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Post by Fireblend on Aug 26, 2016 8:23:54 GMT -8
I don't know if melon voting for me is cornered scum going out with a bang, or cornered town going out of a bang. I thought she was confused about the possibility that you might not be really cleared. Any comments on my posts or Steve or anything at all? Gorlak's been cleared all game and he's been consistently contributing to the game. You kind of dropped out as soon as you were cleared, only to come back to tie the vote yesterday.
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Post by Gorlak on Aug 26, 2016 8:28:29 GMT -8
Melon, talking about scumhunting and voting LP doesn't add up. All of the setup talk was done the past days, we are in the scenario: TTTTTM and one unknown PR. Only LP claimed, if you are a PR, just claim and we can end this game. Otherwise stop wasting time and try to actually scumhunt, because I don't see you doing it.
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Post by Splinter on Aug 26, 2016 8:30:37 GMT -8
Splinter you have to acknowledge that you feel pretty safe with how the reads about you were yesterday? Just admit that you wouldn't have played any different if you were scum/town this game. Oh I'd never deny that, Gorlak. Playing the same regardless of alignment is pretty much exactly what people should aim for. And I only feel "safe" insofar as it would be a bad idea to lynch me. We're still only slightly better than 50/50 to actually win, I think.
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Post by Gorlak on Aug 26, 2016 8:31:25 GMT -8
I'm getting the feeling we are losing the game at the moment. Expecting a mislynch... probably will lynch Fireblend tomorrow in honour of roy.
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Post by Lone_Prodigy on Aug 26, 2016 8:39:28 GMT -8
As I said yesterday, my late-game reads are usually garbage, and in a small fast game like this, I can't rely on voting history and general behaviour to scumhunt. After Kawl went down, scum was playing by him/herself so it's not hard to play like town.
Of our four candidates it's probably Melon = Steve > Fireblend = Splinter. Yes this contradicts what I did yesterday by voting for Fireblend, but I guess I was trying to see what kind of reaction I'd get.
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Post by Splinter on Aug 26, 2016 9:11:41 GMT -8
Well I don't really have anything more to say today.
VOTE: melonrabbit
I'm probably voting Steve next but I'm not totally decided, hopefully we get some more discussion tomorrow.
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Post by Fireblend on Aug 26, 2016 9:18:18 GMT -8
I'm getting the feeling we are losing the game at the moment. Expecting a mislynch... probably will lynch Fireblend tomorrow in honour of roy. Go ahead, I'd be happy to lose the game and have someone else to blame for giving someone who barely posted in the last few days the win. As I said yesterday, my late-game reads are usually garbage, and in a small fast game like this, I can't rely on voting history and general behaviour to scumhunt. After Kawl went down, scum was playing by him/herself so it's not hard to play like town. Of our four candidates it's probably Melon = Steve > Fireblend = Splinter. Yes this contradicts what I did yesterday by voting for Fireblend, but I guess I was trying to see what kind of reaction I'd get. You do you, I'm trusting that Gorlak and the others didn't mess up when calculating setup possibilities, so I guess just continue being a neutral-value player?
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Post by Lone_Prodigy on Aug 26, 2016 9:23:36 GMT -8
Vote count? I may flip another coin today.
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Post by melonrabbit on Aug 26, 2016 9:25:36 GMT -8
Well I don't really have anything more to say today. VOTE: melonrabbit I'm probably voting Steve next but I'm not totally decided, hopefully we get some more discussion tomorrow. Why would you have to vote for Steve if I'm the last scum?
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Post by Fireblend on Aug 26, 2016 9:29:42 GMT -8
Vote count? I may flip another coin today. Between who and who?
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Post by melonrabbit on Aug 26, 2016 9:36:34 GMT -8
I don't know if melon voting for me is cornered scum going out with a bang, or cornered town going out of a bang. I thought she was confused about the possibility that you might not be really cleared. Any comments on my posts or Steve or anything at all? Gorlak's been cleared all game and he's been consistently contributing to the game. You kind of dropped out as soon as you were cleared, only to come back to tie the vote yesterday. Yeah. I misunderstood Hyper answer to my question and run with it but really the way LP been acting is kinda scummy. Flipping another coin until of making a decision? Gorlak, I have posted my thoughts on who else it could be before. I think Steve is the most likely but there is a out chance it is Splinter. Honestly, I get a agressive town is your style but you are really making this game a bit hostile.
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Post by melonrabbit on Aug 26, 2016 9:40:51 GMT -8
Fire, who honestly do you think the last scum is?
You seem to be the only one here making much sense.
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Post by Lone_Prodigy on Aug 26, 2016 9:48:26 GMT -8
Vote count? I may flip another coin today. Between who and who? Steve and melon.
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Post by Fireblend on Aug 26, 2016 9:51:34 GMT -8
Fire, who honestly do you think the last scum is? You seem to be the only one here making much sense. It is pretty much a toss up between you and Steve. If it's anyone else, like Splinter playing a brilliant scum game then I will gladly concede the game to them. From my perspective, you and Steve are equally suspicious. Both were left team-less after day 1 and I believe the night kills could be argued to favor either you or Steve without much to tell us who's been doing them. Same goes for your playing styles right now. I'm relatively unconcerned because I'm gambling on the fact that between you and Steve there's scum, and if there isn't then Splinter probably deserves the win. Talking honestly though, if I had an override or if my vote decided who to lynch this round, I'd go with Steve but not because I find him more suspicious than you but because you're actually actively looking for other possibilities and asking questions and doing stuff and regardless of your alignment that's just fun, good play. Steve has been no fun to play with for a while.
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Post by Fireblend on Aug 26, 2016 9:53:23 GMT -8
Both would have been left team-less* Sentence makes no sense otherwise :P
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Post by Gorlak on Aug 26, 2016 10:01:49 GMT -8
Yes, I'm aggressive. It's mostly how I play and on top I'm frustrated. I have no clue who could be the last scum. This turned into Heist 2.0 after Timeaisis was lynched. I apologize for anything that made you feel uneasy after the game is done. Right now my only way of finding something out is to question people - make you feel uneasy, cornered, provoke a mistake... If something was out of line I'd appreciate to hear from Hyper and will react accordingly. Unless this happens it would be great if we could focus on our task here: winning the game.
You talk about wanting to scumhunt yet refuse to do so. What have you done today besides questioning LP? And that was unnecessary. The only thing I'm pretty confident about is the setup we are in and that (barring any lying town members) LP is town. If that is not the case, show me passage in the wiki article and convince me he isn't.
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Post by Lone_Prodigy on Aug 26, 2016 10:12:50 GMT -8
melon: Steve or Splinter Fireblend: melon or Steve Steve: Fireblend Splinter: melon
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Post by Splinter on Aug 26, 2016 10:23:12 GMT -8
Well I don't really have anything more to say today. VOTE: melonrabbit I'm probably voting Steve next but I'm not totally decided, hopefully we get some more discussion tomorrow. Why would you have to vote for Steve if I'm the last scum? I wouldn't
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Post by Gorlak on Aug 26, 2016 10:27:17 GMT -8
Wait, when did melon change to Splinter?
"Fire > Salva > Steve > Splinter"
This was her list yesterday. After being called out she called it a gambit to fish for reactions, actually she "threw Fire under the bus". Afterwards she said it has to be Steve or Salva.
So... Is LP still a possibility? What is your current stance on the remaining three?
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Post by melonrabbit on Aug 26, 2016 10:32:06 GMT -8
Yes, I'm aggressive. It's mostly how I play and on top I'm frustrated. I have no clue who could be the last scum. This turned into Heist 2.0 after Timeaisis was lynched. I apologize for anything that made you feel uneasy after the game is done. Right now my only way of finding something out is to question people - make you feel uneasy, cornered, provoke a mistake... If something was out of line I'd appreciate to hear from Hyper and will react accordingly. Unless this happens it would be great if we could focus on our task here: winning the game. You talk about wanting to scumhunt yet refuse to do so. What have you done today besides questioning LP? And that was unnecessary. The only thing I'm pretty confident about is the setup we are in and that (barring any lying town members) LP is town. If that is not the case, show me passage in the wiki article and convince me he isn't. Fair enough. I'm sorry for getting upset. I already explained I asked a question and based on hyper's answer made the wrong assumption. I was not as confident about the game setup as you, mainly because as I've said I don't understand it well. Who would you like to hear my opinion/reads about? I'm at work now but I'll do my best to respond promptly.
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Post by melonrabbit on Aug 26, 2016 10:33:36 GMT -8
Which 3?
Steve, Fire, Splinter or Steve, Splinter, LP?
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Post by Gorlak on Aug 26, 2016 10:37:23 GMT -8
Just give me your stance on all 4. Do you rule out LP now? Who would you vote today/tomorrow if you had the chance?
Actually melon, you even went so far to quote Fire back then and search for an explanation why you changed your opinion about him before you took it all back. You've been overreacting to votes yesterday, you looked like you threw in the towel because everyone will vote you.
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Post by Gorlak on Aug 26, 2016 10:46:42 GMT -8
unvote
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Post by Gorlak on Aug 26, 2016 10:51:27 GMT -8
Melon or Steve.
If we mislynch, can we shorten the game and start the next day immediatly if everyone is around? There isn't much left to discuss is there?
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Post by Fireblend on Aug 26, 2016 10:51:28 GMT -8
Melon, at the beginning of today you questioned L_P about flipping a coin and tying the vote, but you were there too, weren't you? 2 minutes separated your post announcing you'd stick with your vote on Steve and L_P tying the game. Why did you not vote for me, who you had as your top suspect then? Or had I suddenly become trustworthy between your ordered scum list and the end of the day?
Actually, why stick with the Steve vote yesterday and not follow through today in any way? You've barely talked about Steve, choosing to poke Splinter and L_P instead. What gives?
Vote: Melonrabbit
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Post by melonrabbit on Aug 26, 2016 10:58:32 GMT -8
I disagree about the overreacting part --just aware of my situation. I'm not sure which post you mean exactly in response to Fire, so I can't directly comment on that.
Steve was active in the beginning and has been coasting ever since. He claims that he didn't understand peeking and was even using it to fish for a role claim out of me was enough to make me think start to think him as scum. He doesn't/hasn't really explained his reads in detail or really participated in the discussion.
Fire has been fairly consistent throughout the whole game. Very responsive and open to exploring new possibilities and seems to looking out got the town's best interests. Definitely in the latter half of the game nothing has immediately jumped out at me as anything alarming. My opinion seemingly changed on Fire because of an ill-conceived gambit which I backed out of, as previously explained "bus" comentioned and all.
Splinter has played a solid game scum or not. Some of his comments yesterday and today make it seem like he knows he's mislynching me and doesn't care. He is the dark horse scenario if you will.
I've already explained my feelings on LP, all other things considered if he was *not* confirmed he would definitely have my vote today. He is pretty much not playing and just flipping coins. His behavior hasn't suggested town to me at all.
That said, I'll be voting for Steve today.
Anything else?
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Post by melonrabbit on Aug 26, 2016 11:01:09 GMT -8
@fire
Really? I stopped talking about Steve because you all told me to look at different options and talk about other people.
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Post by Fireblend on Aug 26, 2016 11:14:25 GMT -8
@fire Really? I stopped talking about Steve because you all told me to look at different options and talk about other people. What about my other questions? What stopped you from breaking the tie yesterday?
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Post by melonrabbit on Aug 26, 2016 11:21:33 GMT -8
I was driving.
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Post by melonrabbit on Aug 26, 2016 11:26:44 GMT -8
Also, I already explained my read of you above to Gorlak, so, no, I wouldn't have voted for you.
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