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Post by squidyj on Dec 29, 2015 20:48:52 GMT -8
submitting pass/fail is more important for obvious reasons but I worry any time information is given away when it isn't needed.
All I would say is "We're waiting on 1 vote" or however many you're waiting for and if someone is slow prod them with a pm.
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Post by Droplet on Dec 29, 2015 20:55:30 GMT -8
Yeah, I see what you mean. It was honestly more of a confirmation that I received everyone's votes instead of a prod, but I suppose any information is something to be analyzed and this really isn't something that should be.
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Burbeting
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Post by Burbeting on Dec 30, 2015 3:25:31 GMT -8
Let's hope that new post from max resolves any concerns other players might have.
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Post by Roytheone on Dec 30, 2015 3:44:25 GMT -8
Why would you even make that joke though, it's a really REALLY dumb thing to do.
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Post by Roytheone on Dec 30, 2015 12:33:36 GMT -8
If I was scum in this mission, I would probably choose succeed, just to stay hidden.
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Post by Rats Off To Ya on Dec 30, 2015 12:44:51 GMT -8
Max sent me an apology for that post via PM, and he was worried that we'd contacted a mod (we didn't). I accepted his apology and asked him to edit out the original message.
So that's been sorted, it would appear.
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Post by Sorian on Dec 30, 2015 12:48:03 GMT -8
Snitches get stitches
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Post by Sorian on Dec 30, 2015 12:56:09 GMT -8
Wait, how did max edit his post without it putting the last edited by thing in the bottom right? That's a post from yesterday, way past the time frame where neogaf doesn't add that. >_>
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Post by Droplet on Dec 30, 2015 12:57:27 GMT -8
...that...is a good question.
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Post by Roytheone on Dec 30, 2015 12:58:45 GMT -8
Wait, how did max edit his post without it putting the last edited by thing in the bottom right? That's a post from yesterday, way past the time frame where neogaf doesn't add that. >_> He is secretly a mod. |
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Post by Rats Off To Ya on Dec 30, 2015 13:01:12 GMT -8
HOW DEEP DOES IT GO???!!!
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Post by Sorian on Dec 30, 2015 13:02:07 GMT -8
Yo, guys, I'm scared. Evilore might be fucking with us.
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Post by Roytheone on Dec 30, 2015 13:06:14 GMT -8
Guys, are any of you undercover mods? I am pretty sure you are legally forced to answer truthfully.
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Post by Sorian on Dec 30, 2015 13:08:05 GMT -8
Guys, are any of you undercover mods? I am pretty sure you are legally forced to answer truthfully. I am *cough* not a mod *cough* as far as I can recall.
......
*cough*
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Post by Sorian on Dec 30, 2015 14:40:07 GMT -8
I think Palmer is scum. Just based on nothing other than gut theory of what is happening here.
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Post by Droplet on Dec 30, 2015 22:09:34 GMT -8
Asshole players stop questioning my ability to directly copy things from game manuals!
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Post by Roytheone on Dec 31, 2015 2:24:49 GMT -8
Asshole players stop questioning my ability to directly copy things from game manuals! To be fair, I actually think Avalon tends to be slightly in favor of scum anyway  . However, the 4th quest that will require two fails will be the hardest hurdle for scum. |
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Post by Sorian on Dec 31, 2015 8:41:44 GMT -8
As someone who has never played this before, 6 vs. 4 doesn't seem unbalanced? I don't think I would have let scum have that discussion time at the start though but I don't see where this 4 person sticking point is coming from.
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Post by Droplet on Dec 31, 2015 11:29:18 GMT -8
To be fair, I actually think Avalon tends to be slightly in favor of scum anyway . However, the 4th quest that will require two fails will be the hardest hurdle for scum. I think so too, but it's not because of the scum count, it's because the Merlin condition exists. edit: the discussion time is something I'd have to think about, but it was mostly in the case we end up with two scum on the same team. In a normal game you either have metas like "person whose first initial is first in the alphabet throws the fail" or at the very least you can look the other player in the eye, but you don't have that ability here. They spent a considerable amount of time discussing what to do if they were on the first mission though... edit2: It's 6v4 because the game is about picking out scum, not about picking the right team by accident. Plus you have a player who should be able to figure who one of the scum players is within the first quest and one player who knows who all of them are. |
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Post by Rats Off To Ya on Dec 31, 2015 11:42:25 GMT -8
As someone who has never played this before, 6 vs. 4 doesn't seem unbalanced? I don't think I would have let scum have that discussion time at the start though but I don't see where this 4 person sticking point is coming from. Yeah, that might have been a mistake. The idea was that this game is normally played with a bunch of friends so we wanted to give them a chance to establish some comeraderie before we start. There's also the lack of nonverbal communication, and the fact that Good has the advantage of perfect recall of voting records. I dunno. The jury's still out on whether or not this game even works in this format without some radical changes. |
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Post by Roytheone on Dec 31, 2015 11:51:46 GMT -8
As someone who has never played this before, 6 vs. 4 doesn't seem unbalanced? I don't think I would have let scum have that discussion time at the start though but I don't see where this 4 person sticking point is coming from. Yeah, that might have been a mistake. The idea was that this game is normally played with a bunch of friends so we wanted to give them a chance to establish some comeraderie before we start. There's also the lack of nonverbal communication, and the fact that Good has the advantage of perfect recall of voting records. I dunno. The jury's still out on whether or not this game even works in this format without some radical changes. The thing I am actually curious about is that if finding merlin will be too easy for scum with the ability to read back on the thread and have some time to think about it. |
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Post by Sorian on Dec 31, 2015 11:58:21 GMT -8
Yeah, that might have been a mistake. The idea was that this game is normally played with a bunch of friends so we wanted to give them a chance to establish some comeraderie before we start. There's also the lack of nonverbal communication, and the fact that Good has the advantage of perfect recall of voting records. I dunno. The jury's still out on whether or not this game even works in this format without some radical changes. The thing I am actually curious about is that if finding merlin will be too easy for scum with the ability to read back on the thread and have some time to think about it. I'm really not the worried about it. Merlin can either be spot on, middle of the road, or be a complete idiot when it comes to the votes. They are going to WIFOM it to death I'm sure. If scum wins by sniping Merlin then I'm sure the tone will be that it was too easy with the voting records and discussion to look on but I don't think that's really going to be the case. |
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Post by Sorian on Dec 31, 2015 12:01:00 GMT -8
Also, just saw the thread, to the surprise of no one, it succeeded. I'm sure there was one scum in there and they are going to make it into quest 2 where they can promptly fail it.
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Post by Sorian on Dec 31, 2015 13:31:39 GMT -8
Kalor should just use the proposal command right? There's no reason not to I'd think? It's only final proposal that has real power.
Just making sure I understand that right.
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Post by Rats Off To Ya on Dec 31, 2015 13:46:22 GMT -8
Kalor should just use the proposal command right? There's no reason not to I'd think? It's only final proposal that has real power. Just making sure I understand that right. That's correct. |
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Post by squidyj on Dec 31, 2015 14:59:43 GMT -8
scum had time to discuss things to start?
things like a priority system if they wound up with multiple scum on the mission?
I uhhh..... I think they're gonna win.
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Post by Droplet on Dec 31, 2015 15:16:36 GMT -8
It's probably not a big deal as long as there's a proposal at some point in time. Maybe he just doesn't want to have a proposal in red.
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Post by Droplet on Dec 31, 2015 15:17:36 GMT -8
scum had time to discuss things to start? things like a priority system if they wound up with multiple scum on the mission? I uhhh..... I think they're gonna win. You would normally have that though. I personally think they screwed up the first mission though, but that's me. |
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Post by Sorian on Dec 31, 2015 16:29:12 GMT -8
scum had time to discuss things to start? things like a priority system if they wound up with multiple scum on the mission? I uhhh..... I think they're gonna win. You would normally have that though. I personally think they screwed up the first mission though, but that's me. So they were on the mission? Or Exodus is scum and purposely chose an all good team to start things off? Did they end up building a full priority system during their pre-game time? (My last question I'd like an answer, you can ignore my theories in the first two questions) |
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Post by Droplet on Dec 31, 2015 16:34:01 GMT -8
Their priority system is that whoever is first on the list throws the fail.
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. However, the 4th quest that will require two fails will be the hardest hurdle for scum.