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Post by yn on Jan 29, 2017 16:51:16 GMT -8
Someone remind me to put in a bunch of mean cops in my next game. or i will pay whoever mods the next game Kyan is in to make him a cop. the identity crisis shitposts would be beautiful. ive thought about this for a long time and i have not yet dared to look at the rules to find out if it is an offence to self target every night as a cop spoder has not forgotten that kyan entered a pact with spoder about finishment of nano2016 or else kyan might be at the nasty end of being in a game with at least 5 (five) cops a spoder has discord transcript if required mods, please make cops unable to self target in future games, ty
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Post by melonrabbit on Jan 29, 2017 17:17:36 GMT -8
Sorry Sophia, that lynch was dumb and I blame it all on Ty4on 😆 In my defense I have to treat you as a blind spot or I'd still be lynching you every game Sorry melon, sorry I'm not sorry, although I guess I was wrong about you and Stan yet again I don't get a heart-felt apology??? :__: You and Cabot are the worst.
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Post by Ty4on on Jan 29, 2017 17:37:47 GMT -8
o.o;
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Post by CzarTim on Jan 29, 2017 18:30:13 GMT -8
If it's SK + Scum doesn't scum win automatically? Serial Killers typically need to be the last player alive, and they're functionally unable to complete that objective at that point. I thought SK wins in that scenario, because they have a higher kill priority typically. SK would win here since he can't be nk.
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Post by Ty4on on Jan 29, 2017 18:53:36 GMT -8
I got some weird Danganronpa feelings rn.
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Post by crimsonfist on Jan 29, 2017 19:09:59 GMT -8
I thought SK wins in that scenario, because they have a higher kill priority typically. SK would win here since he can't be nk. He's ascetic, not bulletproof.
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Post by absolutbro on Jan 29, 2017 20:12:16 GMT -8
SK would win here since he can't be nk. He's ascetic, not bulletproof. Honest question here for sawneeks and I guess game runners in general. Why is ascetic not in the same category as a tanner? There was, as far as I can figure, no way for us to find out there was an ascetic in the game. We weren't getting action reports, and naturally none of the investigation powers would work. It basically means from now on every single power will be have a "yeah or ascetic" caveat. That seems really, really annoying to have to asterisk into just about every nonreport action in every game. Like, I feel like it almost crosses into that "game runner is giving you false information" level of bastard. Not quite, but almost.
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Post by Ty4on on Jan 29, 2017 20:21:03 GMT -8
^^^^^^ I agree it is false information and the vagueness makes it harder to pick up than something more predictable like godfather. We used the role blocker to find the SK in DP. I don't think we ever speculated if they were ascetic. everyone is spelling my name right in the thread, my death was worth it! :') I gave everyone spelling your name wrong a slight town read
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Post by Sawneeks on Jan 29, 2017 23:19:57 GMT -8
He's ascetic, not bulletproof. Honest question here for sawneeks and I guess game runners in general. Why is ascetic not in the same category as a tanner? There was, as far as I can figure, no way for us to find out there was an ascetic in the game. We weren't getting action reports, and naturally none of the investigation powers would work. It basically means from now on every single power will be have a "yeah or ascetic" caveat. That seems really, really annoying to have to asterisk into just about every nonreport action in every game. Like, I feel like it almost crosses into that "game runner is giving you false information" level of bastard. Not quite, but almost. I'd say it falls under the same category as a Town Roleblock/Jailer. Scum Roleblocker never gets any sort of confirmation if their ability worked or not, so the same result would have occurred if Town had Roleblocked you as opposed to you straight targeting the Ascetic. The ability would have failed yet you would have never been told this was the case regardless of the scenario. We were never lying to you as we never told you anything in the first place when it came to the RB whether it succeeded or not. The next part is more-or-less up to the gamerunner, but it was entirely possible for you to receive some slight confirmation on Bronx's role. Terra is the only one of you who gets a confirmation response and he has the ability to get 1 of 3 responses: 1. Success, followed by the Item he stole 2. Failure, followed by a 'Your Target was not holding any items' 3. No Result Unfortunately after getting a success on Night 1 you hit Bronx, which gives you the 'No Result' since you can't target him, and then you hit Nin, one of the Item Vendors who can not have Items stolen from them and thus also resulted in a 'No Result'. If you had hit any other player who did not own an item you would have received the 2nd response, hinting that something stopped you with Bronx/Nin. So there was a slight way for you to get information it just never ended up playing out that way. This is also universal by the way, so if Splinter had targeted Bronx with the Name Cop he would have also received 'No Result' and Kawl ( Watcher ) could have received either 'No one visited your target', 'X visited your target', or the 'No Result' if he hit Bronx as well.
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Post by cabot on Jan 29, 2017 23:24:58 GMT -8
ascetic SK?
You thought following Sorian was the way to go?
For shame.
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Post by kyanrute on Jan 29, 2017 23:54:50 GMT -8
ive thought about this for a long time and i have not yet dared to look at the rules to find out if it is an offence to self target every night as a cop spoder has not forgotten that kyan entered a pact with spoder about finishment of nano2016 or else kyan might be at the nasty end of being in a game with at least 5 (five) cops a spoder has discord transcript if required mods, please make cops unable to self target in future games, ty ... LALALALALALALALALALALALALALA am sry spdre cannot hear you up from the tree, the wind is blowing so hard
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Post by Splinter on Jan 30, 2017 4:45:47 GMT -8
1 town, 2 neutrals, 2 scum, right?
This is going to be a weird final day.
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Post by Gorlak on Jan 30, 2017 4:52:37 GMT -8
<3 nin <3
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Post by Splinter on Jan 30, 2017 4:56:10 GMT -8
Nin has a good chance of winning this with scum, but he has to do it today I think.
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Post by acohrs on Jan 30, 2017 5:39:24 GMT -8
5 left, 2 scum, 2 neutrals, and 1 townie. Somehow, scum and SK will shoot themselves in the foot and town will win right in the end. That or both scum and SK both target Nin tonight
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Post by Burbeting on Jan 30, 2017 8:40:14 GMT -8
Does town even have a theoretical chance of winning any more?
Doesn't seem like it.
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Post by dusksoldier on Jan 30, 2017 8:53:11 GMT -8
I believe if you have 1 town, the item vendor, and either the SK or 1 scum. as final 3, then town can still win.
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Post by Gorlak on Jan 30, 2017 10:21:39 GMT -8
Good job Splinter, looks like no one understood that nin is neutral.
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Post by Sawneeks on Jan 30, 2017 10:22:40 GMT -8
FUCK, NIN SHOULD HAVE BEEN MALO.
didn't even think about that it would have been perfect.
damn it, is it too late to reroll the game?
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Post by Sawneeks on Jan 30, 2017 10:25:31 GMT -8
Does town even have a theoretical chance of winning any more? Doesn't seem like it. There is actually. They would need to Lynch Ynnek ( Scum ) today and then this coming Night Phase Scum and the SK would need to kill each other. Nin is going to fulfill his alternative win tonight unless he gets roleblocked so starting the next Day Phase only Magnum ( Town ) would be left.
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Post by crimsonfist on Jan 30, 2017 10:27:19 GMT -8
Does town even have a theoretical chance of winning any more? Doesn't seem like it. There is actually. They would need to Lynch Ynnek ( Scum ) today and then this coming Night Phase Scum and the SK would need to kill each other. Nin is going to fulfill his alternative win tonight unless he gets roleblocked so starting the next Day Phase only Magnum ( Town ) would be left. Doesn't Terra still have that bulletproof that he stole?
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Post by Sawneeks on Jan 30, 2017 10:29:41 GMT -8
There is actually. They would need to Lynch Ynnek ( Scum ) today and then this coming Night Phase Scum and the SK would need to kill each other. Nin is going to fulfill his alternative win tonight unless he gets roleblocked so starting the next Day Phase only Magnum ( Town ) would be left. Doesn't Terra still have that bulletproof that he stole? It was an active 1-shot and he used it on Night 2.
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Post by Lone_Prodigy on Jan 30, 2017 10:32:25 GMT -8
FUCK, NIN SHOULD HAVE BEEN MALO. didn't even think about that it would have been perfect. damn it, is it too late to reroll the game? Good idea for Zelda Mafia 2!
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Post by Sawneeks on Jan 30, 2017 10:51:12 GMT -8
FUCK, NIN SHOULD HAVE BEEN MALO. didn't even think about that it would have been perfect. damn it, is it too late to reroll the game? Good idea for Zelda Mafia 2! Yeah, but we gotta change it up you know. People will be expecting items so we got to do something different... Malo can be Scum Strongman...
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Post by Lone_Prodigy on Jan 30, 2017 11:27:06 GMT -8
Got to give them something they won't expect.
"No way they'd re-use Zelda Mafia 1 roles but crazier."
Super Zelda Mafia HD Ultimate Edition
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Post by natiko on Jan 30, 2017 11:53:20 GMT -8
The most likely situation is probably.. *Lynch Ynnek *Terra kills magnum/nin (probably magnum) *Bronx shoots magnum/nin (probably nin) Why wouldn't scum kill the "cleared" townie? I presumed that scum would be skeptical that he was Town and realize he's neutral since his items have already been openly speculated to not be as universally beneficial. Doesn't quite seem like they've reached that conclusion yet.
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Post by Splinter on Jan 30, 2017 12:29:43 GMT -8
Good job Splinter, looks like no one understood that nin is neutral. Intentional, needed scum to target nin. It didn't work though, nin can't draw a night kill even as a confirmed townie that literally hands out power roles -.-
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Post by Splinter on Jan 30, 2017 12:36:00 GMT -8
Oh boy Magnum would have jumped to the top of my suspect list for that post. Doesn't even consider that scum killed Kyan (which should have been the obvious option). Then throws shade at the one person I (wrongly) trusted. At least he's on the right track I guess. Why wouldn't scum kill the "cleared" townie? I presumed that scum would be skeptical that he was Town and realize he's neutral since his items have already been openly speculated to not be as universally beneficial. Doesn't quite seem like they've reached that conclusion yet. The item he gave to Kyan was useful though I think
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Post by kyanrute on Jan 30, 2017 13:30:02 GMT -8
Well had I lived I would've pushed for Ynnek lynch. Had that happened, I might've used the mirror on Bronx I think and that's where shit would've failed.
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Post by Sawneeks on Jan 30, 2017 14:11:00 GMT -8
I'm really enjoying the Nin show so far.
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