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Post by faddy on Feb 22, 2017 0:12:01 GMT -8
This is how I see the end game playing out.
Sorian made his read and will stick with it. He will vote for Natiko or Flux
Star seems like she will follow Sorian
So it comes down to Ty. To me he is thinking Sorian is right but just needs to feel him out. He is worried this is a Sorian/Natiko team which is actually logical since they have been buddies up to this point but now seem set against each other.
If I were advising scum the move might be for Flux to engage with Sorian and agree to lynch Natiko. Then Flux kills Star and we have a last day with Sorian and Flux vote for each other and Ty has to pick between them.
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Post by Splinter on Feb 22, 2017 0:35:36 GMT -8
This is how I see the end game playing out. Sorian made his read and will stick with it. He will vote for Natiko or Flux Star seems like she will follow Sorian So it comes down to Ty. To me he is thinking Sorian is right but just needs to feel him out. He is worried this is a Sorian/Natiko team which is actually logical since they have been buddies up to this point but now seem set against each other. If I were advising scum the move might be for Flux to engage with Sorian and agree to lynch Natiko. Then Flux kills Star and we have a last day with Sorian and Flux vote for each other and Ty has to pick between them. Yeah agree with all of this. Flux is wasting time going for Sketch today. He won't get the lynch and will probably have to kill her tonight anyway. He needs to vote Nat while making sure Sorian gets all the credit. I don't think going for Sketch is scummy, exactly, just not helping him towards his goal. Especially if they want to swing this into a Sorian lynch today. I feel like scum are still throwing accusations at everyone? By this point you should really have an idea of who you're accusing and who you're trying to convince (even if you are town, I mean). It's fine to still be looking at everyone (like Ty is doing with Sorian) but if you have strong suspicions on anyone then everyone else has to be a lean town just by process of elimination. |
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Post by faddy on Feb 22, 2017 1:34:59 GMT -8
One thing that might be under the radar is what if StarSketch is a neutral. I guess her FA forced her to use her override and it would make sense for that to be a 2nd neutral role.
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Post by Burbeting on Feb 22, 2017 8:47:38 GMT -8
That fake FA from Natiko is absurdly weak.
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Post by Splinter on Feb 22, 2017 8:48:08 GMT -8
Lol, RIP Natiko
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Post by crimsonfist on Feb 22, 2017 8:49:34 GMT -8
Backup alignment cop seems fine, town often has more than one investigative role.
But not being able to name claim...I'd have gone for something that neutered the utility of the role in some way if it was real, and I don't think that no name claiming is believable.
Got lucky with picking night 1 though, since Sorian is an odd night commuter, but throwing in the role blocking part too kind of neuters that.
Could be worse, he was considering Watcher.
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Post by Blargonaut on Feb 22, 2017 8:56:40 GMT -8
omg the "scumputer", I think I forgot to comment on that comment:  beautiful tech sublime |
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Post by faddy on Feb 22, 2017 9:07:40 GMT -8
The only thing that would make Natiko's claim funnier is if he cribs his role name from Terra and calls himself Penultimate Sherlock Holmes Fan
Wait I mis-read, he claims his FA is that he can't give his role name but can say the role type and the mechanic. lol
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Post by Sophia on Feb 22, 2017 9:16:24 GMT -8
GAMBIT TIME.
:O
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Post by Sophia on Feb 22, 2017 9:27:35 GMT -8
Now the question remains: How much should Flux distance himself from this gambit?
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Post by faddy on Feb 22, 2017 9:57:19 GMT -8
I think that was the wrong moment for this post
Natiko to Sorian
I get the idea of Natiko attacking Sorian (coming off his initial flux/ty read) as a sort of fake/confusion for the last day but this strong play gets busted when Natiko flips scum and shows he knew what scum were thinking which invalidates the line of attack.
If we have a final 3 of Ty, Sorian and Flux doesn't that post make a hell of a lot more sense coming from Flux proving to Ty that Sorian is scum. Sorian separated himself from scummates and took the chance to plant a vote on Bronx for town cred. Totally a scum move.
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Post by crimsonfist on Feb 22, 2017 14:56:27 GMT -8
No reactions to that role claim at all? :/
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Post by Splinter on Feb 22, 2017 15:10:43 GMT -8
Backup alignment cop seems fine, town often has more than one investigative role. But not being able to name claim...I'd have gone for something that neutered the utility of the role in some way if it was real, and I don't think that no name claiming is believable. Got lucky with picking night 1 though, since Sorian is an odd night commuter, but throwing in the role blocking part too kind of neuters that. Could be worse, he was considering Watcher. The role is fine, but it just feels so out of nowhere. I guess Natiko felt obliged to claim non-ordinary, under the circumstances. And yeah the FA doesn't fit it very well either. I don't think that claim will hold up to much scrutiny (town is afk I guess). |
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Post by Splinter on Feb 22, 2017 15:19:43 GMT -8
Oh right, Nat got lucky with Sorian's role info. I missed that.
Damn.
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Post by Sophia on Feb 22, 2017 15:46:43 GMT -8
Oh right, Nat got lucky with Sorian's role info. I missed that. Damn. Impressive guess on his part. |
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Post by ynnek7 on Feb 22, 2017 16:47:02 GMT -8
I feel like the scum having an override ability discussion already came up? Vampire also had one.
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Post by crimsonfist on Feb 22, 2017 17:00:10 GMT -8
Pretty sure Topo put that in Vampire because of Sorian being so insistent against it  |
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Post by crimsonfist on Feb 22, 2017 17:05:54 GMT -8
Hooray, flavour arguments v_v
Although I did intentionally write the EOD override flavour as not too scummy to balance out the overly scummy command.
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Post by Sophia on Feb 22, 2017 17:53:33 GMT -8
Hooray, flavour arguments v_v The bane of all gamerunners everywhere. Well that, and inactive players. |
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Post by Sophia on Feb 22, 2017 22:25:17 GMT -8
Flux vs Sorian thunderdome huh?
This could make or break the game for scum. One vote on Sorian is all scum needs, but there's also the possible potential for Natiko to bus too.
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Post by OceanicAir on Feb 22, 2017 23:02:51 GMT -8
Flux vs Sorian thunderdome huh? This could make or break the game for scum. One vote on Sorian is all scum needs, but there's also the possible potential for Natiko to bus too. Yup, Natiko has said throughout the day that he thinks that Flux is scum. To flip and side with Flux could be potentially harmful. I just hope now they don't take an opportunity to finally vote for a high volume poster and stick with a gut read. |
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Post by Sophia on Feb 22, 2017 23:58:56 GMT -8
Flux vs Sorian thunderdome huh? This could make or break the game for scum. One vote on Sorian is all scum needs, but there's also the possible potential for Natiko to bus too. Yup, Natiko has said throughout the day that he thinks that Flux is scum. To flip and side with Flux could be potentially harmful. I just hope now they don't take an opportunity to finally vote for a high volume poster and stick with a gut read. Star could easily vote for Sorian too; she's passive enough with her vote that she's unpredictable. Or alternatively, Natiko busses Flux, shoots Sorian in the night, and it becomes Natiko/StarSketch/Ty4on. |
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Post by Sophia on Feb 23, 2017 0:09:15 GMT -8
Flux needs to be careful. Should he be lynched, saying the wrong thing right now could easily lead to town confirming Sorian and Star.
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Post by OceanicAir on Feb 23, 2017 0:16:14 GMT -8
Yup, Natiko has said throughout the day that he thinks that Flux is scum. To flip and side with Flux could be potentially harmful. I just hope now they don't take an opportunity to finally vote for a high volume poster and stick with a gut read. Star could easily vote for Sorian too; she's passive enough with her vote that she's unpredictable. Or alternatively, Natiko busses Flux, shoots Sorian in the night, and it becomes Natiko/StarSketch/Ty4on. Can't kill Sorian since he'd be commuting tonight. I agree with you about Star regarding her passivity. I think Sorian might could be seen as too aggressive with the vote, but I hope people realized it was gonna come to a head with Ty's vote anyways. But I think if flux dies today, star dies tonight. |
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Post by OceanicAir on Feb 23, 2017 0:30:34 GMT -8
Why'd he unvote? If Flux is supposed to be town then either Sorian is scum and Flux should vote him anyways or Sorian is town and town is super boned. Either way an unvote for the person trying to kill you shouldn't help your own cause, if you're town.
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Post by nin1000 on Feb 23, 2017 0:32:07 GMT -8
i am saddened that no one followed Blarg. He was right with natiko yet everyone is ignoring it . SAD!
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Post by Splinter on Feb 23, 2017 0:39:43 GMT -8
Sorian v Flux, eh? Interesting. I don't remember Ty's position on Flux. I suspect Star will wait for Ty's vote. If Natiko votes Sorian then Star "might" follow but it's very risky, he should just bus. i am saddened that no one followed Blarg. He was right with natiko yet everyone is ignoring it . SAD! His arguments were terrible though. Pushing a lynch with such poor reasoning is a good way to protect someone, if anything. |
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Post by Splinter on Feb 23, 2017 0:45:29 GMT -8
I'm amazed Natiko got away with his PR claim. His excuse for not claiming earlier is he was trying to avoid a night kill, but after using his shot he was essentially ordinary - attracting a night kill is exactly what you should be doing.
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Post by Splinter on Feb 23, 2017 3:58:32 GMT -8
Dmanit Ty you've examined everything BUT the role claim.
And Sorian is overworried about his own potential lynch. It's understandable but it's led to him being quite sloppy today (which of course only makes his lynch more likely).
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Post by cabot on Feb 23, 2017 4:03:28 GMT -8
Ty is such a good person to have around end game, because he's very hard to clearly town read and he tunnels so hard, usually from incorrect reads.
Or, you know, he's scum and just as hard to read.
I need to kill Ty forevermore.
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