Okay knowing that Zeke shot Haly on Night 2 now, we should probably go back through everything regarding him for Day 3. We also need to look at whoever started a narrative regarding Zeke's shot. I'm leaving myself, yourself, Cabot and Nin out of this for now, for obvious reasons.
www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220404001&postcount=1802 - AbsolutBro: "Also whoever sniped Widowmaker. That has to hurt scum team."
www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220407941&postcount=1823 - Bronx-Man: "Who do you think killed Zeke? It could be town, but part of me thinks scum found him as too much of a liability."
www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220408205&postcount=1825 - Barrylocke: "So you think someone else killed ouro? Or that ezekel used that sniper to kill someone before he died?"
www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220408697&postcount=1829 - WhereAreMahDragonz: "A switcher, perhaps? ...Tracer?"
www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220408849&postcount=1831 - WhereAreMahDragonz: "Scum Zeke tries to mafia vig shot Ouro, succeeds through the BP (assuming Ouro used it) and someone else swapped the other maf with Zeke. Both die."
www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220409469&postcount=1839 - WhereAreMahDragonz: "A Genji reflect?"
www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220409721&postcount=1841 - franconp: "Everyone remembers when I said that maybe Ouro was crazy and had a grudge against Vere? Well I was right. And reaaaaaaally lucky. He claimed WM and catches Eze too? Reaaaaaaaaaaally lucky."
www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220409741&postcount=1842 - Bronx-Man: "There's good chance we're facing 2 scum left and a neutral."
www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220411301&postcount=1844 - Bronx-Man: "The quote says Widowmaker was killed via an arrow and that "the superior sniper won". That would suggest she was killed by Hanzo."
www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220412328&postcount=1853 - Xamtheking: "No, Haly, this is not a D.VA softclaim, that was an attempt at humor"
www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220412649&postcount=1856 - Bronx-Man: "Looking at Burb's posts, the two likeliest scum in my mind are Splinter and Cherry. Both wanted desperately to protect Vere and wanted Zeke vs Ouro. This is only helps my theory that Zeke got sacrificed in N2."
www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220412665&postcount=1857 - *Splinter: "I disagree. Verelios had been caught by a cop, his lynch could be delayed by a day or two at most. Zeke on the other hand had only claimed the truth and would have been fine once Ouro retracted his WM claim. I think the remaining scum were entirely on board with Verelios' lynch.
www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220413544&postcount=1861 - Xamtheking: "Honestly If Verelios didn't act how he did We'd probably have lynched a townie (Ouro) yesterday and probably wouldn't have killed scum last night"
www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220413633&postcount=1862 - WhereAreMahDragonz: "Genji has a move where he reflects enemy bullets back at them with his sword"
www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220413833&postcount=1864 - Bronx-Man: "Would Sorian really put multiple bulletproof players in one game?"
www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220414172&postcount=1865 - Xamtheking: "Would Sorian really put a tanner in a Gafia game?"
www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220415529&postcount=1875 - Bronx-Man: "So scum killing off Zeke is outlandish to you, but scum wanting to bus one of their own does?"
www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220415968&postcount=1877 - Xamtheking: "Bussing fellow scum can help build town cred"
www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220416445&postcount=1880 - Bronx-Man: "Good point. But I explained my reason for voting Vere quite easily. He was already #1 on my scum list for D2, and Ouro's argument for lynching him was convincing. The fact that he specifically said he was willing to get lynched on D3 if he was wrong helped prove in my eyes that he knew Vere was scum."
www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220416536&postcount=1881 - Xamtheking: "Right I don't think you're scum I just think you drank way too much coffee this morning"
www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220418145&postcount=1883 - Bronx-Man: "It's not exactly a huge leap to think that the woman's who character is literally "evil sniper" may be in this game as an evil sniper."
www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220422225&postcount=1894 - Bronx-Man: "Wasn't AB one of the bigger vote targets on D1? If he stopped posting as much on D2, it could've been to take the heat off himself while we were all focused on the V/Ouro/Zeke saga."
www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220425757&postcount=1902 - Bronx-Man: "You still really believe there's no cop in a Role Madness game. Huh."
www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220432937&postcount=1913 - franconp: "Did really Zeke protected Vere? I think Zeke just called Ouro's lie. Ouro was lying when he said he was the WM and Eze was really it."
www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220438560&postcount=1944 - Bronx-Man: "The alignments are random, but the powers aren't. Widowmaker's role would have to be related to her sniping ability in-game and town usually doesn't have snipers on their side. Ergo, it would've been pretty logical to guess the real Widowmaker was scum or neutral."
www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220438672&postcount=1945 - Haly: "I think it was a lucky guess, honestly. It was really just a reckless move that managed to pay off beyond anyone's expectations.I've never heard of a telepathic cop before. Do people really think Ouro might've been given Verelios' alignment, rather than guessing well twice in a row?"
www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220439256&postcount=1950 - Bronx-Man: "If there's a sniper on our side, it could be Hanzo or Ana. It could've also been a neutral that wanted to get rid of Eze at night."
www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220440208&postcount=1954 - Bronx-Man: "Francomp suggested a townie sniper killed Eze, I'm just going off of that."
www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220441524&postcount=1960 - Bronx-Man: "I'm not up to speed on all the roles, but town doesn't usually have snipers do they?"
www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220443373&postcount=1971 - WhereAreMahDragonz: "So Fran you're a transporter of sorts? Or do you control who one targets?"
www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220443808&postcount=1972 - Bronx-Man: "Ynnek's power was flashbang, same power McCree has in-game. Vere's was a shield based off of Lucio's in-game sound barrier. Ouro was armorsmith, based off Torbjorn who is literally a fucking blacksmith. Zeke was WM, and his ability was.......SNIPING! So for the last time, I don't think the ALIGNMENTS (Good, evil, neutral) match the characters in-game BUT THE POWERS WE HAVE DO. But it's obvious this discussion is going nowhere, so consider it dropped."
www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220444276&postcount=1976 - StanleyPalmtree: "but you specifically tried to link WM ability to her alignment."
www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220444400&postcount=1977 - Bronx-Man: "Is it possible for town to have snipers, yes or no? If yes, then I'm a fucking dumbass."
www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220444828&postcount=1981 - Bronx-Man: "I completely forgot we had vigilantes. The only alignments I thought could use sniping at night were scum and neutral SKs."
www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220444868&postcount=1982 - StanleyPalmtree: "i dont know, but you made the point that WM had to be a sniper, which is not the case, and then went from there to say that WM had to be scum or neutral, the first step here is the flaw in your logic."
www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220460325&postcount=2016 - nin1000: "Bronx. Do you think someone else than me killed EzekelRAGE ?"
www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220460877&postcount=2017 - nin1000: "Sorry but again. Did you miss my post where I claimed to have killed EzekelRAGE?"
www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220462504&postcount=2021 - Bronx-Man: "I'm sorry, could you link me to the post where you made the claim? I'm kinda busy eating with friends right now."
www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220463237&postcount=2024 - WhereAreMahdragonz: "None of this really answers the questions / concerns people have about your weird vote reasoning, nor does it also explain your literal last minute vote on Verelios, only when his lynch was a sure thing. [...] Vote: AbsolutBro"
www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220463304&postcount=2025 - Bronx-Man: "Good shit, Nin. Good shit indeed."
www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220464340&postcount=2028 - AbsolutBro: "Firstly, if I was scum I would simply be shutting my mouth right now and coasting. I'd pop in, ask a question, maybe answer something. No way am I doing huge multiquotes, throwing in late explanations or basically doing anything that might get me noticed. [...] As for not adding anything productive, pot/kettle much?"
www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220465605&postcount=2030 - Xamtheking: It's one thing to bus a fellow scum It's another thing to hammer a scum brother/sister with like more than 24 hours left"
www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220469760&postcount=2032 - Haly: "WAMD and melon are "cleared" under the assumption that you're scum. If you turn out to be town, then they would no longer be clear. In fact, I would begin to suspect them."
www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220493197&postcount=2044 - nin1000: "fyi my kill was a strong kill. it was described as very powerful. it goes trough everything."
www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220494653&postcount=2054 - franconp: "Zeke's power make it seems that there should be second kill, but it looks that it was blocked. As for the second blocker Ouro was one. The power that he had allowed him to protect someone. Maybe he protected someone last night. It's weird that he didn't protected himself."
www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220509593&postcount=2073 - WAMD: "Splinter, AB, King kitty. Will give reads later"
www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220517297&postcount=2075 - Xamtheking: "I am in this game, yes, melon I'm just thinking about Cherry Bomb"
www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220519189&postcount=2078 - Xamtheking: "Currently activating my brain and mulling over her response/top town and scum post"
www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220531941&postcount=2086 - AbsolutBro: "Haly [m] - leaning scum. During D2 he was up in the air re: Vere/Ez/Ouro. In fact pushing for Ouro to be lynched first to prove his claim (post #1597); if Haly is scum he would know that Ouro would flip neither cop nor Widowmaker."
www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220531953&postcount=2087 - Sophia: "Just did a read over you, and I'm curious to see your reads regarding AB. He was for lynching Zeke in Day 1 But you voted against him, claiming it felt like it an easy lynch on an inactive player.
However in Day 2 you voted pretty much for Verelios and kept your vote there. Which would mean bussing your own teammate and potentially Zeke as well so..."
www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220539868&postcount=2095 - Haly: "I voted Ouro over Verelios because at the time I was convinced Ouro was neutral. I was ready to vote Verelios after Ouro's flip regardless, though there's no way to prove that. When I challenged him to prove his town-ness by sacrificing himself, and he agreed but didn't push it, I had to call him out on his bluff."
www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220541976&postcount=2102 - Haly: "His laser focus on Verelios coupled with Ezekel's counterclaim of WM. The last time I've seen a vendetta this blatant was, surprise, a lyncher. And at the time it worked."
www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220543689&postcount=2107 - Ty4on: "He seemed to focused IMO to be neutral or scum. I'm extrapolating from scum Ouro, but he always struck me as terrified of being caught. I thought neutral Ouro would play similarly and town read him for his play yesterday. People were posting theories left and right and none of them scared him."
www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220547749&postcount=2119 - kingkitty: "With only a day left, I'm putting my vote down for Haly. Compared to Splinter (who I also labeled as scum in my reads, but also conceded that it almost feels *too* obvious), Haly is comparatively more subtle and blendy, but still scummy in my mind. Therefore, I feel it's time for Haly to turn into gravy. vote: Haly"
www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220550740&postcount=2129 - Haly: "I don't even know if KK/Goddamn did anything this game. Time for a good old fashioned OMGUS. Vote: kingkitty"
www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220551073&postcount=2131 - Kingkitty: "you hear that? it's thunderdome time."
www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220551637&postcount=2133 - WhereAreMahDragonz: "it's just a gut read that hasn't gone away."
www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220553613&postcount=2138 - Xamtheking: "I am of the opinion that Cherry is scum
Her D2 post seems like she was trying to distance herself (I know she said it was just a quick run through, which is reasonable, but not mentioning Verelios, the hot topic, in any capacity seems suspect)"
www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220554265&postcount=2141 - Xamtheking: "I mean distancing herself from anything related to Verelios in an attempt by scum to make sure everyone didn't go down with the ship"
www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220569969&postcount=2167 - Bronx-Man "Looking back on the past few pages, Cherry would be an easy lynch. Easy lynches never lead to getting scum so that's that. I'd say Splinter tops my scum list right now, but I'm not committed to a vote for him right now. I need to read him better."
not yet finished.