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Post by zippedpinhead on Jan 11, 2016 14:50:52 GMT -8
Everyone is being so mean to Zipped  Seriously. I'm going to have some choice words with those who are complaining about a 'bad play' and then proceeded to bandwagon. Actually I'm not sure how we should use our night kill. Do we try and get someone with great deductive power to help us with our afterlife scum hunt, or try to help the islanders eliminate scum? Does it matter if we scum hunt during the night, or do we justtry and keep our favorites alive and then find them scummy up here? Obviously, I think it's possible for everyone to die on the island, but we can still win in the afterlife. This is because Town's win condition is to eliminate all the evil spirits, that strikes me as eliminate the afterlife scum.Hm, possibly? We won't have much to go on until we get a confirmed Scum to flip but you might be right. As for Night kills...I really don't know at this point. Having people come here and help us might be great but since we: a) don't know if we get role PMs when someone dies at Night and therefore can't confirm their alignment b) people might switch alignments when coming here c) we don't know Scums win condition which may be to just eliminate all living Islanders and we would be helping them inch closer to victory. When it comes to Night Kills I feel like trying to hit Scum might be best. I agree with your ABCs. I can get behind night scum hunting. Sadly we won't be able to really try it out until we get a confirmed scum up here, but this will get us on our way. |
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Post by zippedpinhead on Jan 11, 2016 14:52:42 GMT -8
First off, ehm... weird? So you got two PMs in close approximation with no benefit whatsoever between getting the Power and getting lynched? And: Wouldn't Sorian disprove your theory, though? The first time I saw the outsider PM was when I clicked on the locked thread and saw my death. And it blew my mind. Sorian is an interesting case, that could have been him and *splinter playing a joke on us, it also could have been game. Honestly, because of that he is a good night target for me (though I'm not convinced of his scummy-ness) |
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Post by zippedpinhead on Jan 11, 2016 14:55:05 GMT -8
I also want to post a thought (before I leave work to drive for an hour... Don't go lynching me while I'm gone. J/k).
What if one of the roles here given to a scum gave them the ability to bestow and "exorcism" power on an islander...?
It's a terrible thought, but one we need to consider.
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Post by karu on Jan 11, 2016 14:55:33 GMT -8
Uhm, we sacrificed Players in the main game (Right?!), and banish them here, no? The sample PM clearly states
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Post by zippedpinhead on Jan 11, 2016 14:59:08 GMT -8
Uhm, we sacrificed Players in the main game (Right?!), and banish them here, no? The sample PM clearly states Karu no direct quotes from the PM, But the word in question is "still". And the dangerous assumption that some people have a "no longer" in its place. |
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Post by Splinter on Jan 11, 2016 14:59:40 GMT -8
He quoted the sample PM, I guess thats fine
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Post by zippedpinhead on Jan 11, 2016 15:00:55 GMT -8
Are we allowed to direct quote the sample PM? Probably
Sorry for throwing stones Karu. I read too fast.
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Post by Sawneeks on Jan 11, 2016 15:01:50 GMT -8
Uhm, we sacrificed Players in the main game (Right?!), and banish them here, no? The sample PM clearly states Sorry, I'm running on 2 hours of sleep and my thoughts are a bit jumbled right and things are running together. What I was going to say before I decided against it and deleted it was that the earlier theory of there being no Scum in the main thread might be right and flipping a Scum here, or there, would confirm that theory. After I thought about it I realized that sounded like BS and deleted it but I guess missed a section. |
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Post by karu on Jan 11, 2016 15:02:45 GMT -8
Oh yeah, I did quote the Sample PM as part of the thread, huh.
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Post by zippedpinhead on Jan 11, 2016 15:08:56 GMT -8
Uhm, we sacrificed Players in the main game (Right?!), and banish them here, no? The sample PM clearly states Sorry, I'm running on 2 hours of sleep and my thoughts are a bit jumbled right and things are running together. What I was going to say before I decided against it and deleted it was that the earlier theory of there being no Scum in the main thread might be right and flipping a Scum here, or there, would confirm that theory. After I thought about it I realized that sounded like BS and deleted it but I guess missed a section. My theory wasn't that there was no scum on the island. Its that there are no real Power roles on the island other than ordinary scum and ordinary townies. With maybe a flavor neutral or two. Our new spirit roles will take the place of the power roles. Bestowing powers on our favorites (and if scum is here likely scum teammates) until such a time as the deaths stop and scum is found. We really won't know for a few days if that is true or not. That is why it was a theory. And it's mostly based on the fact that I was ordinary until the moment I died. |
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Post by zippedpinhead on Jan 11, 2016 15:17:58 GMT -8
When do blarg, launch, and pop wake up? I'm interested in their theories and thoughts on our "predicament".
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Post by zippedpinhead on Jan 11, 2016 15:20:36 GMT -8
Sorian just asked to be night killed and for town "not to do it".
I'll just remember that for later...
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Post by Lone_Prodigy on Jan 11, 2016 15:39:17 GMT -8
So from I gather:
1. Island lynches someone during the day, they enter Afterlife.
2. Afterlife banishes someone during the day, they are removed entirely from the game. We probably see a role PM.
3. Afterlife lynches someone from the Island during the night, they enter Afterlife.
My guess is that 1. and 3. give us no flips. Zipped, I think, was an exception because he was first? Otherwise, if the Island lynches scum, then we banish them the next day.
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Post by karu on Jan 11, 2016 15:41:53 GMT -8
That would make one angry mob  But I actually agree with main thread that Lynch will probably give a flip, Power Kills not. |
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Post by Splinter on Jan 11, 2016 15:43:06 GMT -8
FYI, current vote count can be found here |
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Post by zippedpinhead on Jan 11, 2016 15:54:45 GMT -8
So from I gather: 1. Island lynches someone during the day, they enter Afterlife. 2. Afterlife banishes someone during the day, they are removed entirely from the game. We probably see a role PM. 3. Afterlife lynches someone from the Island during the night, they enter Afterlife. My guess is that 1. and 3. give us no flips. Zipped, I think, was an exception because he was first? Otherwise, if the Island lynches scum, then we banish them the next day. The islanders will freak if this is the case. |
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Post by karu on Jan 11, 2016 16:08:25 GMT -8
So from I gather: 1. Island lynches someone during the day, they enter Afterlife. 2. Afterlife banishes someone during the day, they are removed entirely from the game. We probably see a role PM. 3. Afterlife lynches someone from the Island during the night, they enter Afterlife. My guess is that 1. and 3. give us no flips. Zipped, I think, was an exception because he was first? Otherwise, if the Island lynches scum, then we banish them the next day. Uhm, so I might have fucked up my search (although I double checked), but you neither participated in FF nor did you give an excuse in the main thread, but only posted 4 times without ANYTHING significant. What gives? |
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Post by Blargonaut on Jan 11, 2016 18:52:48 GMT -8
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Post by Blargonaut on Jan 11, 2016 18:56:04 GMT -8
When do blarg, launch, and pop wake up? I'm interested in their theories and thoughts on our "predicament". Judgement postponed |
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Post by Sawneeks on Jan 11, 2016 21:44:10 GMT -8
The massive defense around Scrafty bothers me. It seems every single time someone mentions 'maybe let's lynch her' you get 2 or 3 people saying why that's maybe not the best without giving concrete reasons as to why that is. Maybe I was not as clear with my reasons against her as I originally thought I was but that still doesn't excuse her defense squad ( Sorian, Roy, Corn ). Sorian and Roy are really bugging me, namely because both are still around and their posts haven't sat right with me today, they feel 'off'. Regardless, that's a focus for when night falls and when a kill must be decided. I want to focus on now, in this ethereal room filled with ghosts, because so far we have done little to really get things going here in order to find our Scum ghost. That's not good. Vote: KalorI'm not going to retread ground with the whole early Day 1 stuff but your final vote on Zipped isn't looking great for you. You claimed it was because the sudden surge towards Scrafty made you feel she was Town and therefore switched over to Zipped but you didn't explain why you moved your final vote there. Actually, you even kind of defended Zipped earlier when Karu first voted for him and that makes your sudden swap even weirder. What suddenly made you jump around and want to lynch Zipped? Also, this was a pretty quick turn around from this post here so I'm also curious as to what Roy did to make you change your mind because right now you look like a Scum who threw meaningless votes around to stay active. |
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Post by Sawneeks on Jan 11, 2016 22:22:37 GMT -8
Also a question for Volcano God Splinter. If a majority of votes is reach either here or in the main thread does the Day still end early? And does it end early in both threads even though only one has reached majority and the other has not?
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Post by Splinter on Jan 11, 2016 22:59:44 GMT -8
Also a question for Volcano God Splinter. If a majority of votes is reach either here or in the main thread does the Day still end early? And does it end early in both threads even though only one has reached majority and the other has not? The day ends early, and you get an extended night phase to keep things in line. Night voting won't start until the Island day phase had also ended though (so it would just be discussion until then) |
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Post by karu on Jan 11, 2016 23:51:00 GMT -8
Till LP says something useful...
VOTE: LoneProdigy
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Post by Splinter on Jan 12, 2016 1:51:28 GMT -8
IMPORTANT SCHEDULING UPDATE
Your day phases will end 1 hour earlier than on the Island (47 hour phase).
Similarly, your night phases will also end 1 hour early (23 hours).
There will be a 1 hour break between phases. I'll update the OP + timers when I get home.
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Post by zippedpinhead on Jan 12, 2016 3:34:34 GMT -8
I can get behind a kalor or lone prodigy vote. They seem to have disappeared.
Also where are Nin and pop? Seems like they never made it over from FF...
Hopefully all four realize we are all still playing the game.
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Post by karu on Jan 12, 2016 3:59:28 GMT -8
Also where are Nin and pop? Seems like they never made it over from FF... Nin's not dead yet.  Sorian irks me with his 180 on ridil, after he was so adamant in Day 9 about him. |
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Post by zippedpinhead on Jan 12, 2016 4:02:15 GMT -8
Also where are Nin and pop? Seems like they never made it over from FF... Nin's not dead yet. Sorian irks me with his 180 on ridil, after he was so adamant in Day 9 about him. You are right! Double checked players and Nin isn't there. But then where is hyperactivity? Sorian is being flaky on ridli, but he was being flakey all day 1. It could just be him but it is scummy |
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Post by Swamped on Jan 12, 2016 8:20:01 GMT -8
Ok, so we need to vote to banish a dead person. At least one of us is an evil spirit - that much has to be true. It's hard to say whether we can assume that everyone who was Island-aligned before still are in the Afterlife. But if this is the case then at least some of my reads can transfer over. My other option is to treat this as a new D1 of a new game. I'll be doing a combination of both, that is, treat this as a D1, but with information about general player behavior from the main game.
Blargonaut - impossible to say at this point. His posts in the afterlife have not commented on the game proceedings, and neither did his posts in the main game. Could make a good banish candidate, or at least he's a good person to pressure.
Hyperactivity - I felt he was islander when alive. Today he voted for me after quoting my post, but did not elaborate. I see the hasty vote as a sign that he's probably Island. On that note, could you elaborate on that vote, Hyper?
Kalor - Used the term 'ordinary spirit'. Just thought I'd mention that. It's a very good assumption to make about the name of the Evil Spirits, so I don't really see it as a scumtell. I saw him as Island back in the real world.
Karu - He's posting, pressuring L_P. Prodding low activity is always helpful since scum has been known to hide among them. But this is also an easy tactic for scum to use to look useful. Anyway, I wouldn't vote Karu out just yet.
LaunchPadMcQ - Hasn't posted yet
LoneProdigy - Had some insights about how the afterlife works. Wouldn't vote out just yet. He's a quiet player in general so I don't see the lack of posts as a scumtell
Pop-O-Matic - Hasn't posted yet
Sawneeks - Feels Island-aligned
Zippedpinhead - Leading discussions, trying to get to the bottom of this situation. Scum might try to intentionally obfuscate, but I don't get that feeling from Zipped. I think he's Island.
I think today's lynch is going to be important in terms of understanding how the mechanism works. We we surely get a role PM, but will we also get the lynchee's old PM? I'm disinclined to vote out someone who is active so far. I would argue that even voting a low activity player will tell us something.
VOTE: Blargonaut
I would also like your Top 5 Islanders from the main game. I think if everyone posts theirs, it will help us scum hunt in here (gives us more discussion points). It will also give an indication of who you are likely to BESTOW powers on. Remember that each player on the Island can only have up to three powers. And you can accidentally bestow power upon Evil Spirits!
Here's my Top 5, from more confident to least:
1. Ty4on
2. Kawl
3. Xam
4. Corn
5. Mazre
(Bonus) I think Ridli is alright too
I haven't had a chance to re-read the main thread so this list is subject to change.
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Post by Hyperactivity on Jan 12, 2016 8:37:36 GMT -8
You think he's island?
Holy shit Swamped, pls
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Post by Swamped on Jan 12, 2016 8:43:42 GMT -8
You think he's island? Holy shit Swamped, pls Uh, who exactly are you referring to lol? |
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