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Post by Sawneeks on Jan 12, 2016 14:19:57 GMT -8
Hmmm. I'm feeling like Ridli is Town, a really frustrated Townie, but I think he's fine. Gut feeling. As much as I really really love reads lists I'm going to withhold mine for the time being. We may end up overloading someone with powers but we still don't know if Scum can chat with their team or not and if they still can they can just relay who might be getting the most powers and target that person for a kill. Until we get a confirmed Scum flip here and figure out if they have a secret chat or not I'm not risking it. How do you feel about Roy now then, after everything that has happened so far? Same with Scrafty and I would also like a read on Sorian and Nin. Well, with the recent developments with Roy being able to post here I'm more inclined to believe that he is town now. Being able to view and post in this thread would be a weird scum power though it could be neutral. I've been split on Sorian but at this point I'm inclined to believe that he might be acting in town's interest. Scrafty I still think is town but I would need to look at her posts again. Nin hasn't stuck out much to me but the way he's responded to some stuff has been odd. For the bolded: how so? He is tunneling pretty hard on easy lynches and has hand-waved away multiple discussions without giving concrete explanations. I've seen little-to-no pro-town actions from him today. I do agree with you on Nin though. I have not played with him before but his actions are very strange. Oh shit I didn't even realize that and now a bunch of things make sense. The multiple Scum factions actually does make sense if you consider that the main thread doesn't realize this one exists, meaning they wouldn't know of the other Scum here hence the 'multiple teams'. That also means Sorian's claim of 'never actually dying' makes a whole lot more sense too, because he would die, come here, and if we don't banish him I'm assuming he go back to the main thread. Only real question is his alignment. I want to believe Neutral because of yesterday and if he actually did end up here for a brief period of time it would explain his information. What doesn't add up is his theory about 'Scum recruitment', something never hinted at here in the OP and it makes me think he was able to be recruited and hinted by suggesting that. After his actions today I would almost go as far to say they were successful in their recruiting attempts lol. Are you talking about Sorian's alignment or Roy's Alignment? I think if Sorian had actually been sent here, he would have posted something. It's possible he saw the thread and went back to the island, but I am unsure. Sorian could be any alignment. I think Roy is Town for the reason I already stated, and the fact that he is not even hinting at anything in thread. I'm talking about Sorian's alignment. He may not have posted anything though, he was only dead for a short amount of time and probably realized this pace would fill up with people at some point and didn't want to give anything away. It's pure speculation but considering he mentioned 'going somewhere' to find his info he probably means here unless there is yet another secret thread out there. So, a formal introduction is in order: Hi, I am Roytheone, and I will be your medium for the coming days! I hope you will be satisfied with my services! I also saw zipped post that his ordinary town theory is now out the window. Well, actually, no. I was an ordinary town on day 1. However, last night I was visited by the volcano god himself, and he offered me a choice: He could make me a medium, but with two caveats: 1) I would become a Miller 2) I will die after three days (so at the end of day 12) If I had refused the deal, it would have been offered to another player the following night. Clearly, I didn't refuse :) Huh, interesting. Well, welcome to the spooky funhouse party! We're a much better crowd than those weird main thread people. :p For a roleclaim though... I'm not sure. With first Xam and now Ridli, everyone seems to be really up in arms against people role claiming so I don't know if yours will be taken well at all. It would also lead to a ton of disbelief ( another thread? don't actually die? pfffffft ) and it would be really hard to confirm any of this. I'm also not sure what telling the main thread would accomplish overall either because once the confusion of a separate thread settles down I'm not sure what we have here can be used for Town's benefit at the moment. Claiming now just seems to paint a target on your back and add to even more confusion than there already is. If we end up flipping a Scum here it would be beneficial for them to know who it was but we don't have that info just yet. I don't know, it's a weird situation. Claiming might be good because a Doc could help you out but it could also get you lynched/get a bigger target on you. |
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Post by Sawneeks on Jan 12, 2016 14:23:24 GMT -8
Hey Guys! I'm not gonna lie, I have no idea what's going on right now so...let me read this thread and I'll get back to you. Welcome! Have fun reading through the thread(s). But if you don't want to read them: tl;dr you died, sorry. :( |
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Post by Roytheone on Jan 12, 2016 14:33:16 GMT -8
Huh, interesting. Well, welcome to the spooky funhouse party! We're a much better crowd than those weird main thread people.  For a roleclaim though... I'm not sure. With first Xam and now Ridli, everyone seems to be really up in arms against people role claiming so I don't know if yours will be taken well at all. It would also lead to a ton of disbelief ( another thread? don't actually die? pfffffft ) and it would be really hard to confirm any of this. I'm also not sure what telling the main thread would accomplish overall either because once the confusion of a separate thread settles down I'm not sure what we have here can be used for Town's benefit at the moment. Claiming now just seems to paint a target on your back and add to even more confusion than there already is. If we end up flipping a Scum here it would be beneficial for them to know who it was but we don't have that info just yet. I don't know, it's a weird situation. Claiming might be good because a Doc could help you out but it could also get you lynched/get a bigger target on you. Convincing town could be hard, but I think the bestow could help there. There is no way for a normal person to know people will get bestowed with powers, so that will confirm me. Also, remember I am allowed to copy text of you guys directly. So if any of you guys have an idea how I could convince town that would be great! Maybe something only one of you could know? |
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Post by MagnumBoy20xx on Jan 12, 2016 14:49:18 GMT -8
Hey Guys! I'm not gonna lie, I have no idea what's going on right now so...let me read this thread and I'll get back to you. Welcome! Have fun reading through the thread(s). But if you don't want to read them: tl;dr you died, sorry.  Thanks! I found out about my "death" in my role pm. I was able to catch up to this thread fairly easily, the main thread however...I don't think I'll be able to do it. Now to comment on Roy's situation, I would hold off of claiming for the moment. The main reason is that we don't know just yet that when the town lynches someone that their role won't be revealed. If they do still get revealed, then we could pretty much just banish them like that. It would also give town an advantage, as we would eccentially be a dead Mason thread. Granted the roles could potentially not be revealed to prevent that, and we might already have scum here, but for at least this day phase I would hold off claiming for now. |
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Post by zippedpinhead on Jan 12, 2016 14:50:58 GMT -8
I've got an idea, We "bestow" on three people.
Roy claims that one of those three people got a bestowing from the great beyond.
All three of them think they are the only one that got one
confusion...
& Profit!
this is not a serious idea...
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Post by zippedpinhead on Jan 12, 2016 14:52:50 GMT -8
Oh no I edited.
Be merciful Volcano god! I only added the last line about the joke...
Serious talk, Roy don't claim until day three (right before you die).
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Post by Splinter on Jan 12, 2016 14:55:55 GMT -8
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Post by Roytheone on Jan 12, 2016 14:58:40 GMT -8
Yeah, I will not claim if you guys don't want to tell the main thread anything yet anyway. However, I am still a Miller, so I ask of you guys:
think about things that you know and could tell me that would let me confirm my role if needed,for example if I get investigated. Things like knowing who got bestowed with what could get me out of a jam. Of course, don't post that info if it isn't needed, but have it at the ready.
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Post by zippedpinhead on Jan 12, 2016 15:09:50 GMT -8
Yeah, I will not claim if you guys don't want to tell the main thread anything yet anyway. However, I am still a Miller, so I ask of you guys: think about things that you know and could tell me that would let me confirm my role if needed,for example if I get investigated. Things like knowing who got bestowed with what could get me out of a jam. Of course, don't post that info if it isn't needed, but have it at the ready. That sounds reasonable. We can bestow a given save to a specific person, but that person would have to be liked and respected by the islanders. And right now they hate each other. actually that's a great idea. We could give you a list of all the people who got bestowed abilities. that would serve two purposes 1: any Liars would have to be on two levels. Either dead scum might lie (but we could figure that out) or alive scum are lying after receiving an ability from a dead townie( dead scum would probably bestow on live scum, and they would have no reason to lie about an ability in that situation). We could banish an afterlife liar, and then kill the alive liar if the afterlife person wasn't lying 2: it would give you credibility (but still don't tell them about your death in three nights until you are almost dead) |
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Post by MagnumBoy20xx on Jan 12, 2016 15:13:18 GMT -8
Yeah, I will not claim if you guys don't want to tell the main thread anything yet anyway. However, I am still a Miller, so I ask of you guys: think about things that you know and could tell me that would let me confirm my role if needed,for example if I get investigated. Things like knowing who got bestowed with what could get me out of a jam. Of course, don't post that info if it isn't needed, but have it at the ready. You said that you could quote us and copy paste what we said in the main thread right? I have a few ideas,but the question that must be answered is this: how meta are we allowed to be? Let's say that Roy makes a post in the main gafia thread on GAF saying something like "owls are the best bird" and I do a quick reply(not a quote) saying "Roy speaks the truth". I then make a post in this thread with a link to that post say that this is a confirmation of what Roy is saying in the main VI (that this thread exsists, he's a medium etc) and he quotes and pasted it as a message from me. Would something like that be allowed? |
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Post by Roytheone on Jan 12, 2016 15:18:14 GMT -8
A list of bestows will definitely help me get credibility and find liars! Of course, making that list will require our ghost pr to reveal themselves, so I would say keep it at the ready, but don't openly post it until needed. MagnumBoy20xx waaaaaaaaaaaaay to meta. That's modkill level of meta. |
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Post by Splinter on Jan 12, 2016 15:23:28 GMT -8
Keep game talk in the game thread please |
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Post by karu on Jan 12, 2016 15:25:40 GMT -8
Well, the bestowed Players will know what's up either way, no? Depending on how many of us have a Bestow-Power that could be quite the number. What I'm worried about is Scum knowing about this place in detail, though (assuming they don't already). Dieing in the main thread will have less consequence, there is still a - albeit smaller - chance on winning the game here, depending which and how many Player don't flip while dying. Worst case (as in "It might be a distant possibility in the grand scheme of things"): Roy is scum - or a neutral for that matter - and the (maybe fake) Miller a potential shield which is both convienient to sell here and useful back in the main thread. Since he's already in danger as he stated, the 3-Day buffer buys him enough time. I don't think this is true. But it underlines the importance of examining the power of a potential claim. Right now I lean... claim before the gist is up. If possible Scum has to Die by a flip to ease our own job. Players killed by Powers that won't make it easier. But when I think about it, Town has to hunt Scum either way and they can't just not use their potential special Kill-Powers because of this. Not speaking of Scum getting a few of their own people in here by choice (which sounds stupid and risky, but whatever. What really is the benefit? Ehhhhhh. As you can see, I'm not sure about either way.  What irks me: We have to kill every Scum basically twice, tedious! |
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Post by Roytheone on Jan 12, 2016 15:25:54 GMT -8
Going to sleep, would love to hear ideas from the other ghosts here about my situation, a lot of you haven't chimed in yet!
But don't forget the banish vote! That discussion seems to have gotten sidetracked, but it is still important!
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Post by MagnumBoy20xx on Jan 12, 2016 15:29:08 GMT -8
A list of bestows will definitely help me get credibility and find liars! Of course, making that list will require our ghost pr to reveal themselves, so I would say keep it at the ready, but don't openly post it until needed. MagnumBoy20xx waaaaaaaaaaaaay to meta. That's modkill level of meta. *shrug* it was worth a shot. Bestow list would definitely be the way to go, as it would pretty much confirm your claim. |
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Post by karu on Jan 12, 2016 15:29:35 GMT -8
A list of bestows will definitely help me get credibility and find liars! Of course, making that list will require our ghost pr to reveal themselves, so I would say keep it at the ready, but don't openly post it until needed. MagnumBoy20xx waaaaaaaaaaaaay to meta. That's modkill level of meta. Do we assume we can get banished in here other than by Vote? Because other wise, an entire claim by everyone does... nothing, right? (I don't want to bait, this is an honest question, especially in regards to your all feelings towards the first point (Other options to banish us by scum/neutrals)?) |
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Post by Sawneeks on Jan 12, 2016 15:37:52 GMT -8
Just as a general heads up, I noticed that the Bestow command works on anyone, including Scum. Be careful who you give a Power to! Yeah, I will not claim if you guys don't want to tell the main thread anything yet anyway. However, I am still a Miller, so I ask of you guys: think about things that you know and could tell me that would let me confirm my role if needed,for example if I get investigated. Things like knowing who got bestowed with what could get me out of a jam. Of course, don't post that info if it isn't needed, but have it at the ready. Seems fair. I would suggest that the names of those blessed by our ~*~ghostly powers~*~ aren't revealed until Roy needs them, aka if a Cop claims and calls him out. We still don't know what Scum are in this chat or not or if they can communicate to others. A list of bestows will definitely help me get credibility and find liars! Of course, making that list will require our ghost pr to reveal themselves, so I would say keep it at the ready, but don't openly post it until needed. MagnumBoy20xx waaaaaaaaaaaaay to meta. That's modkill level of meta. Considering the sample PM is a PR I thinks it's safe to assume all of us have abilities lol. |
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Post by Sawneeks on Jan 12, 2016 15:39:52 GMT -8
A list of bestows will definitely help me get credibility and find liars! Of course, making that list will require our ghost pr to reveal themselves, so I would say keep it at the ready, but don't openly post it until needed. MagnumBoy20xx waaaaaaaaaaaaay to meta. That's modkill level of meta. Do we assume we can get banished in here other than by Vote? Because other wise, an entire claim by everyone does... nothing, right? (I don't want to bait, this is an honest question, especially in regards to your all feelings towards the first point (Other options to banish us by scum/neutrals)?) It was brought up earlier but since we can affect the main thread players it would probably be safe to assume they have some way of affecting us as well. It's pure speculation however and we won't have any way to tell until after the first Night phase here. |
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Post by Lone_Prodigy on Jan 12, 2016 15:47:18 GMT -8
Roy could just claim Miller now and then Medium later?
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Post by Sawneeks on Jan 12, 2016 15:58:08 GMT -8
Roy could just claim Miller now and then Medium later? Hmmm, it might work? Most people would ask why he didn't claim Day 1 so he could either half-lie and say the Volcano God 'punished' him Night 1 or completely lie and say he wasn't sure he should claim and didn't want to derail on Day 1. He would have to pull some serious work to not get lynched but if Roy can pull it off that might work. In the Miller claim, or even throughout today, he could breadcrumb the medium role ( "Volcano God blessings", "Ghosts or some such", etc. ) so when he finally does end up claiming it would look better. Although this Day phase is running close to the end and claiming Miller now may look really bad as Millers normally claim fairly early on. |
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Post by Sawneeks on Jan 12, 2016 16:20:42 GMT -8
Uh oh, I really hope that person Ridli is thinking about outing isn't Roy..
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Post by karu on Jan 12, 2016 16:27:56 GMT -8
Did he turn down the Power himself, or what? I'm confused. How would he know otherwise - unless he lies, obviously.
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Post by karu on Jan 12, 2016 16:29:52 GMT -8
Yeah, it's Roys Power it has to be, as he talks about clearing up confusion. Welp. Would be interesting to see if anyone else would claim. Would mean Ripli probably is Town, though. Huh.
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Post by Sawneeks on Jan 12, 2016 16:32:32 GMT -8
Yeah, it's Roys Power it has to be, as he talks about clearing up confusion. Welp. Would be interesting to see if anyone else would claim. Would mean Ripli probably is Town, though. Huh. Unless Scum can also be offered the Medium role? It's doubtful but who knows. But yeah, it looks like Ridli turned down the Medium role. Hopefully they don't turbo before Roy wakes up because now is actually a good time to claim as it would clear up Ridli, who looks to be Town, and give Roy a good chance. |
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Post by karu on Jan 12, 2016 16:35:08 GMT -8
Yeah, it's Roys Power it has to be, as he talks about clearing up confusion. Welp. Would be interesting to see if anyone else would claim. Would mean Ripli probably is Town, though. Huh. Unless Scum can also be offered the Medium role? It's doubtful but who knows. Oh yeah, naturally. I wrote/speculated as much in an earlier post an hour ago or so. But... as it's always the case, it's one of the few things we can go on right now. |
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Post by karu on Jan 12, 2016 16:38:44 GMT -8
And there it is... now what?
Roy's gone to bed, maybe some claims it in the meantime? Probably not, would certainly be interesting, though.
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Post by Sawneeks on Jan 12, 2016 16:39:34 GMT -8
Hmm, Roy does it mention what happens when you die? Does another person get offered the Medium role or does it die with you? Unless Scum can also be offered the Medium role? It's doubtful but who knows. Oh yeah, naturally. I wrote/speculated as much in an earlier post an hour ago or so. But... as it's always the case, it's one of the few things we can go on right now. I would give it a really small chance of being offered to Scum though or to even have a Scum accept that Role. For one thing it makes you a Miller ( which Ridli can confirm if he mentions that ) and Scum wouldn't be effected by that and you also die in 3 Days time, something Scum can't afford to do. I'm thinking it might be Town only. |
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Post by Sawneeks on Jan 12, 2016 16:41:16 GMT -8
And there it is... now what? Roy's gone to bed, maybe some claims it in the meantime? Probably not, would certainly be interesting, though. Pray to the Volcano God that they don't turbo. |
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Post by zippedpinhead on Jan 12, 2016 17:10:24 GMT -8
Ridli turned the medium role DOWN?
WTF?
Ok Sorian wasted his post death, because no one was here, he sorta knows what's going on but nothing current. I know because of those little "edited by splinter" points.
So take this as it is.
Has pop posted in the thread yet? I drove home but haven't had a chance to read much more than the last few posts in each thread.
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Post by Sawneeks on Jan 12, 2016 18:48:18 GMT -8
Throwing out an idea but what do you guys think of trying to kill Sorian during the Night phase and bring him here? He is super sketchy as fuck right now and I'm not liking it one bit. Ridli turned the medium role DOWN? WTF? Ok Sorian wasted his post death, because no one was here, he sorta knows what's going on but nothing current. I know because of those little "edited by splinter" points. So take this as it is. Has pop posted in the thread yet? I drove home but haven't had a chance to read much more than the last few posts in each thread. To be honest I would have turned it down as well. No one predicted 9 deaths in the first Night so becoming a Medium with a 3 Day death counter on it seems like a waste if those 3 days were filled with only a few dead people to chat with. And Pop has not been here nor has Blarg after his 'brb' post. I want to hear from both of them before the Day ends. |
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