have time to change it if needed in a couple of hours. Possibly to Karu.