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Post by Sorian on Jan 17, 2016 12:07:48 GMT -8
On the off chance that I die by the way, just some thoughts I want out there. First off, by my estimation, the orginal volcano death crew is all town at this point. The neutral is accounted for, Zipped which was the only "wild card" was proven town, so of the remaining 9, I find it hard to believe there was more than 2 scum. Keep that in mind when voting for your banishments. You don't need to believe me if you don't want but I'd be surprised if I'm wrong, I'm sure that original 9 was chosen as a new balanced mafia game.
Other than that, Tim is reading town to everyone. I have a lot of suspects up there and they seem to line up with a lot of you guys: Squidy, Dusk, Xam but Tim is flying under for a lot of people because he was trying to bus Blarg early. Yes, we do know now that Blarg was scum but with the way this game is, killing a teammate might have been a beneficial course of action. If they knew a lot about this island then they may also have known that the first lynched person would be the outsider and getting scum down here first, plus the next 9 which would have still held 2 scum by my guess would have been a huge advantage. I think Tim's call for a policy lynch is still the weirdest thing ever and otherwise, he has played such a pro-town game but that early call on Blarg still feels weird to me.
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Post by Roytheone on Jan 17, 2016 12:23:23 GMT -8
Well, I have a spirit animal, so I assume I will join you guys as a ghost. Is it a penguin?   |
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Post by Sawneeks on Jan 17, 2016 12:27:25 GMT -8
cough "All members of the scum team also have access to the shared Night Kill. Use the command BANISH: <player name> in scum chat. This target must be a player in The Afterlife." I'm assuming they didn't know about unlocking powers but I would still guess they knew about here at the very least. Also are we going to talk about how Ridli's Role was the exact same as Blarg's? Because I'm really confused by that one. Heh, such an obvious answer sometimes, good call. So yeah, they've known about the afterlife from the start. I can't say I'm very bothered by Ridli having a dupe power. Town has dupe powers running around, doesn't surprise me that scum has them too. This game seems built around very specific PRs and with such big teams, I guess it was just easier to have multiples laying around. How many Scum do you think we have running around, then? My initial guess was in the range of 5 or 6 but considering that they can have dupe ghost powers maybe we are looking at 7+? |
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Post by Swamped on Jan 17, 2016 12:29:09 GMT -8
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Post by Roytheone on Jan 17, 2016 12:30:50 GMT -8
Heh, such an obvious answer sometimes, good call. So yeah, they've known about the afterlife from the start. I can't say I'm very bothered by Ridli having a dupe power. Town has dupe powers running around, doesn't surprise me that scum has them too. This game seems built around very specific PRs and with such big teams, I guess it was just easier to have multiples laying around. How many Scum do you think we have running around, then? My initial guess was in the range of 5 or 6 but considering that they can have dupe ghost powers maybe we are looking at 7+? Balance wise, a big scum team could really easily break this game. Remember that they only need to get a majority in any of the two threads to pretty much secure a win, and to get a majority here they could just mass suicide. |
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Post by Sawneeks on Jan 17, 2016 12:32:50 GMT -8
Oh yeah.
After googling 'X spirit animal' I found out my animal does actually correspond with my new PR so you guys were pretty on point about the whole 'spirit animal = PR' idea.
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Post by Sorian on Jan 17, 2016 12:38:25 GMT -8
Heh, such an obvious answer sometimes, good call. So yeah, they've known about the afterlife from the start. I can't say I'm very bothered by Ridli having a dupe power. Town has dupe powers running around, doesn't surprise me that scum has them too. This game seems built around very specific PRs and with such big teams, I guess it was just easier to have multiples laying around. How many Scum do you think we have running around, then? My initial guess was in the range of 5 or 6 but considering that they can have dupe ghost powers maybe we are looking at 7+? 7 scum +/- 1. 7/31 is 22% of the players which is on point. 2/9 is also 22% which is why I am assuming 2 scum in smaller mafia game of 9 (excluding Zipped since we sent him down here, not the volcano). Seeing that there was an SK, I doubt there are 8 scum so my new guess is 6 or 7. |
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Post by Roytheone on Jan 17, 2016 12:38:55 GMT -8
Nah, it's an owl isn't it   Nah, it is totally a spider.  |
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Post by Sawneeks on Jan 17, 2016 12:46:15 GMT -8
How many Scum do you think we have running around, then? My initial guess was in the range of 5 or 6 but considering that they can have dupe ghost powers maybe we are looking at 7+? 7 scum +/- 1. 7/31 is 22% of the players which is on point. 2/9 is also 22% which is why I am assuming 2 scum in smaller mafia game of 9 (excluding Zipped since we sent him down here, not the volcano). Seeing that there was an SK, I doubt there are 8 scum so my new guess is 6 or 7. So we either have 3 or 4 left which, honestly, isn't that bad. Although I wonder if they didn't start out with 6 or 7 Scum and instead sat around 5 with 1 more person joining their ranks when they entered here. It would explain the whole 'You are still aligned with' because I still feel that someone isn't to keep their same aligned when they get here. Nah, it's an owl isn't it :P Nah, it is totally a spider. I'm sorry sir but we don't accept spiders here in the Afterlife. Unless, of course, they are of Australian variety, in which case they are free to do as they please. |
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Post by Sorian on Jan 17, 2016 12:51:37 GMT -8
7 scum +/- 1. 7/31 is 22% of the players which is on point. 2/9 is also 22% which is why I am assuming 2 scum in smaller mafia game of 9 (excluding Zipped since we sent him down here, not the volcano). Seeing that there was an SK, I doubt there are 8 scum so my new guess is 6 or 7. So we either have 3 or 4 left which, honestly, isn't that bad. Although I wonder if they didn't start out with 6 or 7 Scum and instead sat around 5 with 1 more person joining their ranks when they entered here. It would explain the whole 'You are still aligned with' because I still feel that someone isn't to keep their same aligned when they get here. Nah, it is totally a spider. I'm sorry sir but we don't accept spiders here in the Afterlife. Unless, of course, they are of Australian variety, in which case they are free to do as they please. Ridli claimed to be a lost partner that was recruited night 1. I don't know if you want to believe that information but it was in one of the deleted posts from a few pages back where Splinter told me and him to save it for after the game. The rest of the argument didn't really have game related info in it but that's probably important if he was telling the truth. |
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Post by Sorian on Jan 17, 2016 12:53:16 GMT -8
Which I see doesn't technically answer your question, for the record, I do not that think someone dying will make them switch teams. I think the "still aligned with" line was just meant to help us notice that they knew they were scum up there.
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Post by Splinter on Jan 17, 2016 13:00:10 GMT -8
Night has ended, you have selected ultron
Day 12 will begin in a little over an hour
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Post by Splinter on Jan 17, 2016 13:51:00 GMT -8
Latest news from the island: hereNever Forever has died!Zatoth has died!DAY 12 ENDS IN |
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Post by Splinter on Jan 17, 2016 14:00:56 GMT -8
In case it isn't clear from the Island day start post:
Kawl will not be joining you in the Afterlife
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Post by MagnumBoy20xx on Jan 17, 2016 14:04:42 GMT -8
Two deaths again? That's not good, especially since our SK is already dead....right?
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Post by MagnumBoy20xx on Jan 17, 2016 14:06:50 GMT -8
And, Terra just revealed my bestow power. Yay. If anyone wants to know who I targeted last night just ask.
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Post by Sawneeks on Jan 17, 2016 14:09:35 GMT -8
So Kawl isn't here at all, meaning there is an ability out there that can cause a person to completely skip the Afterlife phase of the game.
This either means someone here orchestrated that kill or Scum have a brand new ability they have been bestowed. Either way we didn't have this happen the previous Night phase, meaning someone new to the Afterlife made that kill or we have an extra Scum who bestowed that power in our midst. I'm more in line with thinking it was someone here who placed that kill, seeing as the general theme of the PRs has been we affect the Main Thread and the Main Thread only affects us, not the other way around. Since I'm also inclined to believe we started out with 2 Scum in the first 9 batch of deaths, that leaves one person unaccounted for
Vote: Nin1000
He either made the kill or, if he ends up Town, that means we have another Scum player here that we didn't account for in our original batch of 9. I'm also not going to rule out Sorian in this regard either as this 'skip the Afterlife' PR didn't show up until both he and Nin were here.
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Post by Roytheone on Jan 17, 2016 14:10:39 GMT -8
Alright, time for me to come clean a bit : My role had an extra part :if I made it to day 12 alive, I would get valuable information. Thus, knowing that there were infiltrators here and not knowing how kills would work, I decided to lie about me dying at the end of day 12, hopefully making me less of a target for scum. So yeah, I will not die at the end of today  Also, the information I got : Everyone was a town aligned ordinary day 9, all the real roles AND alignments were given on night 9. |
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Post by MagnumBoy20xx on Jan 17, 2016 14:13:57 GMT -8
Alright, time for me to come clean a bit : My role had an extra part :if I made it to day 12 alive, I would get valuable information. Thus, knowing that there were infiltrators here and not knowing how kills would work, I decided to lie about me dying at the end of day 12, hopefully making me less of a target for scum. So yeah, I will not die at the end of today Also, the information I got : Everyone was a town aligned ordinary day 9, all the real roles AND alignments were given on night 9. ...what. Everyone was town!?!? I could see that,but o ly because of how crazy this game is. Do you get anymore information if you survive long enough? |
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Post by Sorian on Jan 17, 2016 14:14:52 GMT -8
Alright, time for me to come clean a bit : My role had an extra part :if I made it to day 12 alive, I would get valuable information. Thus, knowing that there were infiltrators here and not knowing how kills would work, I decided to lie about me dying at the end of day 12, hopefully making me less of a target for scum. So yeah, I will not die at the end of today Also, the information I got : Everyone was a town aligned ordinary day 9, all the real roles AND alignments were given on night 9. Huh, so scum didn't know anything about each other on day 1? Well, that throws my prior Tim/Blarg theory out the window. |
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Post by Sawneeks on Jan 17, 2016 14:14:57 GMT -8
Also Crimson has a point, who gave Ultron a protect power? Because a 1-shot protection is certainly not a garbage ability lol. Alright, time for me to come clean a bit : My role had an extra part :if I made it to day 12 alive, I would get valuable information. Thus, knowing that there were infiltrators here and not knowing how kills would work, I decided to lie about me dying at the end of day 12, hopefully making me less of a target for scum. So yeah, I will not die at the end of today :) Also, the information I got : Everyone was a town aligned ordinary day 9, all the real roles AND alignments were given on night 9.So Day 1 was literally a shot in the dark? Amazing lol. |
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Post by Sorian on Jan 17, 2016 14:22:18 GMT -8
Also Crimson has a point, who gave Ultron a protect power? Because a 1-shot protection is certainly not a garbage ability lol. Alright, time for me to come clean a bit : My role had an extra part :if I made it to day 12 alive, I would get valuable information. Thus, knowing that there were infiltrators here and not knowing how kills would work, I decided to lie about me dying at the end of day 12, hopefully making me less of a target for scum. So yeah, I will not die at the end of today Also, the information I got : Everyone was a town aligned ordinary day 9, all the real roles AND alignments were given on night 9.So Day 1 was literally a shot in the dark? Amazing lol. RNG'd out? We seem to have a lot of inactive people this weekend. Also, lol to anyone that said we should dual lynch day 1. |
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Post by Sawneeks on Jan 17, 2016 14:27:24 GMT -8
Also Crimson has a point, who gave Ultron a protect power? Because a 1-shot protection is certainly not a garbage ability lol. So Day 1 was literally a shot in the dark? Amazing lol. RNG'd out? We seem to have a lot of inactive people this weekend. Also, lol to anyone that said we should dual lynch day 1. That's entirely possible and it was probably Zatoth then who got RNG'd out. Hey who knows, maybe a dual lynch Day 1 could have lead to 2 Outsider flips! 18 deaths Night 1! |
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Post by Roytheone on Jan 17, 2016 14:38:16 GMT -8
You guys think a protect works against our night kill?
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Post by MagnumBoy20xx on Jan 17, 2016 14:42:15 GMT -8
You guys think a protect works against our night kill? probably. I think protect prevents any kill from being made. |
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Post by Sawneeks on Jan 17, 2016 14:43:22 GMT -8
"why? last night i voyuered ty4on, who was blocked. so scum have a roleblock power, which means it likely came off ridli since he seems like the only scum that could've did it. so we need roy to confirm if ridli gave off a roleblock dispensing power."
I'm usually of the belief that Roleblock PRs are inherently anti-Town and are only given to Scum as they are generally are the only ones who have a use for it. Townies blocking other Townies doesn't help, but Scum know who is Town and therefore have a better reason to bestow that kind of power.
Since our bestow abilities take a Night to kick in this means that it can't be Sorian/Nin who bestowed that power and Ridli didn't flip with that ability, meaning someone from the original 9 did it.
" First order of business: I used one of my abilities last night to investigate the "potential" of our dear friend CzarTim. It revealed that he is an "Observant Spirit" although I'm not quite sure what to make of that."
Explains the frame ability both Ridli and Blarg had. I'm guessing investigation powers look at their Afterlife PR and not their Island Role, something we speculated as much earlier but it's nice to have more solid evidence that points to it.
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Post by Sawneeks on Jan 17, 2016 14:44:52 GMT -8
*they generally are the only ones
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Post by Kalor on Jan 17, 2016 14:51:38 GMT -8
"why? last night i voyuered ty4on, who was blocked. so scum have a roleblock power, which means it likely came off ridli since he seems like the only scum that could've did it. so we need roy to confirm if ridli gave off a roleblock dispensing power." I'm usually of the belief that Roleblock PRs are inherently anti-Town and are only given to Scum as they are generally are the only ones who have a use for it. Townies blocking other Townies doesn't help, but Scum know who is Town and therefore have a better reason to bestow that kind of power. Since our bestow abilities take a Night to kick in this means that it can't be Sorian/Nin who bestowed that power and Ridli didn't flip with that ability, meaning someone from the original 9 did it. " First order of business: I used one of my abilities last night to investigate the "potential" of our dear friend CzarTim. It revealed that he is an "Observant Spirit" although I'm not quite sure what to make of that." Explains the frame ability both Ridli and Blarg had. I'm guessing investigation powers look at their Afterlife PR and not their Island Role, something we speculated as much earlier but it's nice to have more solid evidence that points to it. If its from the original 9 then it would be between me, you, Karu, Magnum and Swamped. Magnum seems to be verified by Terra (unless they are working together) so that might rule him out. |
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Post by Roytheone on Jan 17, 2016 14:56:32 GMT -8
"why? last night i voyuered ty4on, who was blocked. so scum have a roleblock power, which means it likely came off ridli since he seems like the only scum that could've did it. so we need roy to confirm if ridli gave off a roleblock dispensing power." I'm usually of the belief that Roleblock PRs are inherently anti-Town and are only given to Scum as they are generally are the only ones who have a use for it. Townies blocking other Townies doesn't help, but Scum know who is Town and therefore have a better reason to bestow that kind of power. Since our bestow abilities take a Night to kick in this means that it can't be Sorian/Nin who bestowed that power and Ridli didn't flip with that ability, meaning someone from the original 9 did it. " First order of business: I used one of my abilities last night to investigate the "potential" of our dear friend CzarTim. It revealed that he is an "Observant Spirit" although I'm not quite sure what to make of that." Explains the frame ability both Ridli and Blarg had. I'm guessing investigation powers look at their Afterlife PR and not their Island Role, something we speculated as much earlier but it's nice to have more solid evidence that points to it. If someone in here is a scum role blocker, he could have done it directly. Scum seems to have direct abilities. Also, splinter forgot to send me some more info : Last night I sensed a dark ritual. I think that is what killed Kawl,judging from the flavor. |
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Post by Sawneeks on Jan 17, 2016 15:00:40 GMT -8
"why? last night i voyuered ty4on, who was blocked. so scum have a roleblock power, which means it likely came off ridli since he seems like the only scum that could've did it. so we need roy to confirm if ridli gave off a roleblock dispensing power." I'm usually of the belief that Roleblock PRs are inherently anti-Town and are only given to Scum as they are generally are the only ones who have a use for it. Townies blocking other Townies doesn't help, but Scum know who is Town and therefore have a better reason to bestow that kind of power. Since our bestow abilities take a Night to kick in this means that it can't be Sorian/Nin who bestowed that power and Ridli didn't flip with that ability, meaning someone from the original 9 did it. " First order of business: I used one of my abilities last night to investigate the "potential" of our dear friend CzarTim. It revealed that he is an "Observant Spirit" although I'm not quite sure what to make of that." Explains the frame ability both Ridli and Blarg had. I'm guessing investigation powers look at their Afterlife PR and not their Island Role, something we speculated as much earlier but it's nice to have more solid evidence that points to it.
Also, splinter forgot to send me some more info : Last night I sensed a dark ritual. I think that is what killed Kawl,judging from the flavor. I role back my initial statement, Nin/Sorian are back on the table in that regard. And that's a little..foreboding. I wonder what it means by 'dark ritual' because that makes it seem like Scum had to do something in order to get Kawl killed like that. |
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