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Post by batsnacks on Aug 19, 2016 19:03:18 GMT -8
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Post by melonrabbit on Aug 19, 2016 19:04:57 GMT -8
This started at an awkward time for me. Also I'm going on vacations, back in a month. Also I'm on a train. Also I just rolled this at random: Vote: Melonrabbit
One of those statements is true. Dare I ask why?
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Post by giantpanda on Aug 19, 2016 20:08:54 GMT -8
Steve why do you want to waste a significant portion of our 24 hour day phase playing hangman and geography games Maybe Steve discovered that Carmen Sandeigo is working for the mafia. Seriously though I do find it a bit strange, but I'll give him a pass for now since it's his first game.
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Post by batsnacks on Aug 19, 2016 21:59:16 GMT -8
this phase is half over and 2(?) people have reads?
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Post by Lone_Prodigy on Aug 19, 2016 22:09:59 GMT -8
1. Steve [m] (NEW) - weird minigames, null read
2. Ourobolus [m] - seems productive for now
3. Gorlak [m] - hard to say
4. Batsnacks [m] - has it out for me, it seems
5. Timeaisis [m] - what do you have against peeking?
6. Fireblend [m] - null read
7. Swamped [f] - hasn't posted yet?
8. Giant Panda [m] - starts with a random vote
9. *Splinter [m] - hasn't posted yet?
10. Melonrabbit [f] - null read
11. Zippedpinhead [m] - hasn't posted yet?
12. Kawl_USC [m]
13. Lone_Prodigy [m]
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Post by Lone_Prodigy on Aug 19, 2016 23:01:16 GMT -8
Oh there was more to the text box.
Kawl - just talking about peeking. Again.
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Post by Gorlak on Aug 19, 2016 23:28:50 GMT -8
Ugh, this is even worse than the Arnold Live Mafia's Day One yesterday night. Steve is uttering sweet, sweet bullshit and trying to distract the shit out of this game. He convinced me to lynch him. Feelings tell me bats needs to be watched. Everyone else didn't do much...
I want to hear reasons for why Ouro, bats and Timeaisis think it's fine to vote LP. Especially Ouro who put some effort in his "reads" and doesn't even mention LP there. Is this already a pile on my first vote trying to establish a bandwaggon which the confirmed townie can be blamed for?
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Post by zippedpinhead on Aug 20, 2016 1:03:15 GMT -8
LP, I've posted already . I answered Stevie's question and voted for Giant panda (thought I'm still not sure if I did so correctly).
There's no real reasoning behind the panda vote, other than I wanted to say "get the panda"
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Post by Swamped on Aug 20, 2016 2:30:48 GMT -8
ok, let's move on to other players. People that need to check in: Swamped Fireblend People I want to lynch: Lone_Prodigy Kawl_USC Oh ok then! VITE
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Post by Swamped on Aug 20, 2016 2:32:45 GMT -8
Ugh epic fail from my phone...
VOTE: KAWL_USC
I'm all for peeking, seems like a good strategy.
CFD stands for Computational Fluid Dynamics
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Post by Steve on Aug 20, 2016 4:42:10 GMT -8
Oh hey test results are in (also I didn't want to waste the rest of the day phase without giving ample time for these readers come in).
First off CFD would be... The Chattanooga Fire Department, the very same fire department who watched as my house turned to embers and had the fall to tell me that there's nothing they can do. I'm 99% sure they're tied to the mafia who did it.
I wanted to see who refused to engage my questions out of fear of being tied too closely with those bastards. those of you without any reason to hide are more likely to be active participants and more willing to engage in risky questioning. Those of you who skirted by it... Well, what are you hiding?
Noted engages: Gorlak (confirmed town) Batsnacks Ouro (prodded) Zippedpinhead Swamped
Ignores: Melonrabbit Lone_prodigy Fireblend Timeaisis Giantpanda Kawl Splinter
I'm interested in the ignores.
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Post by Steve on Aug 20, 2016 4:45:06 GMT -8
Sorry for the distress it might've caused y'all, I just have no other way of understanding where any of y'all lie other than behavioral reads.
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Post by Splinter on Aug 20, 2016 5:06:36 GMT -8
Sorry I'm late
Steve is strange, but he started his "distraction" before anything useful was happening, and I've seen worse attempts to kick-start a game. I'm against lynching him for now, but that will change quickly if he doesn't make more sense in future.
Ouro is town or trying really hard to pretend to be.
Timeaisis criticized Steve's game but did nothing else himself except for saying he'd vote LP in a joke(?) post. I think he's scum coasting and encouraging the low-effort attitude the game seems to have so far
Bats also criticized Steve's game, but unlike Time he seems more concerned about the state of play so far. Probably town.
Lone Prodigy has been around, but not really saying anything. A few posts about peeking, and recently a post that poses as a read list but really is just an excuse to throw shade at everyone for not contributing. But bats already made that point right before him, so this just looks like he's trying to appear helpful. Lean scum.
Kawl also posted about peeking before going quiet. However since then I dont think he's posted at all? Annoying, but null for now.
Fireblend has voted melon, but neither justified it nor made any other serious comments so far. Null.
Melon started by voting me. I take this as an appeal to meta (she always suspects me) which could be town making a joke, or could be scum trying too hard to be consistent with past performances.
Noone else has posted anything I can draw conclusions from, null null null
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Post by Splinter on Aug 20, 2016 5:09:18 GMT -8
I think peeking is dumb, for the record. Why? In case I didn't mention it before, I'm in favour of peeking. Seems like a no-brainer to me.
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Post by zippedpinhead on Aug 20, 2016 5:15:51 GMT -8
I'm in favor of peeking, because we should use the gifts given to us
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Post by Ourobolus on Aug 20, 2016 5:28:13 GMT -8
mornin'
*insert pithy scum hunting comment here*
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Post by Splinter on Aug 20, 2016 5:29:17 GMT -8
mornin' *insert pithy scum hunting comment here* Yep, definitely my top town. Just slightly ahead of gorlak
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Post by Steve on Aug 20, 2016 5:53:59 GMT -8
Just a heads up I'll be busy for the next couple hours. Right now my vote is for melon but I don't know how to vote on mobile.
Vote: melonrabbit
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Post by Splinter on Aug 20, 2016 6:05:33 GMT -8
Just a heads up I'll be busy for the next couple hours. Right now my vote is for melon but I don't know how to vote on mobile. Vote: melonrabbit Why melon?
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Post by giantpanda on Aug 20, 2016 6:05:44 GMT -8
I don't even think day 1 reads are really of much use. Like I don't blame LP for basically posting a "reads list" that reads null for everyone, because that's where I'm at. To me reads right now are mostly people focusing in on really small things in an attempt to appear like they're being helpful for town. The lynch will just come down to whomever did the biggest small thing and bandwagoners that want to fit in with the accepted lynch. Tis the nature of day 1 in every game I've played, baring a role claim.
I will say that ideally we have lynch wagons on two players by the end of the phase, so that people have a clear choice between the two. We'll gain a lot more info that way than a runaway wagon or wide spread of votes.
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Post by Ourobolus on Aug 20, 2016 6:06:45 GMT -8
Ugh, this is even worse than the Arnold Live Mafia's Day One yesterday night. Steve is uttering sweet, sweet bullshit and trying to distract the shit out of this game. He convinced me to lynch him. Feelings tell me bats needs to be watched. Everyone else didn't do much... I want to hear reasons for why Ouro, bats and Timeaisis think it's fine to vote LP. Especially Ouro who put some effort in his "reads" and doesn't even mention LP there. Is this already a pile on my first vote trying to establish a bandwaggon which the confirmed townie can be blamed for? the only effort I put forth was time LP and Kawl are just my gut reads on this shitshow of a D1
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Post by melonrabbit on Aug 20, 2016 7:00:05 GMT -8
Steve is already trying to play mind games and lead the discussion. I like his posting style but immediately don't trust him. Leaning towards scum.
Ourobolus and Gorlak are so far both town to me. Gorlak is confirmed.
Batsnacks [m] - I'm a bit null here.
Timeaisis [m] - strange out of the gate Time would be anti-peeking when he saw first hand how people get about anti-peekers. Maybe has something to hide?
Fireblend [m] - voted for me but hasn't backed it up. Possibly just an opening post bit of fun. If not I would like to know how you developed such a read.
Splinter [m] - He seems like his normal self thus far...
LP [m] - immediately instance for peeking can be read two ways. One as scum wanting to provide cover for themselves and teammates or as a man denied his last opportunity to make a difference (read: meta).
I'm null on these 4:
Swamped [f] Giant Panda [m] Zippedpinhead [m] Kawl_USC [m]
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Post by melonrabbit on Aug 20, 2016 7:01:21 GMT -8
unvote
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Post by Ourobolus on Aug 20, 2016 7:26:57 GMT -8
can you guys stop calling me town
that's municipalist
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Post by timeaisis on Aug 20, 2016 7:28:45 GMT -8
Well, I don't see what peeking gets us. I'll do it, but I don't see the advantages.
For one, we don't know if we even have a cop. Two, we don't know if mafia will even care about peeking. Peeking gives us a chance of finding out more information upon cop death, and probably gives mafia more information in the long run.
Let's say a townie peeks scum, and reports that scum town (as they would), we're assuming that scum will not kill them as they are not the cop for sure. However, this is a flawed assumption. It assumes there is a cop and it also assumes that killing the cop (who may or may not exist) is scum's #1 priority. They could very well kill this townie because he's a danger or for wifom, or just kill someone else entirely while now fileing that that townie is likely not a cop.
I suppose my point is peeking seems to give us an illusion of information because we have to work under assumptions. Same with mafia, but it's easier for them to use it. We only really get something out of peeking if and when the cop dies.
So that's why I think it's dumb. I'll do it, but that's my opinion of it.
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Post by Splinter on Aug 20, 2016 7:32:05 GMT -8
Well, I don't see what peeking gets us. I'll do it, but I don't see the advantages. For one, we don't know if we even have a cop. Two, we don't know if mafia will even care about peeking. Peeking gives us a chance of finding out more information upon cop death, and probably gives mafia more information in the long run. Let's say a townie peeks scum, and reports that scum town (as they would), we're assuming that scum will not kill them as they are not the cop for sure. However, this is a flawed assumption. It assumes there is a cop and it also assumes that killing the cop (who may or may not exist) is scum's #1 priority. They could very well kill this townie because he's a danger or for wifom, or just kill someone else entirely while now fileing that that townie is likely not a cop. I suppose my point is peeking seems to give us an illusion of information because we have to work under assumptions. Same with mafia, but it's easier for them to use it. We only really get something out of peeking if and when the cop dies. So that's why I think it's dumb. I'll do it, but that's my opinion of it. If there's no cop then peeking hasn't done any harm, other than the effort to read a 1 line peek from each player each day. And Mafia wouldn't know whether there's a cop or not, so why wouldn't they be hunting for one?
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Post by timeaisis on Aug 20, 2016 7:55:13 GMT -8
Well, I don't see what peeking gets us. I'll do it, but I don't see the advantages. For one, we don't know if we even have a cop. Two, we don't know if mafia will even care about peeking. Peeking gives us a chance of finding out more information upon cop death, and probably gives mafia more information in the long run. Let's say a townie peeks scum, and reports that scum town (as they would), we're assuming that scum will not kill them as they are not the cop for sure. However, this is a flawed assumption. It assumes there is a cop and it also assumes that killing the cop (who may or may not exist) is scum's #1 priority. They could very well kill this townie because he's a danger or for wifom, or just kill someone else entirely while now fileing that that townie is likely not a cop. I suppose my point is peeking seems to give us an illusion of information because we have to work under assumptions. Same with mafia, but it's easier for them to use it. We only really get something out of peeking if and when the cop dies. So that's why I think it's dumb. I'll do it, but that's my opinion of it. If there's no cop then peeking hasn't done any harm, other than the effort to read a 1 line peek from each player each day. And Mafia wouldn't know whether there's a cop or not, so why wouldn't they be hunting for one? See this is where we disagree. I think if mafia didn't know whether or not there was a cop, they'd just ignore peeking as hunt for town to kill like usual. If someone smelled like a PR, they'd kill that person. If someone caused a stir, they'd kill them. Etc., etc. I think we're assuming peeking's effect on scum too much. Then it just becomes a game of town peeking, while scum goes as usual with possibly some extra info from town flying around. But it seems like I'm outnumbered, so I'll drop it. I'm fine doing it if that's what everyone wants to do. I just wanted to bring up my opinion of it overall, as an overall strategy. On another note, I think talking about metagame stuff such as peeking is a good "neutral" topic for scum to latch onto without talking about the game at hand, so let's keep that in mind. I'd like to bring up Steve for a second, because his "game" strategy has confused me. Initially, I thought it was a joke kind of deal, but now I realize it's a legit "strategy" (I guess you could call it that). Although the big reveal for what it is really gives absolutely nothing to town (and isn't a real gotcha), as many ignored him simply because they thought it was useless blather, while those that responded (like ouro) look like they were joking back. So I'm not sure what we've gotten by Steve's game, if anything. He called those who ignored his queries people skirting his risky questioning, or something. Looks to me like he's trying to just make conversation, but it's a confusing way to go about it.
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Post by Kawl on Aug 20, 2016 8:03:42 GMT -8
Day phases are 48 not 24 here correct?
And sorry I was in Arnold as this started which went straight into drinking and going out with friends which lead straight to a hangover which is leading straight into picking up a present for a baby shower.
Once I get over this hump I'll get up in this shit.
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Post by Steve on Aug 20, 2016 8:03:53 GMT -8
Just a heads up I'll be busy for the next couple hours. Right now my vote is for melon but I don't know how to vote on mobile. Vote: melonrabbit Why melon? Melon has been the most active of the people who didn't comment on my questions at all. She avoided it entirely. Also what's with her recent post? She likes my style but still thinks I'm scum? Just reads as noncommittal to me.
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Post by batsnacks on Aug 20, 2016 8:10:36 GMT -8
I'd be curious if Steve has played mafia before but regardless that reveal post is pretty spew-y. "I just have no other way of understanding where any of y'all lie other than behavioral reads" seems genuine for someone who hasn't played this setup, or with the players in this game, or with this community. I would bet he's vt.
giantpanda, kawl, and LP are all still good lynches, in that order. Think about the safest, most alignment neutral posts you could possibly make in this game and then read these quotes in order:
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