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Post by Ty4on on Jan 28, 2017 16:55:08 GMT -8
Edit: If scum and neutral both kill a townie each it's 1v1v2
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Post by CzarTim on Jan 28, 2017 18:42:50 GMT -8
Ty already dropped his name but Bronx is the SK....and he's killing Kyan tonight. Why? It's really anyone's guess at this point. :x pei4rak;jfljrhdpjuhdepjheafpjhoedfphjedfpjhfrpjhdepjedprdjuepiuedpujepujrpeuhrfphujdaef[iead[jdfaea[iedaf[iedafjefar[ipe[aefhdhpjefa
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Post by Sawneeks on Jan 28, 2017 23:07:54 GMT -8
Edit: If scum and neutral both kill a townie each it's 1v1v2 If Scum/SK both kill a different Townie there are still 5 players left, you're missing one.
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Post by Sawneeks on Jan 28, 2017 23:15:37 GMT -8
Also Nin could be the deciding factor for tomorrow....
Magnum will stick to Ynnek since he's been there for 2 Days now and Bronx isn't about to vote for himself.
Terra/Ynnek aren't going to vote for Ynnek and take Scum down one more member so they can easily default to Bronx since many people Scum read him.
That would be 2 on Bronx and 2 on Ynnek.
Nin would be the wild card that decides what happens. If he votes for Bronx then the SK dies and Scum win. If he votes for Ynnek then everything comes down to NK choices with Town possibly coming out of that massacre as the winner.
Everyone send Nin your energy, he might need it.
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Post by natiko on Jan 28, 2017 23:37:21 GMT -8
I still think it's game over for town unless there's some really bizarre NK choices.
For town to win it'd have to be like..
*Lynch Ynnek *Terra kills nin *Bronx shoots Terra
If town can win through nin then there's a better chance of town somehow pulling this off, but I'm not sure on how that all works.
The most likely situation is probably..
*Lynch Ynnek *Terra kills magnum/nin (probably magnum) *Bronx shoots magnum/nin (probably nin)
If they split the kills then I believe scum wins outright. If they go for the same target then scum likely wins via votes unless somehow Bronx convinces the living member to lynch Terra, but the way Bronx has been playing compared to Terra makes that seem very unlikely.
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Post by absolutbro on Jan 29, 2017 6:31:03 GMT -8
I did not think to ask and Ynnek did not say, but was he getting result PMs when he tried to block someone? If so, would it have been different at all blocking Bronx vs. anyone else with a night action to block?
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Post by natiko on Jan 29, 2017 9:15:06 GMT -8
I assume he isn't since he didn't know blocking Bronx did not work.
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Post by crimsonfist on Jan 29, 2017 9:33:18 GMT -8
Typically a role blocker would not receive notifications as to whether they were successful.
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Post by absolutbro on Jan 29, 2017 10:16:27 GMT -8
That's sort of what I figured.
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Post by absolutbro on Jan 29, 2017 10:17:33 GMT -8
I think Ty got feedback in Overwatch, but that probably had to do with the whole trap thing.
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Post by Sawneeks on Jan 29, 2017 11:32:51 GMT -8
I still think it's game over for town unless there's some really bizarre NK choices. For town to win it'd have to be like.. *Lynch Ynnek *Terra kills nin *Bronx shoots Terra If town can win through nin then there's a better chance of town somehow pulling this off, but I'm not sure on how that all works. The most likely situation is probably.. *Lynch Ynnek *Terra kills magnum/nin (probably magnum) *Bronx shoots magnum/nin (probably nin) If they split the kills then I believe scum wins outright. If they go for the same target then scum likely wins via votes unless somehow Bronx convinces the living member to lynch Terra, but the way Bronx has been playing compared to Terra makes that seem very unlikely. Nin can only win for Nin, he doesn't count as Town. But yeah, your first scenario is where Town could win by having Scum and the SK kill themselves. Super unlikely...but weirder things have happened so I'm not discounting it. The only thing that really messes up the second scenario is that Nin is going to win this coming Night Phase unless he is roleblocked. He has 2 items left, 1 of which he is giving away tonight meaning he only needs to Vend one more to win and then leave the game. So starting on Day 7 it's possible to have 2 deaths + Nin leaving, possibly leaving only two players in the game. If it's Town + Scum/SK then whoever the killer is wins. If it's SK + Scum...then it gets a little more gray.... I did not think to ask and Ynnek did not say, but was he getting result PMs when he tried to block someone? If so, would it have been different at all blocking Bronx vs. anyone else with a night action to block? He doesn't, although if he did he would have received a different PM when he hit Bronx.
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Post by Sophia on Jan 29, 2017 12:05:17 GMT -8
I still think it's game over for town unless there's some really bizarre NK choices. For town to win it'd have to be like.. *Lynch Ynnek *Terra kills nin *Bronx shoots Terra If town can win through nin then there's a better chance of town somehow pulling this off, but I'm not sure on how that all works. The most likely situation is probably.. *Lynch Ynnek *Terra kills magnum/nin (probably magnum) *Bronx shoots magnum/nin (probably nin) If they split the kills then I believe scum wins outright. If they go for the same target then scum likely wins via votes unless somehow Bronx convinces the living member to lynch Terra, but the way Bronx has been playing compared to Terra makes that seem very unlikely. Nin can only win for Nin, he doesn't count as Town. But yeah, your first scenario is where Town could win by having Scum and the SK kill themselves. Super unlikely...but weirder things have happened so I'm not discounting it. The only thing that really messes up the second scenario is that Nin is going to win this coming Night Phase unless he is roleblocked. He has 2 items left, 1 of which he is giving away tonight meaning he only needs to Vend one more to win and then leave the game. So starting on Day 7 it's possible to have 2 deaths + Nin leaving, possibly leaving only two players in the game. If it's Town + Scum/SK then whoever the killer is wins. If it's SK + Scum...then it gets a little more gray.... If it's SK + Scum doesn't scum win automatically? Serial Killers typically need to be the last player alive, and they're functionally unable to complete that objective at that point.
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Post by crimsonfist on Jan 29, 2017 12:10:13 GMT -8
Nin can only win for Nin, he doesn't count as Town. But yeah, your first scenario is where Town could win by having Scum and the SK kill themselves. Super unlikely...but weirder things have happened so I'm not discounting it. The only thing that really messes up the second scenario is that Nin is going to win this coming Night Phase unless he is roleblocked. He has 2 items left, 1 of which he is giving away tonight meaning he only needs to Vend one more to win and then leave the game. So starting on Day 7 it's possible to have 2 deaths + Nin leaving, possibly leaving only two players in the game. If it's Town + Scum/SK then whoever the killer is wins. If it's SK + Scum...then it gets a little more gray.... If it's SK + Scum doesn't scum win automatically? Serial Killers typically need to be the last player alive, and they're functionally unable to complete that objective at that point. I thought SK wins in that scenario, because they have a higher kill priority typically.
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Post by acohrs on Jan 29, 2017 12:12:25 GMT -8
bronx wont kill ynnek today as I think he will be thinking that town will lynch him tomorrow. Think that scum and SK will both hit splinter as that would fit their MOs
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Post by natiko on Jan 29, 2017 13:27:24 GMT -8
Wouldn't scum actually win then since they would be at 1 and Town would be at 0?
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Post by Lone_Prodigy on Jan 29, 2017 14:18:20 GMT -8
1 scum and SK left at day start is not a scum victory since they don't have majority.
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Post by kyanrute on Jan 29, 2017 15:21:40 GMT -8
Would've guessed Bronx for scum instead of Terra. Did not see Nin being neutral lol. As long as Bronx does not win I am happy. Well scum win would be meh too.
glory to comrade nin
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Post by Ty4on on Jan 29, 2017 15:30:49 GMT -8
Edit: If scum and neutral both kill a townie each it's 1v1v2 If Scum/SK both kill a different Townie there are still 5 players left, you're missing one. Derp, I thought it was 3v1v3 already
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Post by Ty4on on Jan 29, 2017 15:35:57 GMT -8
The most likely situation is probably.. *Lynch Ynnek *Terra kills magnum/nin (probably magnum) *Bronx shoots magnum/nin (probably nin) Why wouldn't scum kill the "cleared" townie?
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Post by yn on Jan 29, 2017 15:39:21 GMT -8
Would've guessed Bronx for scum instead of Terra. Did not see Nin being neutral lol. As long as Bronx does not win I am happy. Well scum win would be meh too. glory to comrade nin kyan <3 kyan was a glorious fighter of great village issues a spoder is a fan a spoder provides a tree for kyan, a sign of fondness
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Post by kyanrute on Jan 29, 2017 16:04:40 GMT -8
kyan is of acceptance to fondness tree of spidre
sword of village justice of cop slayings is put to rest against tree full of webs of spdere
no foul furry mammal of kyan eating in sight, kyan can zzz and wait for next ordinary adventure
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Post by Splinter on Jan 29, 2017 16:11:19 GMT -8
Aww I really thought I had it figured out this time
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Post by kyanrute on Jan 29, 2017 16:13:17 GMT -8
i said i was town splints
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Post by Splinter on Jan 29, 2017 16:14:14 GMT -8
Sorry Sophia, that lynch was dumb and I blame it all on Ty4on 😆 In my defense I have to treat you as a blind spot or I'd still be lynching you every game Sorry melon, sorry I'm not sorry, although I guess I was wrong about you and Stan yet again
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Post by Splinter on Jan 29, 2017 16:17:06 GMT -8
i said i was town splints Yeah blame the SK's garbage kill choices. Can't believe our best shot at winning is for everyone to ignore Magnum, which given his activity is not unlikely. Guess I have to root for scum at this point.
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Post by yn on Jan 29, 2017 16:17:49 GMT -8
Aww I really thought I had it figured out this time :(
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Post by kyanrute on Jan 29, 2017 16:23:37 GMT -8
Someone remind me to put in a bunch of mean cops in my next game. or i will pay whoever mods the next game Kyan is in to make him a cop. the identity crisis shitposts would be beautiful. ive thought about this for a long time and i have not yet dared to look at the rules to find out if it is an offence to self target every night as a cop
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Post by Sophia on Jan 29, 2017 16:24:05 GMT -8
Sorry Sophia, that lynch was dumb and I blame it all on Ty4on 😆 In my defense I have to treat you as a blind spot or I'd still be lynching you every game Sorry melon, sorry I'm not sorry, although I guess I was wrong about you and Stan yet again
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Post by Splinter on Jan 29, 2017 16:26:25 GMT -8
Sometimes though you have to lynch inactives Kawl, if only to send a statement. Not a single inactive player has come even close to being lynched, scum team could cruise this by basically not saying anything all game and at some point you have to risk a low information lynch by disrupting that. Day one or two preferably, depending on if there is am obvious scum day one. Yeah but we had to policy lynch day 2. Even if we went for an inactive on day 3 it probably would've been Magnum, and then this spec thread would have been full of the opposite complaint: "Town just lynching inactives not even looking for scum blah blah" and an even less interesting game.
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Post by Splinter on Jan 29, 2017 16:30:13 GMT -8
i guess it also comes down to ultimate motivation. Is your goal to win or have fun? Mine is to have fun, I approach the game as a logic puzzle to be unraveled and so I'll always prefer a more active player who provides more info to be lynched over an inactive. It gives me more to work with and I think it's more rewarding. If it leads me to lose a game so what I'd rather do it that way because a game with all of scum just coasting isn't really solvable anyways besides just random lynching inactives. And hopefully others like fun more since I can't imagine low posting as scum is fun even when it leads to victory. I'd rather a team of acohrs who loses in 7 days than a coasting team that wins in 4 days. Every time Yep, 100% with you. That's why as scum I don't kill active players unless I'm pretty sure they are a PR or confirmed town. +1 to this. Seen too many games killed early because scum was trying too hard. Not this one so much.
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