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Post by fat4all on Dec 12, 2016 16:39:28 GMT -8
just in case we wanna make it spicier
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Post by fat4all on Dec 12, 2016 16:40:50 GMT -8
bats, what a work of art
it's the red circle that really does it
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Post by drworm on Dec 12, 2016 16:42:21 GMT -8
if he's poisoner, we don't wanna take him out in case he's neutral (we're currently at either 4 mafia/6 town or 4 mafia/5 town/1 neutral), but it's still good to discredit him Is that the precedent for mafia win conditions in regards to neutrals. In past games I've assumed that's it's a matter of being equal to the number of players left, as in town and neutrals are lumped in as one. Could it just be a quirk of the role PM wording? I'm probably going to point out the flaw but not go in on follow up suspicious for the time being. Our win conditions are specifically worded as: It might be that El Topo meant to write it as you said, "unfortunate implication" and whatnot, but idk. El Topo, this would be as good a time as any to clarify.
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Post by drworm on Dec 12, 2016 16:49:32 GMT -8
just PM'd El Topo
if poisoner is town, it's meaningless, but if not, we kinda sorta really ought to know
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Post by drworm on Dec 12, 2016 16:51:45 GMT -8
also I like how half the people in that image are just cover roles for us
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Post by drworm on Dec 12, 2016 16:55:16 GMT -8
Smiling Jack is what I expect batsnacks to look like irl
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Post by fat4all on Dec 12, 2016 16:58:11 GMT -8
Smiling Jack is what I expect batsnacks to look like irl I expect he looks Goku, but with a cool mustache
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Post by batsnacks on Dec 12, 2016 17:08:26 GMT -8
Smiling Jack is what I expect batsnacks to look like irl pretty close actually before shaved my head and beard
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Post by drworm on Dec 12, 2016 17:13:33 GMT -8
should I do rousing defense of batsnacks? would that be appropriate? no copclaim, I promise
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Post by eltopodelgaf on Dec 12, 2016 17:17:10 GMT -8
Sorry it took a bit to answer. It's past 2am over here and I decided to relax. If there was a neutral and the situation was 4-1-4, then you would indeed win. My post was regarding something else, as I will gladly elaborate once the game is over.
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Post by drworm on Dec 12, 2016 17:20:06 GMT -8
Oh, I'm really sorry. Thank you.
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Post by eltopodelgaf on Dec 12, 2016 17:28:43 GMT -8
No worries.
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Post by drworm on Dec 12, 2016 17:29:18 GMT -8
Hobohodo, Dusk Soldier says we know CM commuted both N1 and N2, but we have no evidence of that, particularly when he's only a 2-shot commuter to begin with - it would mean he used both shots as soon as possible.
Definitely press him on this.
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Post by drworm on Dec 12, 2016 18:00:30 GMT -8
In fact, that's the premise of his claim that poisoner was blocked on N2, which is erroneous when we know Blargonaut was poisoned that night. He's also relying on the belief that Blargonaut and Mazre lied about their actions to say Blargonaut blocked a poisoner on N1.
If you're keeping score at home, he's reached this conclusion by getting all of the following wrong intentionally:
- no confirmation of CM commuting N1 and N2 - Blarg was poisoned N2 instead of N3, but claimed poison D3 - Blarg and Mazre roleblocked instead of switching - Poisoner wasn't blocked N2, because that's when Blarg was poisoned
all he has is that Zubz didn't detect Mazre and there was roleblocking, but is there another explanation for that?
I think Dusk might be a one-off poisoner
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Post by fat4all on Dec 12, 2016 18:02:40 GMT -8
I think either Dusk is the poisoner, or Ynnek7 is the poisoner.
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Post by drworm on Dec 12, 2016 18:05:50 GMT -8
I really hope someone claims poisoning, because that will all but guarantee that we win
even if we have to override today, get our next kill intercepted, and then get one of our own lynched tomorrow, ie worst case scenario, we're at 3 mafia/4 town at worst at D6 end, and we still win if we get the N6 NK off
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Post by fat4all on Dec 12, 2016 18:06:19 GMT -8
If no one was poisoned last night, there's a good chance Ynnek7 is the poisoner.
Dusk as a one-use poisoner is plausible as well.
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Post by fat4all on Dec 12, 2016 18:07:30 GMT -8
if bats doesn't accidentally override and hit the poisoner instead of town, we win immediately.
unless the poisoner is town aligned.
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Post by drworm on Dec 12, 2016 18:08:09 GMT -8
why Ynnek7?
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Post by batsnacks on Dec 12, 2016 18:09:50 GMT -8
dead game
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Post by drworm on Dec 12, 2016 18:10:39 GMT -8
should I post the bats defense, the Dusk grilling, or both?
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Post by fat4all on Dec 12, 2016 18:11:51 GMT -8
because we blocked him, and we're the only ones who could of blocked him
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Post by batsnacks on Dec 12, 2016 18:12:58 GMT -8
should I post the bats defense, the Dusk grilling, or both? up 2 u I'm okay with whatever
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Post by drworm on Dec 12, 2016 18:13:03 GMT -8
SS or Ynnek could still be poisoned, I guess
or it's X-shot
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Post by fat4all on Dec 12, 2016 18:13:08 GMT -8
I doubt a neutral poisoners goal would only be to kill 2 people
I just think Ynnek7 got unlucky every other night he tried to poison.
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Post by drworm on Dec 12, 2016 18:16:56 GMT -8
if our suspects for poison are Dusk and Ynnek, then our lynch goal should be SS, infinit, Trigger, or StMeph
any of them could go down pretty easily without much of a fight
easiest to hardest would be StMeph, Satanic Saint, infinit777, Trigger
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Post by fat4all on Dec 12, 2016 18:17:36 GMT -8
that "I'm no cop" line is like something out of my kdramas.
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Post by drworm on Dec 12, 2016 18:28:22 GMT -8
fat4all-kun, let us finish this game in a manner befitting the worthy servants of the great vampire masters
with honor and camaraderie, we shall usher in a new L.A., controlled by the dual hegemony of Hobohodo and batsnacks
go team!
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Post by fat4all on Dec 12, 2016 18:32:38 GMT -8
fat4all-kun, let us finish this game in a manner befitting the worthy servants of the great vampire masters with honor and camaraderie, we shall usher in a new L.A., controlled by the dual hegemony of Hobohodo and batsnacks go team!
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Post by drworm on Dec 12, 2016 18:34:41 GMT -8
is your theory just the Dusk Soldier stuff from above?
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