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Post by Mazre on Nov 18, 2015 17:29:44 GMT -8
"I doubt it is the last one because usually communication breakdown happens as scum die, not from the start."
Heh.
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Post by karu on Nov 19, 2015 1:49:46 GMT -8
Ugh, I hate the first day, haha. I want to say something, but... why bother? No one has me on their radar and the ones who mention me, generally don't in a dangerous way. Just chill and relax, I guess... Can't wait for Night 1, Day 2, though.
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Post by Mazre on Nov 19, 2015 17:36:59 GMT -8
So just in case you guys missed it, looks like TL21XX is claiming to be or possibly have knowledge of a role with a 1 shot double lynch power that's activated the previous night. The whole thing could be a lie though in an attempt to lightning rod a kill from us, that may be the aim as well even if he's telling the truth. My take is we should leave it alone for night 1 in case he's hoping to draw a watcher/doctor to himself and to catch one of us in the act. In the event there is a double lynch, this early in the game it would likely benefit us more than town since they don't have much to go on yet.
If he's telling the truth about knowing about someone elses role I can only surmise he has a day ability of some sort or perhaps his role provided certain information at the games outset.
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Post by Mazre on Nov 19, 2015 17:39:17 GMT -8
Currently leaning towards inviting Sorian to my gossip chat. Thinking Karu may want to use his power on Ty4on. Was leaning towards killing TL21XX prior to his reveal, need to think about another target now though. Thoughts/objections/etc?
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Post by karu on Nov 20, 2015 6:21:35 GMT -8
Thinking Karu may want to use his power on Ty4on. Thoughts/objections/etc? Just like to know why you would choose him, genuinely. How do you see the power? It's not the most powerful one, but can slightly change the course of the perception of one individual, I guess. If you target someone who posts a lot, it will probably, maybe cripple their ability to push like they have before. Though, the power will become apparent right away, because why the heck would Sorian suddenly only post images, heh. So.. you might target a low-activity-person, which - for the few posts someone like that writes - would him maybe put him into a similiar Darklighter-position. What the heck is he/she doing? We have nothing to go on what you've said before and now this? Dunno. Maybe choose a person that already acts weird, thinking Scrafty here or someone who's roleplaying. Might make the power void, because "Well, it's like... her", but dunno, mayb it draws additional unwanted attention to her. So yeah... how what's your line of thinking utilizing the power? As I have proven yesterday, I'm not reaaaaly up to snuff as promised beforehand. So sorry bout that. At least it gave me some leeway in the sense that "I tried".
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Post by Retro on Nov 20, 2015 6:30:39 GMT -8
Mazre, this is just a reminder that your ability is a daytime action, so I will need your command within the next few hours.
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Post by Mazre on Nov 20, 2015 6:40:19 GMT -8
My current rational for your power is to use it as another chance to dig up our hidden partner. As you say your power is sort of oddball since it has a random element and depends somewhat on the activity level of the target. The most important part for us is that if we happen to target our partner it will convert them, and do so without consuming our kill for the night. We know that our partner knows our names and I think there's a good chance they have the same blurb about the neutral player. Ty40n made a very specific reference to you early on and also brought up the possibility of a night-kill immune neutral. This is all colored by the fact that I'm looking for signals but at this point it seems like the best we have to go on. As an added bonus Ty4on is off the radar enough at this point that it's unlikely he's under surveillance by a watcher at the moment, we have tl21xx to thank for that.
There's also one further concern with your ability now that I think on it a little more. There's a chance that being hit with it may cause people to view that person as town since it's hard to conceive of your ability as being a town power role. We may have to get creative in our application of your power. It's hard to predict for sure how it will play out.
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Post by Mazre on Nov 20, 2015 6:41:20 GMT -8
Mazre, this is just a reminder that your ability is a daytime action, so I will need your command within the next few hours. Yep, not forgotten, thanks for the reminder though.
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Post by razmos on Nov 20, 2015 8:11:31 GMT -8
I think Sorian is a pretty good choice to add to the gossip chat
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Post by Mazre on Nov 20, 2015 10:39:22 GMT -8
So Sorian is Dana Cardinal, the town gossip. Womp womp.
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Post by razmos on Nov 20, 2015 10:42:31 GMT -8
Interesting that Dana is the gossip and not something with more power, like the Mayor
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Post by Mazre on Nov 20, 2015 10:50:33 GMT -8
Sorian thinks the person he invited may have been breadcrumbing for an investigator role.
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Post by razmos on Nov 20, 2015 11:00:28 GMT -8
Wait, so you, a gossip, invited Sorian, another gossip, into your chat? Does he know it is you? what made him spill the beans about his role? I'm confused
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Post by Mazre on Nov 20, 2015 11:08:00 GMT -8
Yeah, he got pretty spooked about being invited to a gossip chat. I pretty much had to play it 100% straight, so I am The Faceless Old Woman Who Secretly Lives In Everyone's Homes and I'm a gossip. His questions were sufficiently on point that I realized he was either a gossip or had been invited to another gossip chat. After playing 20 questions he volunteered his information.
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Post by Mazre on Nov 20, 2015 15:55:19 GMT -8
Sorian: Hey Mazre, silly question from Ty4on and I, what's your win condition? Me (internally): Shit. Me: You win when only Town-aligned players remain. Sorian: Yeah, checks out, well that makes me feel a little better about things.
So I'm either golden or....completely screwed.
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Post by razmos on Nov 20, 2015 17:11:40 GMT -8
Ruh roh. That could go either way
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Post by Ourobolus on Nov 20, 2015 18:43:12 GMT -8
lol
godddamn i need to listen to nightvale to catch up to all this shit
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Post by palmer on Nov 20, 2015 19:49:11 GMT -8
Sorian: Hey Mazre, silly question from Ty4on and I, what's your win condition? Me (internally): Shit. Me: You win when only Town-aligned players remain. Sorian: Yeah, checks out, well that makes me feel a little better about things. So I'm either golden or....completely screwed. Isn't that listed in the sample role PM... ?
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Post by yn on Nov 20, 2015 19:51:46 GMT -8
Sorian: Hey Mazre, silly question from Ty4on and I, what's your win condition? Me (internally): Shit. Me: You win when only Town-aligned players remain. Sorian: Yeah, checks out, well that makes me feel a little better about things. So I'm either golden or....completely screwed. Isn't that listed in the sample role PM... ? no. retro is a cruel, cruel glow cloud.
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Post by Retro on Nov 21, 2015 21:00:55 GMT -8
It was pointed out to me that it is not fair that I did not include the full role pm. It's a little late, but I edited all of the sordid details into Darklighter's Death Post.
Also, I have not recieved any actions from the Scum team. I know you've got some time left and you're still discussing it, but consider this a friendly reminder.
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Post by razmos on Nov 22, 2015 4:08:45 GMT -8
Hey guys, just letting you know that if you want me to be the one who sends the kill PM then we'll have to decide within the next 12 hours. I'm starting a new job tomorrow and don't know if I'll be able to get home in time for the night phase ending.
It's probably a good idea for us to start discussing it.
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Post by Mazre on Nov 22, 2015 5:36:00 GMT -8
=( screwed it is then, ah well, just have to roll with it I suppose. Current backup is to claim I'm neutral night-kill immune if it comes down to it. At the least it may give a clue on to who it actually is. Back shortly with thoughts on targets for kill/confuse.
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Post by Mazre on Nov 22, 2015 7:00:39 GMT -8
Alright then kill options:
Stanleypalmtree - The super safe choice minimal info to town since he hasn't said anything; con - low activity players are beneficial to mafia at this point in the game I think since town has to consider a policy lynch ty40n - possible investigator (unconfirmed); con - throws heavy suspicion on me (though we have reason to believe there is already considerable suspicion there), since it's the night he was invited Sorian would get a do over on his first invite squidyj - strong player who's bound to stir up trouble for us; cons - throws suspicion onto Razmos, however squidy's been so focused on razmos you'd probably be able to spin that as mafia trying to frame razmos (problem being I don't think I could credibly advance that narrative and it would be best obviously if it was someone other than razmos and I'm not sure we want Karu sticking his neck into that mess at this point) absolutbro - might be a decent choice fireblend - has said a lot but hasn't been narrow in his accusations in my mind, let's us buck the trend of aiming for the middle of the pack
glowcloud target- pretty much anyone other than ty40n/tl21xx/sorian/our kill target (secondary option would be one of us)
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Post by razmos on Nov 22, 2015 9:16:25 GMT -8
I think out of those, Fireblend seems like the best option.
Stanley is a good scapegoat for now. Ty40n is too dangerous for you Squidyj is too dangerous for me absolutbro is a good option, but he doesn't post as much as Fireblend.
Killing fireblend will deprive them of a good player early without throwing suspicion on anyone else, it seems like a safe bet for night 1.
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Post by Mazre on Nov 22, 2015 9:44:58 GMT -8
Works for me, I'd say give Karu some time to chime in but put in the kill when you have to. Congrats and good luck with the new job.
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Post by razmos on Nov 22, 2015 9:52:36 GMT -8
Thanks man I'll give it another 6 hours to see if Karu has anything to say about it, or if we come up with a better idea
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Post by Mazre on Nov 22, 2015 9:59:43 GMT -8
Just a quick update- Sorian is now claiming to have invited Coppa instead of Ty4on, we'll get some confirmation of this tomorrow due to a phrase exchange I requested earlier. For now we're playing nice but I'm all but certain they're just playing along until my gossip chat fills up, which buys me 2 day phases, maybe on more if we kill one of my invites the night they join. I still think fireblend is the way to go for now for kill and like I said pretty much anyone who we haven't touched upon is up for glowclouding.
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Post by razmos on Nov 22, 2015 11:57:31 GMT -8
Maybe we should Glow Cloud Seath, or someone else who people are already suspicious of. If they start acting strangely it will attract focus to them for the day.
Or perhaps we could Glow Cloud a player like Squidyj to PUT suspicion on them
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Post by Mazre on Nov 22, 2015 12:09:28 GMT -8
Certainly options, the only problem comes from the fact that the other players may just associate the strange behavior with a mafia action and therefore treat it as a sign that the player isn't mafia. Good chance people have seen the HP thread and that certainly gave Blarg some clout when he couldn't use vowels. Dunno guess they could think someone is faking for some reason but is there any plausible reason for them to do so?
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Post by razmos on Nov 22, 2015 12:15:19 GMT -8
Hmm, that is true. If we get someone who has posted a lot then it would seem too noticable for them to suddenly change the way they talk. So it would probably have to be someone who does talk, but not a lot.
I would actually suggest using it on me, then you could chime in with "He's talking differently, perhaps mafia used an action on him?" or something to that effect, to remove the suspicion around me. But Squidyj.. I dunno, he seems to find my very existence suspicious.
He's definitely going to push for my lynch tomorrow. :/
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