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Post by Ourobolus on Dec 17, 2015 13:28:09 GMT -8
I can't view the spreadsheet from here so I could be wrong. But definitely Boo boo that one time.
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Post by Swamped on Dec 17, 2015 13:30:03 GMT -8
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Post by crimsonfist on Dec 17, 2015 13:30:04 GMT -8
Why did everyone think that we were killing deputies? Why on earth would we have done that?
We killed Cabot because we followed him and worked out that he was the doctor, the deputy thing was just a coincidence.
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Post by palmer on Dec 17, 2015 13:35:08 GMT -8
He saved boo boo for sure. He did burb bst boo and boo. Scum in that time did mattyg burb boo/rats ultron
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Post by Sophia on Dec 17, 2015 13:38:55 GMT -8
Oh my god I can't stop laughing. This is too funny.
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Post by FluxWaveZ on Dec 17, 2015 13:46:37 GMT -8
Sawneeks is seemingly following my path.
Had I known things weren't quite as dire as I had thought when I was utterly cornered, I probably would have at least deputized one of our own.
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Post by Rats Off To Ya on Dec 17, 2015 13:52:36 GMT -8
Never throw in the towel as scum. You're Town until the very moment you die.
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Post by crimsonfist on Dec 17, 2015 13:54:27 GMT -8
That was the biggest mistake. You absolutely had to keep double vote with the scum team to keep the town in LYLO, then we'd have still won if we got the double kill. I hoped that at the very least, one of the remaining scum would have used that fact against Time.
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Post by Burbeting on Dec 17, 2015 13:58:09 GMT -8
Never throw in the towel as scum. You're Town until the very moment you die. Same as town. You never, ever, ever give up. If you are being lynched as town, at least give the town as much of your thoughts as possible, before your time is up. Although I know it can be hard to be motivated in the brink of death, I know.
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Post by xamtheking on Dec 17, 2015 13:58:19 GMT -8
Sawneeks What r u doing Like Die with dignity
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Post by FluxWaveZ on Dec 17, 2015 13:59:19 GMT -8
That was the biggest mistake. You absolutely had to keep double vote with the scum team to keep the town in LYLO, then we'd have still won if we got the double kill. I hoped that at the very least, one of the remaining scum would have used that fact against Time. Well, I'd probably say the biggest mistake was the immediate bandwagon to kill you... followed by the big mistake of aiming to kill CzarTim even though he explicitly stated in the thread who we should have targeted that day, but that was also a mistake. Though, it wasn't a complete surrender. I knew I was going to be lynched that day, but my thought process was to throw the Deputize command on Timeaisis, who was one of the suspects next to you, Rats. I was hoping that'd make people doubt Time's alignment, but it had 0 splash.
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Post by crimsonfist on Dec 17, 2015 14:08:08 GMT -8
I stand by the plan to kill me. If we didn't kill me, town would have killed you due to your terrible role claim, and then Makai due to the "control" slipup.
Targeting CzarTim was the mistake.
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Post by xamtheking on Dec 17, 2015 14:10:43 GMT -8
Am I allowed to berate TIm on his broken links or is that too meta
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Post by FluxWaveZ on Dec 17, 2015 14:13:16 GMT -8
I actually don't think that role claim was all that bad; what do others think? It seemed CzarTim was coming around to it right as the bandwagon started, since he noted the difference between ours: www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=189364286&postcount=3029I think you would have still been the primary target for that day's lynch, so we didn't have to turbo anything like we did. That was just arrogance, greed and impatience rolled into one. We could have taken our time, and the result would have been the same at the end of the day, except without the extra suspicion cast on each one of us, and without a mistarget for the night kill.
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Post by ultron87 on Dec 17, 2015 14:14:06 GMT -8
Same as town. You never, ever, ever give up. If you are being lynched as town, at least give the town as much of your thoughts as possible, before your time is up. Although I know it can be hard to be motivated in the brink of death, I know. Yeah, when town, if I'm about to die, I get motivated by the fact that very soon everyone will get to see that I was being genuine the whole time. You gotta at least set yourself up to have a good "told you so" from the grave.
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Post by crimsonfist on Dec 17, 2015 14:16:59 GMT -8
I actually don't think that role claim was all that bad; what do others think? It seemed CzarTim was coming around to it right as the bandwagon started, since he noted the difference between ours: www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=189364286&postcount=3029I think you would have still been the primary target for that day's lynch, so we didn't have to turbo anything like we did. That was just arrogance, greed and impatience rolled into one. We could have taken our time, and the result would have been the same at the end of the day, except without the extra suspicion cast on each one of us, and without a mistarget for the night kill. The turbo was needed so that I would be around to place the final vote on myself so that I got to chose a deputy. Due to timezones and me being fairly busy for the past few days, there's a good chance that I'd have missed that window.
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Post by FluxWaveZ on Dec 17, 2015 14:23:10 GMT -8
The turbo was needed so that I would be around to place the final vote on myself so that I got to chose a deputy. Due to timezones and me being fairly busy for the past few days, there's a good chance that I'd have missed that window. I still really can't agree with it. We were in a 6 v 7 situation. Let's say you didn't even get to deputize anyone and it RNG'd into Town AND we mistargeted, it'd be 5 v 6 w/ Town having the voting power of 7. There would still be a very good chance for a mislynch in that situation, and we could still have the chance to Turbo because mistargeted votes would be 100% inevitable in that scenario. I can't agree with the rushing strategy. Far, far too risky, and I'll definitely be avoiding it in the future.
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Post by palmer on Dec 17, 2015 14:27:12 GMT -8
Bussing crimson was a great idea. Turboing crimson as a team was totally not needed. I'd bet crimson was doomed with as few as two wolf votes if you had waited for town to pile on more.
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Post by cornb on Dec 17, 2015 14:40:53 GMT -8
I stand by the plan to kill me. If we didn't kill me, town would have killed you due to your terrible role claim, and then Makai due to the "control" slipup. Targeting CzarTim was the mistake. I thought you guys entered the day with the intention of bussing you. It was only a plan that came to be because Flux and Makai slipped up role claims?
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Post by FluxWaveZ on Dec 17, 2015 14:45:49 GMT -8
I stand by the plan to kill me. If we didn't kill me, town would have killed you due to your terrible role claim, and then Makai due to the "control" slipup. Targeting CzarTim was the mistake. I thought you guys entered the day with the intention of bussing you. It was only a plan that came to be because Flux and Makai slipped up role claims? No, I had overslept, but they had come up with the plan to turbo Crimson immediately when the opportunity came after the results of the night phase where everyone burned came in, which is what happened.
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Post by crimsonfist on Dec 17, 2015 14:46:42 GMT -8
I stand by the plan to kill me. If we didn't kill me, town would have killed you due to your terrible role claim, and then Makai due to the "control" slipup. Targeting CzarTim was the mistake. I thought you guys entered the day with the intention of bussing you. It was only a plan that came to be because Flux and Makai slipped up role claims? No, Rat's role claim was a big part of the inspiration for it.
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Post by xamtheking on Dec 17, 2015 15:29:42 GMT -8
Poor Tim
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Post by Sophia on Dec 17, 2015 15:37:12 GMT -8
Bussing crimson was a great idea. Turboing crimson as a team was totally not needed. I'd bet crimson was doomed with as few as two wolf votes if you had waited for town to pile on more. Speaking of this, who came up with the idea to bus Crimson? Makai was very adamant about never bussing in the first game, so it doesn't sound like his kind of plan...
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Post by cabot on Dec 17, 2015 15:37:52 GMT -8
Well Makai is actually the better lynch choice, it's just Time and batsnacks don't have the real reason for it.
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Post by cabot on Dec 17, 2015 15:38:34 GMT -8
Bussing crimson was a great idea. Turboing crimson as a team was totally not needed. I'd bet crimson was doomed with as few as two wolf votes if you had waited for town to pile on more. Speaking of this, who came up with the idea to bus Crimson? Makai was very adamant about never bussing in the first game, so it doesn't sound like his kind of plan... Pretty sure he was okay with bussing Dave later in the game where it would be close to causing a win. Seems to meet the same conditions
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Post by crimsonfist on Dec 17, 2015 15:41:04 GMT -8
Bussing crimson was a great idea. Turboing crimson as a team was totally not needed. I'd bet crimson was doomed with as few as two wolf votes if you had waited for town to pile on more. Speaking of this, who came up with the idea to bus Crimson? Makai was very adamant about never bussing in the first game, so it doesn't sound like his kind of plan... It was my plan. Originally we were just going to go with Tim's "make me deputise Rat then we both die" plan, but what we tried for should have put us an extra kill ahead over that one. Makai was completely on board with it though. and Makai's going to try targeting Tim again tonight
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Post by Sophia on Dec 17, 2015 15:42:20 GMT -8
Legitimately surprised Makai was on board for that. It doesn't seem like his style at all.
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Post by Sophia on Dec 17, 2015 15:47:10 GMT -8
I do agree with Palmer that bussing Crimson was a great idea tho, and that the turbo was not needed. Evidence would have naturally fallen towards Crimson being alive and everyone was buying what Crimson was saying pretty fantastically.
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Post by FluxWaveZ on Dec 17, 2015 15:54:43 GMT -8
Ooh, a heroic sacrifice. I love those.
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Post by cornb on Dec 17, 2015 15:58:54 GMT -8
Legitimately surprised Makai was on board for that. It doesn't seem like his style at all. Makai got addicted to needless gambits in Dangan. That fuck.
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