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Post by Sawneeks on Jan 21, 2016 14:47:21 GMT -8
I see Roy has embraced his inner Rafiki. :p Can we throw him in the volcano? Why not? It would sure spice things up on the Island.
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Post by xamtheking on Jan 21, 2016 14:47:40 GMT -8
I was not able to use the power I recieved Well, what I'm asking is. Was that voyeur power the only thing you've had? Or did you use something from an earlier night? I recieved absolutely fucking nothing the entire game other than the Voyeur power the night I died.
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Post by Roytheone on Jan 21, 2016 14:49:14 GMT -8
Would anyone prefer it if I died without using my power to get my flip earlier? I know loss of utility, but it might help get the rest of you going a little bit faster No, 2 cop powers are incredibly useful.
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Post by Sorian on Jan 21, 2016 14:49:24 GMT -8
Well, what I'm asking is. Was that voyeur power the only thing you've had? Or did you use something from an earlier night? I recieved absolutely fucking nothing the entire game other than the Voyeur power the night I died. Hmm, so you don't really help for what I'm trying to figure out. Brb need to check something in the thread.
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Post by Sorian on Jan 21, 2016 14:52:33 GMT -8
I recieved absolutely fucking nothing the entire game other than the Voyeur power the night I died. Hmm, so you don't really help for what I'm trying to figure out. Brb need to check something in the thread. Damn and Ultron is the only other person who could have potentially answered my question. I'm just wondering if using a power in the same night as you dying removes it from the list. The only way that Scrafty's investigation was wrong (without her being an accomplice) is if Kawl switched Tim and someone else. Kawl died with a switcher power in the pipe so I was just trying to figure out how that system works of what Splinter reports. Karu could have also just given Kawl switcher powers twice but still waiting for him to get back to the thread.
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Post by xamtheking on Jan 21, 2016 14:59:01 GMT -8
Hmm, so you don't really help for what I'm trying to figure out. Brb need to check something in the thread. Damn and Ultron is the only other person who could have potentially answered my question. I'm just wondering if using a power in the same night as you dying removes it from the list. The only way that Scrafty's investigation was wrong (without her being an accomplice) is if Kawl switched Tim and someone else. Kawl died with a switcher power in the pipe so I was just trying to figure out how that system works of what Splinter reports. Karu could have also just given Kawl switcher powers twice but still waiting for him to get back to the thread. Why not just ask Splinter?
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Post by Sorian on Jan 21, 2016 15:03:12 GMT -8
Damn and Ultron is the only other person who could have potentially answered my question. I'm just wondering if using a power in the same night as you dying removes it from the list. The only way that Scrafty's investigation was wrong (without her being an accomplice) is if Kawl switched Tim and someone else. Kawl died with a switcher power in the pipe so I was just trying to figure out how that system works of what Splinter reports. Karu could have also just given Kawl switcher powers twice but still waiting for him to get back to the thread. Why not just ask Splinter? I don't tend to ask the mod a lot of questions. Especially if it's something that doesn't pertain to me directly. This particular point seems more like mystery solving than asking the mod to me.
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Post by xamtheking on Jan 21, 2016 15:05:14 GMT -8
Why not just ask Splinter? I don't tend to ask the mod a lot of questions. Especially if it's something that doesn't pertain to me directly. This particular point seems more like mystery solving than asking the mod to me. You assume Splinter meant to do anything Real talk, doesn't it say "X recieved these gifts from the afterlife" which might mean that the powers would show up even if they had already been used?
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Post by Roytheone on Jan 21, 2016 15:08:14 GMT -8
Related : I remember splinter saying that even powers you couldn't receive because you all ready had 3 would still show up.
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Post by Sorian on Jan 21, 2016 15:08:25 GMT -8
I don't tend to ask the mod a lot of questions. Especially if it's something that doesn't pertain to me directly. This particular point seems more like mystery solving than asking the mod to me. You assume Splinter meant to do anything Real talk, doesn't it say "X recieved these gifts from the afterlife" which might mean that the powers would show up even if they had already been used? It's vague enough that it could mean a list of everything they've ever had or things they still have left to use. That's part of my confusion
Also, killing KK isn't entirely useless while we are on this topic. Since he comes back as a new version of the same ghost buster, I assume he loses all of his bestowed powers every time he dies.
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Post by xamtheking on Jan 21, 2016 15:10:57 GMT -8
Related : I remember splinter saying that even powers you couldn't receive because you all ready had 3 would still show up. That fits with what I think, then.
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Post by xamtheking on Jan 21, 2016 15:12:53 GMT -8
You assume Splinter meant to do anything Real talk, doesn't it say "X recieved these gifts from the afterlife" which might mean that the powers would show up even if they had already been used? It's vague enough that it could mean a list of everything they've ever had or things they still have left to use. That's part of my confusion
Also, killing KK isn't entirely useless while we are on this topic. Since he comes back as a new version of the same ghost buster, I assume he loses all of his bestowed powers every time he dies.
Killing KK also helps decrease spirit deaths(which is good if scum isnt here) and increase island deaths which could get more scum in here
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Post by Sorian on Jan 21, 2016 15:14:52 GMT -8
It's vague enough that it could mean a list of everything they've ever had or things they still have left to use. That's part of my confusion
Also, killing KK isn't entirely useless while we are on this topic. Since he comes back as a new version of the same ghost buster, I assume he loses all of his bestowed powers every time he dies.
Killing KK also helps decrease spirit deaths(which is good if scum isnt here) and increase island deaths which could get more scum in here Nope, the replacement ghost buster shows up immediately both times so far so they never miss their night kill. And no to the second point too actually, it's still one new spirit each day and one new spirit each night.
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Post by xamtheking on Jan 21, 2016 15:18:12 GMT -8
Killing KK also helps decrease spirit deaths(which is good if scum isnt here) and increase island deaths which could get more scum in here Nope, the replacement ghost buster shows up immediately both times so far so they never miss their night kill. And no to the second point too actually, it's still one new spirit each day and one new spirit each night. Oh, ok, didn't know that. Gotcha. I got some questions for ya. 1. Are you confident enough that we don't have any scum in this here Afterlife to talk about my potential Bestow target? 2. What are your thoughts on Cabot?
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Post by Sorian on Jan 21, 2016 15:25:07 GMT -8
Nope, the replacement ghost buster shows up immediately both times so far so they never miss their night kill. And no to the second point too actually, it's still one new spirit each day and one new spirit each night. Oh, ok, didn't know that. Gotcha. I got some questions for ya. 1. Are you confident enough that we don't have any scum in this here Afterlife to talk about my potential Bestow target? 2. What are your thoughts on Cabot? 1. Two answers to this. Aside from you, yes, I am pretty confident that there is no scum down here. Squidy's switcher targets have yet to prove him in the thread upstairs but I don't think they've posted yet either so we'll see there. Someone could be a scum-aligned spirit that had the same name as town, wouldn't put it past Splinter, but I'll go with Occam's Razor. To your second part, even if there isn't scum here now, anything you say is archived and the game is still going to scum will probably get here eventually. But do I think there is danger to you telling us? Maybe, I could see arguments for telling us and arguments for taking it to your grave. You have time to think about it, we are allowed to talk in here regardless of night or day phase so no rush until when KK would be vacuuming someone.
2. I've thought he was town from early on and he's only re-affirmed that continuously through the game. He's trying to figure things out and is constantly on point with staying active (except when he is obviously drunk).
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Post by Sorian on Jan 21, 2016 15:26:30 GMT -8
And there's that at least, Tim just said he got switcher so unless Karu did Scrafty and Tim last night, that means Splinter is at least telling the truth about giving out switcher powers.
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Post by Splinter on Jan 21, 2016 15:38:01 GMT -8
And there's that at least, Tim just said he got switcher so unless Karu did Scrafty and Tim last night, that means Splinter is at least telling the truth about giving out switcher powers. Would I lie to you?
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Post by Sorian on Jan 21, 2016 15:42:21 GMT -8
And there's that at least, Tim just said he got switcher so unless Karu did Scrafty and Tim last night, that means Splinter is at least telling the truth about giving out switcher powers. Would I lie to you? lolololol
Yes
And there's that at least, Tim just said he got switcher so unless Karu did Scrafty and Tim last night, that means Squidy is at least telling the truth about giving out switcher powers. Bolded is an edit to the quoted post.
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Post by xamtheking on Jan 21, 2016 15:46:53 GMT -8
Oh, ok, didn't know that. Gotcha. I got some questions for ya. 1. Are you confident enough that we don't have any scum in this here Afterlife to talk about my potential Bestow target? 2. What are your thoughts on Cabot? 1. Two answers to this. Aside from you, yes, I am pretty confident that there is no scum down here. Squidy's switcher targets have yet to prove him in the thread upstairs but I don't think they've posted yet either so we'll see there. Someone could be a scum-aligned spirit that had the same name as town, wouldn't put it past Splinter, but I'll go with Occam's Razor. To your second part, even if there isn't scum here now, anything you say is archived and the game is still going to scum will probably get here eventually. But do I think there is danger to you telling us? Maybe, I could see arguments for telling us and arguments for taking it to your grave. You have time to think about it, we are allowed to talk in here regardless of night or day phase so no rush until when KK would be vacuuming someone.
2. I've thought he was town from early on and he's only re-affirmed that continuously through the game. He's trying to figure things out and is constantly on point with staying active (except when he is obviously drunk).
Then do you have any preference right now for who I should bestow on? I know it's early, but in this game, you shouldn't take anything for granted
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Post by Sorian on Jan 21, 2016 15:49:51 GMT -8
1. Two answers to this. Aside from you, yes, I am pretty confident that there is no scum down here. Squidy's switcher targets have yet to prove him in the thread upstairs but I don't think they've posted yet either so we'll see there. Someone could be a scum-aligned spirit that had the same name as town, wouldn't put it past Splinter, but I'll go with Occam's Razor. To your second part, even if there isn't scum here now, anything you say is archived and the game is still going to scum will probably get here eventually. But do I think there is danger to you telling us? Maybe, I could see arguments for telling us and arguments for taking it to your grave. You have time to think about it, we are allowed to talk in here regardless of night or day phase so no rush until when KK would be vacuuming someone.
2. I've thought he was town from early on and he's only re-affirmed that continuously through the game. He's trying to figure things out and is constantly on point with staying active (except when he is obviously drunk).
Then do you have any preference right now for who I should bestow on? I know it's early, but in this game, you shouldn't take anything for granted I wouldn't bestow Scrafty again and I find Tim sketchy so I would recommend not him but otherwise, you should just choose whoever you think is the most town and doesn't have 3 powers already because of the power limit (basically, don't do Darryl because everyone has a hard-on for giving Darryl powers).
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Post by xamtheking on Jan 21, 2016 15:50:42 GMT -8
Then do you have any preference right now for who I should bestow on? I know it's early, but in this game, you shouldn't take anything for granted I wouldn't bestow Scrafty again and I find Tim sketchy so I would recommend not him but otherwise, you should just choose whoever you think is the most town and doesn't have 3 powers already because of the power limit (basically, don't do Darryl because everyone has a hard-on for giving Darryl powers). Then how does our resident Town Drunk sound? How many powers does Cabby have?
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Post by Sorian on Jan 21, 2016 15:52:12 GMT -8
I wouldn't bestow Scrafty again and I find Tim sketchy so I would recommend not him but otherwise, you should just choose whoever you think is the most town and doesn't have 3 powers already because of the power limit (basically, don't do Darryl because everyone has a hard-on for giving Darryl powers). Then how does our resident Town Drunk sound? How many powers does Cabby have? Have Roy ask him. I think he's only holding one right now but that's pretty much a huge guess just based on hints and such.
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Post by xamtheking on Jan 21, 2016 16:02:47 GMT -8
Then how does our resident Town Drunk sound? How many powers does Cabby have? Have Roy ask him. I think he's only holding one right now but that's pretty much a huge guess just based on hints and such. I'd actually prefer it if we don't mention it in the Island chat at all Our advantage we have right now is that everything we say here, scum can't detect right away. Having roy ask cabot might put a target on cabot's back, especially since scum is no longer going to try to go after Roy.
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Post by squidyj on Jan 21, 2016 16:03:26 GMT -8
I don't think the evidence supports being that suspicious of czartim.
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Post by squidyj on Jan 21, 2016 16:04:12 GMT -8
i'm really looking forward to hearing from karu about his bestows. btw *cough* *cough*
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Post by Sorian on Jan 21, 2016 16:17:27 GMT -8
I don't think the evidence supports being that suspicious of czartim. There's not much evidence to support anything at the moment in all honesty. As far as I see it, something happened to that soul destroy command.
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Post by Roytheone on Jan 21, 2016 16:27:57 GMT -8
Then do you have any preference right now for who I should bestow on? I know it's early, but in this game, you shouldn't take anything for granted I wouldn't bestow Scrafty again and I find Tim sketchy so I would recommend not him but otherwise, you should just choose whoever you think is the most town and doesn't have 3 powers already because of the power limit (basically, don't do Darryl because everyone has a hard-on for giving Darryl powers). Idea: everyone should have place for at least one power, right? I would assume it gets decided on a first come basis. So if we make sure Xam is the first to put in his bestow commands, it should always reach those people, right?
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Post by Sorian on Jan 21, 2016 17:03:27 GMT -8
I wouldn't bestow Scrafty again and I find Tim sketchy so I would recommend not him but otherwise, you should just choose whoever you think is the most town and doesn't have 3 powers already because of the power limit (basically, don't do Darryl because everyone has a hard-on for giving Darryl powers). Idea: everyone should have place for at least one power, right? I would assume it gets decided on a first come basis. So if we make sure Xam is the first to put in his bestow commands, it should always reach those people, right? This assume it goes in an order of night commands sent as opposed to their being a set up order of which powers have priority.
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Post by Roytheone on Jan 22, 2016 2:26:40 GMT -8
I hope you guys aren't seriously considering killing kitty again, I rather would want him to keep on trusting us. Also, that would split the votes which is always risky, especially with a king role in play and this thread having relatively few players in it. I don't think the evidence supports being that suspicious of czartim. There's not much evidence to support anything at the moment in all honesty. As far as I see it, something happened to that soul destroy command. Overview: Cabot tracked Mazre -> visited crimson CornBro switched me and kitty Czartim protected me, thus kitty Mazre -> watched crimson, only spirit visitors Ty40n watched me, thus kitty -> saw CornB and czartim Bombay animal checked kitty, thus me, saw goat Now, if we assume the soul destroy is a spirit action, that means it can't be healed or switched. Since it didn't show up, they had to target either me or kitty. Targeting kitty makes no sense for multiple reasons, so they probably targeted me not realizing i was also immune. If we assume the soul destroy is not a spirit action, and I just randomly are immune to it, that means it could have been healed and switched. In this case, it actually makes sense to target kitty, switch kitty with me in order to move the kill to me and circumvent protection and watchers. Of course, now knowing that I am a king role that never could have worked since being able to win the game that way would be incredibly broken, but they didn't know that and tried it. In this case, CornBro is probably scum. Option 3: there are rules to the soul destroy, something like: "a scum needs to be in the afterlife to use it" for example. Being able to basically get three kills every phase (1 banish, 1 banish+kill) is pretty powerful, so it makes sense they need to do stuff to use it.
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Post by Sorian on Jan 22, 2016 5:03:19 GMT -8
Roy:
"Also, scum doesn't pm night kills (both the banish and the soul destroy)"
This is wrong, they PM the banish command but Soul Destroy is posted in scum chat.
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