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Post by Sorian on Oct 16, 2016 10:47:23 GMT -8
............ then why did Ouro lie He isn't a cop either if I'm being completely honest.
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Post by verelios on Oct 16, 2016 11:27:06 GMT -8
God dammit, I knew Ouro was full of bull <.<
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Post by Roytheone on Oct 16, 2016 13:16:39 GMT -8
............ then why did Ouro lie He isn't a cop either if I'm being completely honest. I wonder what happens when ezekel dies because of this and ourob is suddenly in the spotlights. They can't both be town, right? No way.
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Post by crimsonfist on Oct 16, 2016 13:40:17 GMT -8
Ouro would be lying town or neutral then I guess.
I'd have thought lying town would be most likely, but then why wouldn't he use his real role name? OTOH, if a neutral had a name that couldn't be claimed, I'd assume that they'd have fake names to use.
It felt a bit like he ran with the cop claim after *Splinter presented it as a possibility, and his playstyle probably doesn't make sense for a neutral unless he has some really weird role.
I'll go with lying town.
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Post by Sawneeks on Oct 16, 2016 15:46:28 GMT -8
............ then why did Ouro lie He isn't a cop either if I'm being completely honest. #BoldGambits
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Post by Sorian on Oct 16, 2016 17:52:38 GMT -8
I feel bad for scum, Ouro has them completely shook and I feel like most of it was serendipity.
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Post by Roytheone on Oct 16, 2016 21:19:30 GMT -8
I feel bad for scum, Ouro has them completely shook and I feel like most of it was serendipity. The more you say, the more I get the feeling this game will be pretty lopsided 
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Post by weemadarthur on Oct 16, 2016 22:25:33 GMT -8
Did verelios use the shield N1?
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Post by Sawneeks on Oct 16, 2016 23:19:34 GMT -8
I feel bad for scum, Ouro has them completely shook and I feel like most of it was serendipity. @scum Team  cute doggos for the Scum Team. Tell them not to give up hope, they still got this! \o/
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Post by crimsonfist on Oct 16, 2016 23:39:55 GMT -8
Do they know Ouro wasn't the cop? Did they role block him or something?
Or if Zeke is scum, that would be the giveaway.
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Post by Roytheone on Oct 17, 2016 5:13:41 GMT -8
I feel bad for scum, Ouro has them completely shook and I feel like most of it was serendipity. @scum Team  cute doggos for the Scum Team. Tell them not to give up hope, they still got this! \o/ We never got cute doggies in Pokemon  #jealous
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Post by Sorian on Oct 17, 2016 5:29:30 GMT -8
Did verelios use the shield N1? Yes, but it wasn't needed, they were all fine anyway.
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Post by Sorian on Oct 17, 2016 7:52:59 GMT -8
So inside baseball because watching this is pure frustration. Ouro has Ezekel completely shook which is understandable. Ouro is dead tonight no problem it looks like so that's fine (town vig is actually killing Ezekel too so that saga is going to get wrapped up) but Ezekel also wants to roleblock Ouro with one of their other powers. Due to complicated role interactions, if they roleblock Ouro then their free second kill tonight is going to fail. The original roleblock plan is much better and will lead both kills being successful (uh, kind of at least).
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Post by Roytheone on Oct 17, 2016 8:05:24 GMT -8
So inside baseball because watching this is pure frustration. Ouro has Ezekel completely shook which is understandable. Ouro is dead tonight no problem it looks like so that's fine (town vig is actually killing Ezekel too so that saga is going to get wrapped up) but Ezekel also wants to roleblock Ouro with one of their other powers. Due to complicated role interactions, if they roleblock Ouro then their free second kill tonight is going to fail. The original roleblock plan is much better and will lead both kills being successful (uh, kind of at least). So did Ourob just got EXTREMELY lucky and guessed a scum and a scum role right? Because that would be insane.
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Post by Sorian on Oct 17, 2016 8:14:02 GMT -8
So inside baseball because watching this is pure frustration. Ouro has Ezekel completely shook which is understandable. Ouro is dead tonight no problem it looks like so that's fine (town vig is actually killing Ezekel too so that saga is going to get wrapped up) but Ezekel also wants to roleblock Ouro with one of their other powers. Due to complicated role interactions, if they roleblock Ouro then their free second kill tonight is going to fail. The original roleblock plan is much better and will lead both kills being successful (uh, kind of at least). So did Ourob just got EXTREMELY lucky and guessed a scum and a scum role right? Because that would be insane. I'm still not 100% sure what possessed him to claim a different character than who he is other than maybe his own character really makes no sense to be a cop and he seemed to really be all in on lying about being cop. So yes, he just guessed scum right on Verelios and then happened to choose Widowmaker who just happened to be Ezekel who just happened to be one of the other scum. Ouro said he only kept pushing the angle because Ezekel was a scum read too, if someone townier had claimed Widow, he might have backed down, maybe? Idk
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Post by Roytheone on Oct 17, 2016 8:16:49 GMT -8
So did Ourob just got EXTREMELY lucky and guessed a scum and a scum role right? Because that would be insane. I'm still not 100% sure what possessed him to claim a different character than who he is other than maybe his own character really makes no sense to be a cop and he seemed to really be all in on lying about being cop. So yes, he just guessed scum right on Verelios and then happened to choose Widowmaker who just happened to be Ezekel who just happened to be one of the other scum. Ouro said he only kept pushing the angle because Ezekel was a scum read too, if someone townier had claimed Widow, he might have backed down, maybe? Idk So he just got really lucky. Not going to lie, not claiming your own character is actually a very bad play imo. Sure, this time it leads to a dead extra scum by sheer luck, but that doesn't make the play any better, even the worst plays with some luck can get good results.
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Post by Ourobolus on Oct 17, 2016 9:27:41 GMT -8
hi
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Post by Roytheone on Oct 17, 2016 9:29:27 GMT -8
You let him in just so that he can get mad at me for calling his gambit bad even though he lucked out hard, didn't you Sorian? 
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Post by Ourobolus on Oct 17, 2016 9:31:54 GMT -8
Roy, Sorian said you wanted to see my pre-typed post for today: Well that was a fun Day 2, right? RIGHT? Now, I know this is going to be difficult to believe, but I am not Widowmaker. I'm not even a cop. HOLY SHIT  Anyway, I know it was difficult to see from my perspective on D1, but I was absolutely positive Verelios was scum due to his nitpicking of my posts. Classic scum move. Since no one else was really agreeing with me, I performed an entirely selfless move and claimed to be the cop. I just ended up picking Widowmaker since I was having trouble thinking of an ability that would work as a "cop" ability, so I landed on her. Also I really enjoy annoying Splinter. I expected a counterclaim, and was prepared. I did not expect the counterclaim to come from one of my suspected scum, but in the end that kinda made it a little easier? Not sure if "easy" is the right adjective there. Anyway, after Verelios' flip, it makes sense why Zeke was really, really interested in ensuring that Verelios stayed alive for one more night, in case someone was going to take me up on my offer of shooting one of them. So, with that said, [highlight]VOTE: EzekelRAGE[/highlight] #yolo #sickd1reads #isaidwhatwhatinthebutt #pandabears
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Post by Sorian on Oct 17, 2016 9:31:57 GMT -8
You let him in just so that he can get mad at me for calling his gambit bad even though he lucked out hard, didn't you Sorian? Yes, he's not even dead. I just wanted to throw you both in a cage and watch the fight. He is dead. Someone on scum team is dead too but I haven't told them since they still get time to post before night phase ends
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Post by Roytheone on Oct 17, 2016 9:57:18 GMT -8
You let him in just so that he can get mad at me for calling his gambit bad even though he lucked out hard, didn't you Sorian? Yes, he's not even dead. I just wanted to throw you both in a cage and watch the fight. He is dead. Someone on scum team is dead too but I haven't told them since they still get time to post before night phase ends Missing one kill and having 2 scum dead on day 3 is a really bad situation for scum to be in. How are they powers wise? Still able to fight back or are their already nearing sitting duck status?
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Post by Sorian on Oct 17, 2016 10:01:45 GMT -8
Yes, he's not even dead. I just wanted to throw you both in a cage and watch the fight. He is dead. Someone on scum team is dead too but I haven't told them since they still get time to post before night phase ends Missing one kill and having 2 scum dead on day 3 is a really bad situation for scum to be in. How are they powers wise? Still able to fight back or are their already nearing sitting duck status? Their strong kills are gone. They still have a permanent roleblocker (something a little retuned but similar to what scum had in ace attorney) and then they have someone who town basically has to vote out, they aren't realistically going to be able to be night killed at this point. They actually get some salvation at the end of day 3 if they don't fuck up more and there are actually a few places they can hit at night for double kills so yes, from a perspective down in the trenches where they can't see the whole picture, things look bad, but they are still in this easily.
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Post by Roytheone on Oct 17, 2016 10:09:11 GMT -8
Missing one kill and having 2 scum dead on day 3 is a really bad situation for scum to be in. How are they powers wise? Still able to fight back or are their already nearing sitting duck status? Their strong kills are gone. They still have a permanent roleblocker (something a little retuned but similar to what scum had in ace attorney) and then they have someone who town basically has to vote out, they aren't realistically going to be able to be night killed at this point. They actually get some salvation at the end of day 3 if they don't fuck up more and there are actually a few places they can hit at night for double kills so yes, from a perspective down in the trenches where they can't see the whole picture, things look bad, but they are still in this easily. Good good. A walk over is always disappointing to spectate.
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Post by Ourobolus on Oct 17, 2016 10:12:30 GMT -8
I was gonna claim Winston today, too.
Damn you all for ruining my plans!
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Post by Sorian on Oct 17, 2016 10:20:34 GMT -8
Because Ouro was so mean to scum, I no longer want Mazre to get lynched. At least not today, maybe tomorrow if scum is feeling better. I kind of want them to gain some morale first.
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Post by Ourobolus on Oct 17, 2016 10:21:14 GMT -8
delicious delicious tears
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Post by Sorian on Oct 17, 2016 10:23:33 GMT -8
I'm rooting for scum, will start rigging night actions for them.
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Post by Ourobolus on Oct 17, 2016 10:25:48 GMT -8
I'm rooting for scum, will start rigging night actions for them. :( brb PM'ing the scum list to town
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Post by Roytheone on Oct 17, 2016 10:58:42 GMT -8
I am always rooting for the underdog, which right now is probably scum.
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Post by Ourobolus on Oct 17, 2016 11:00:35 GMT -8
Hi Zeke! :)
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