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Post by Swamped on Dec 9, 2015 8:59:02 GMT -8
Omg, what an honor to share drinks with the best Death Eater (Don't ask why, I was obsessed with Bellatrix back in the day)
So why Hyper, KingKitty?
Also, Hyper: I know you're still catching up but I would appreciate if you told me your top two wolves, whenever you can.
Mine are Time and Rats so far. QB...Wavering on him, he could def be scum though.
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Post by Swamped on Dec 9, 2015 9:02:19 GMT -8
Ok, here might be a better question:
Is anyone here leaning Village on Time or Rats?
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Post by kingkitty on Dec 9, 2015 9:02:53 GMT -8
I've come around that GLT was just a newbie townie. And now that Hyper replaced glt, I feel safer inviting him. And he I think he would contribute well to the chat. I thought about inviting Xam but...as you say...he might let it slip about the gossip chat lol.
Right now I have Time as a suspect. Another suspect...I'm not sure yet.
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Post by kingkitty on Dec 9, 2015 9:05:16 GMT -8
Omg KK. There's so much to talk about. Now that your top two suspects are dead, who are your next top two wolves? Also, you must have guessed what my role is by now, especially after seeing the deaths in the opening lol. I don't really mind coming out with it at this point. My work is almost done, even if you accidentally invite a scum to chat. by opening you mean the Night 2 deaths?
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Post by kingkitty on Dec 9, 2015 9:09:38 GMT -8
and what do you mean your "work is almost done".
what does it all mean swamped
swamped pls
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Post by Swamped on Dec 9, 2015 9:10:09 GMT -8
by opening you mean the Night 2 deaths? Yep  It was a mistake, but a well-intentioned one. And I agree about GLT/Hyper (and Xam lol). BUT just in case: Hyper, what is your role? I will be able to tell if you're lying!
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Post by Swamped on Dec 9, 2015 9:13:19 GMT -8
and what do you mean your "work is almost done". what does it all mean swamped swamped pls I'll answer once Hyper answers all my questions  I want to feel better about his alignment. Sorry to be such a tease! I do want to discuss it though, because what happened on N1 is still a bit of a mystery, even with the info I have. Someone in the game thread may be lying (Well, duh I suppose)
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Post by kingkitty on Dec 9, 2015 9:20:33 GMT -8
swamped i don't know your alignment 100 percent. I read you as lean town, I've agreed with your thoughts on Time, but I don't know that you're 100 percent non-scum.
For all I know this could be a scum play to get a role claim from a player. This is why I don't want people to be asking each other to role claim in this chat. Or to role claim period.
I'm not saying you're scum, but I have to highlight this possibility.
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Post by Swamped on Dec 9, 2015 9:25:18 GMT -8
^ I totally understand, KK. I still want Hyper to answer the role question. I wouldn't ask that question to other players, but there's a reason I'm asking Hyper, who replaced GLT. I think you can guess what I'm getting at.
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Post by kingkitty on Dec 9, 2015 9:31:19 GMT -8
would you hold it against hyper if he refuses?
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Post by Hyperactivity on Dec 9, 2015 9:55:53 GMT -8
I'll catch up and see my reads on you guys before I say anything
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Post by Swamped on Dec 9, 2015 9:59:32 GMT -8
would you hold it against hyper if he refuses? I would certainly question why he is withholding that information. But I would still share what I know about N1 and N2. Even if Hyper is a wolf, it won't affect N3 too much (I think).
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Post by kingkitty on Dec 9, 2015 15:41:35 GMT -8
would you hold it against hyper if he refuses? I would certainly question why he is withholding that information. But I would still share what I know about N1 and N2. Even if Hyper is a wolf, it won't affect N3 too much (I think). what you want him to do is roleclaim, and if I were in his shoes, I wouldn't be so quick to do. I'm not sure why he's the suspicious one refusing to roleclaim lol... And to be honest, if he's mafia, I'm not sure how N3 won't end in tears for us. Swamped I'm confused. CONFUSED. c o n f u s e d.
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Post by Swamped on Dec 9, 2015 15:55:53 GMT -8
I should correct that. If Hyper is scum, it will be ok for me (kinda) but probably not for you KK...sorry im so vague.
I will wait for Hyper to chime in before i say anything!
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Post by Hyperactivity on Dec 9, 2015 21:44:23 GMT -8
There are a lot of players giving me Hyperactivity in Harry Potter vibes
Like seriously, way too many people.
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Post by Hyperactivity on Dec 9, 2015 22:00:40 GMT -8
Oh shit, at least a bunch of those players died
That makes things easier to look at
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Post by Hyperactivity on Dec 9, 2015 22:02:22 GMT -8
Anyone think Xam might be a pr playing the really clumsy new town?
Basically AbsolutBro 2.0?
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Post by Hyperactivity on Dec 9, 2015 22:06:18 GMT -8
FUCK THESE DAY 1 VOTES ARE GOOD
SOO USEFUL
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Post by Hyperactivity on Dec 9, 2015 22:43:26 GMT -8
Ok, Rats needs to go
Seriously, he bothers me. There's way too mch shady stuff going on, and he's the only surviving member of the D1 ultron vote, the only non-bandwagon vote from then asides from mattyg for Batsnacks (well, it was sorta a bandwagon, but I'm looking at end results now, and he had voted for ultron WAAY before)
Interesting stuff on the day 1 vote:
-The xamtheking voters are UNTOUCHED. Not a single kill against them -The Darryl vote, trusting swamped to be town, ca be eliminated down to 4 players, 1 of which is xam. Now, we already found our quota for scum in this one, so I'm not sure how much of a good idea it is to go exploring here (in a 5 town set up, 3 voting for a particular bandwagon isn't that much)
It might be worth poking around.
The day 2 voters for GLT also bother -Burbeting -Rats -mattyg (similar to his batnsacks explanation- feeling scummy vibes or something) -ultron87 -timeaisis
Right now I've got a major eye out for Rats Off To Ya, CzarTim, Burbeting, Timeaisis, Fluxwavez. Worth keeping an eye on mattyg. Want to make sure I don't forget fireblend or septimius prime too
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Post by Hyperactivity on Dec 9, 2015 22:45:15 GMT -8
I want whoever reads this post in the future, if I'm dead, to keep an eye out on the day 3 vote, because GLT was the secondary bandwagon a decent number of scum could hop on for that day, and me getting replaced ended that. Asides from Burbeting, Fireblend, czartim, they all voted in the zippedpinhead column
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Post by Hyperactivity on Dec 9, 2015 22:50:23 GMT -8
I'm not sure I trust Swamped, but so long as this chat maintains a population of at least 3 members, a scum Swamped is limited.
You better claim now
I'm just an ordinary town. What GLT did really annoyed me, but I understand what happened (the beginning of Metal Gear Solid was like that for me, and I did the same thing). I'm hoping it will come off the way zippedpinhead's ordinary claim came off in HP for me: "is he just trying to get into our head? or is he just disinterested"
It's true that me being a power role despite a previous player's words isn't unprecedented too, because in the words of the great Vylash
"My ability sucks"
Also, I'm thinking ahead now, but Swamped, if your role is investigative, I can claim at some point to relay the information through this thread
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Post by Hyperactivity on Dec 9, 2015 23:03:03 GMT -8
Poor zipped
Poor poor zipped.That's twice now I feel bad for him D:
He had a good idea and everything
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Post by Swamped on Dec 9, 2015 23:12:43 GMT -8
Excellent, all I wanted was to confirm that Hyper was indeed ordinary town as GLT had claimed in the main thread. I feel better about the three of us! So, about me.  I am a 3-shot vigilante. The catch is that I cannot be protected (so if someone attempted to protect me and scum also shot me, I would die). I've been trying to play the game as an ordinary for this reason (and so scum are less inclined to target me until I can finish my bullets). I hope my ordinariness came through! Why am I using all my bullets at the start of the game? Shouldn't I pace myself? Well, probably. But I don't want my powers to be wasted before I get killed. Also, the way I see the vigilante role, it's to kill people who I think are suspicious and who for some reason are not the focus in the game, or not getting lynch votes. I killed Terrabyte N1 (yay me! It was his apology at the end of the day that raised red flags). At least, I targeted him and he died. I guess I should have gone for the votes runner up, who was Xam, but I still think Xam is Town. I killed CornBro N2 (I'm so sorry ;_;) He had quite a few suspects on D2, so I thought he would be a good target. Now I need to make a decision on who to kill today. I would go for Time or Rats. It seems like Hyper suspects Rats. I would not mind offing him. The thing is, I really need to make sure I hit a wolf today. We've lost a lot of town, and for a game this size we probably have 5 wolves. I think there is also some other nefarious killing power out there. If we keep mislynching, we will quickly hit mylo/lylo. I want to buy us some time. 3 heads is better than 1, we can narrow down my targets. The other issue we need to think through is: Is Batsnacks telling the truth? It seems like he is? N1 - Drop (wolf kill, even though Cabot probably protected him), Terra (me), Ultron(?, also resurrected?) N2 - Cabot (batsnacks claims the kill), Splinter (wolf kill), Corn (me) This means that either wolves have an extra kill they used N1, or there is a SK who is somehow restricted, or withheld his kill on N2. Or Cabot successfully protected someone N2. ARGH I HAVE NO IDEA Another idea I was playing with, since this game seems to be sleep themed, what if there is an SK who can only target sleepwalkers or something? The deaths on N3 should give us more info I guess.
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Post by Swamped on Dec 9, 2015 23:13:26 GMT -8
Poor zipped Poor poor zipped.That's twice now I feel bad for him D: He had a good idea and everything Yeah seriously. He had such a cool role too.
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Post by Hyperactivity on Dec 9, 2015 23:34:44 GMT -8
Let me write out all the voting stuff
DAY ONE:
Darryl: Batsnacks CzarTim XamTheKing
FluxWavez
Cornburrito Drop Swamped - trusting you here
Cabot Terrabyte20XX - Scum
Ultron87:
Splinter Darryl GLT Rats Off To Ya
For reference, ROTY's vote is at post 783, which is about 200 posts before the attempt at a bandwagon ever starts. When he voted, this was a an off bandwagon vote.
Batsnacks: mattyg
Xamtheking: Makai Boo Boo'n Star Sketch Lollipop Dave Burbeting Ultron87 RNH=Trigger
You see any dead people
Ok, I've got three main theories as to what happened. I'm going to assume 5 mafia for now, perhaps account for 6 though tbh, looking at the size of the game (think six might be more likely)
A. 1:1:1:2/2:1:1:1 split Very possible, one of the main situations to consider.
B. 3:0:0:2 split Neither ROTY or mattyg is scum, but upon clearing that, getting scum will be an absolute piece of cake, with the number of player on Darryl
C. 2:1:0:2/2:0:1:2 split This is the main proposition I'm looking at right now
D. 2:0:0:3 Similar to situation B, but a little harder
E. 1:0:0:4 Huh, risky. But possible. The Xamtheking vote has a total of 7 people on it, notably for me- Burbeting, Makai, and Boo Boo'n. I don't see scum going with this, but still possible
Who are those numbers? 1. In the first column, and of note to me, are Batsnacks, czartim, and fluxwavez. I think batsnacks may either be a neutral or, more likely, a town trying something. Leaving us with czartim and fluxwavez. 2. In the 2nd column, Rats Off To Ya, who has been acting off the entire game. I can probably go find specific examples. There's also the timing of his vote on ultron, and the reason- he felt deja vu from cthulhu 3. In the 3rd column, MattyG, who I at first dismissed as being non-active townie, until I noticed similar reasoning for voting for GLT during days 1 and 2 4. In the 4th column, and limiting it to the people I think we should look at: Makai, Boo Boo'n, Sawneeks, (Star Sketch), and Burbeting.
Here''s the scary thing about column 4- I don't have much on any of them. And none of them have died. And that really bothers me.
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Post by Hyperactivity on Dec 9, 2015 23:47:06 GMT -8
DAY TWO:Style:crimsonfirst xamtheking (henceforth assumed to be town) fireblend trigger batsnacks makai Splinter Swamped Zippedppinhead Style
GLT:burbeting 1280rats off to ya 1437mattyg 1546ultron87 1643timeaisis 1688Timeaisis:fluxwavez QuantumBro:Lollipop Dave:
cabot
septimius prime CornBurrito:Kingkitty GLTMakai:cornburrito
Xamtheking:Boo Boo'n Ultron87:QuantumBro Quite a bit tougher imo, but still interesting to look at. I don't fully trust any of the people voting for GLT. Maybe ultron87? 3 of my possible suspects voted separately from the two main groupd on day 2- fluxwavez, czartim, and to a lesser extent, boo boo'n In the main group, if you assume Xamtheking is town, and, based on reads (ugh), assume crimsonfist and batsnacks are also town, you're left with fireblend, who I have an eye on, trigger, who I haven't had an eye on, and makai, who is playing like makai does, so who knows?? I think the suspicious Style voters in this group are among the most dangerous, because they're all doing a good job of being town
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Post by Hyperactivity on Dec 9, 2015 23:56:23 GMT -8
Huh:
CzarTim:
Timeaisis:
Czar went on to do this 3 different times
Maybe czar is town? For now at least, this whole thing is giving me better vibes for him, except he might be bussing. But this feels not forced enough but also not slight enough to be simple bussing: he's actively drawing attention to the situation
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Post by kingkitty on Dec 10, 2015 0:10:29 GMT -8
well swamped, I hope we're all good people.
anyways, I'll try to write something worthwhile in the afternoon. But I have one nagging question, was Zipped attacked on night 2? is that why he decided to try this gambit? since he knew his days might be numbered?
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Post by kingkitty on Dec 10, 2015 0:18:36 GMT -8
I keep reading his role PM over and over and over and over. He was a 1-shot bulletproof. He could have kept quiet and build up a list of visitors. Then if he loses his bulletproof status, he could role claim in the open + point out any possible contradictions based on his visiting list.
So it has to be that...right? He must have been attacked on Night 2. Otherwise I don't understand his play at all lol. But if he was attacked, why didn't he mention this fact?
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Post by Hyperactivity on Dec 10, 2015 4:40:53 GMT -8
I keep reading his role PM over and over and over and over. He was a 1-shot bulletproof. He could have kept quiet and build up a list of visitors. Then if he loses his bulletproof status, he could role claim in the open + point out any possible contradictions based on his visiting list. So it has to be that...right? He must have been attacked on Night 2. Otherwise I don't understand his play at all lol. But if he was attacked, why didn't he mention this fact? He wanted to claim a role scum would ttry and kill. He still had his BP, but he wanted to catch scum with it
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