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Post by Hyperactivity on Sept 3, 2016 22:05:26 GMT -8
So is splinter's no town wins record going to stay alive for another game?
Cause it sounds like it
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Post by Splinter on Sept 4, 2016 2:22:28 GMT -8
The way this game is going I almost want to root for Sawneeks. She has wayyy more patience than me.
And again Topo says Dusk was lynched for his mason claim (he wasn't) and that the masons should have cleared him (they shouldn't).
Sawneeks v town is way more interesting than scum v town right now. Go Sawneeks!
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Post by Splinter on Sept 4, 2016 3:33:22 GMT -8
This spoiler contains alignments of Kark & Topo: ...and Kark's recent post about the Kalor voters was lynch-worthy imo. Taking votes out of context like that is lazy at best, but intentionally misleading at worst. It's Scum's job to mislead town, if you catch someone intentionally misleading the conversation, you should be able to lynch them, right?
But Kark is town.
Same thing with Topo. From his comments on the Dusk lynch he either wasn't paying attention at the time or, again, he's intentionally misleading/misrepresenting past events.
Topo is town.
How can you scumhunt when town plays this scummy? Now I feel like I'm picking on Kark/Topo, and in fairness that's only because they've been contributing enough for me to do so, here's some comment on the other players. No actual spoilers in here but obviously I know alignments so that might colour things: Stan - pops up once or twice a day to say "we should look at x for not posting, although obviously I've not been posting either hur hur hur". Looks like coasting scum.
Nin - mostly been following the consensus, although he actually had a couple of reasonable points buried in his posts. I get the feeling nin is afraid to go too hard on anyone, which is a shame if it's impacting his game. Still, most of the time he's voting with the majority whether he agrees or not, that's obviously scummy.
Christina Mackenzie - posts about as often as Stan but at least covers more topics. Definitely seems to be (intentionally?) playing under the radar though.
CornBro - ok but I've seen much better from him. Would accuse him of being cautious and therefore scum.
SalvaPot - should have been lynched D1. imo town lost when they lynched Blarg, terrible decision and I was pushing my luck when I went for it. Salva though has been playing ok, I guess, bit low-key now that the heat is off him.
OceanicAir - I honestly cant remember off the top of my head but I'm sure he's been doing something scummy this game, I think it was agreeing with a lot of poor reasoning from other players? Scum trying to encourage misguided townies? OA's game hasn't been awful, I just wouldn't particularly townread him.
StarSketch - doing fine? Claim was maybe unnecessary knowing her role, but reasonable considering town's lack of info at the moment. Sketch is one of my top town reads? What?
Kyanrute - reasonable, although not standing out much. Only thing I could accuse him of is being too cautious maybe. Most of these descriptions would be reasonable for scum, but coubter-productive for town (and obviously most of them are town). So I'll repeat my question: how can you scumhunt when town plays this scummy? One last player to mention: Sawneeks - calling out inconsistencies, calling out bad or misleading arguments, responding to all questions or accusations even if she has to repeat herself. When scum flipped, Sawneeks was the only one to go back and look for connections to other players. Ok she walked into a trap there but you have to try, that's your absolute best chance to find more scum, and it's shameful that noone else made an effort here (and in fact she's now being critizised for it indirectly via the Kalor lynch). She has not blindly trusted Kyan or Dusk, and she hasn't tunneled anyone despite calling out so much nonsense. She is town as fuck and hunting for scum in every post. Whether town or scum win this, Sawneeks needs to be MVP.
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Post by Splinter on Sept 4, 2016 3:36:26 GMT -8
#TeamSawneeks
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Post by Sophia on Sept 4, 2016 6:20:36 GMT -8
Sawneeks is definitely one of my favorite players this game, that's for sure.
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Post by melonrabbit on Sept 4, 2016 8:02:21 GMT -8
Hi everyone.
This is the first time I was NK'd. I'm weirdly excited about it.
I have no idea who is scum. This game had got me all turned around.
El Topo is my best suspect tho.
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Post by melonrabbit on Sept 4, 2016 8:13:36 GMT -8
Weird how hostile everyone is getting with the claimed cops.
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Post by Sophia on Sept 4, 2016 10:03:09 GMT -8
FOUR FOUR VOTES ON EL TOPO UWAH HAH HAH HAH THREE THREE VOTES ON STARSKETCH UWAH HAH HAH HAH
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Post by crimsonfist on Sept 4, 2016 11:11:43 GMT -8
Why are they voting the cop
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Post by crimsonfist on Sept 4, 2016 11:15:59 GMT -8
I don't get the impression that anyone even thinks Star is scum.
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Post by Splinter on Sept 4, 2016 11:23:10 GMT -8
I have to keep reminding myself I'm scum, but this is frustrating to even watch
#FreeSawneeks
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Post by Lone_Prodigy on Sept 4, 2016 12:48:22 GMT -8
Kark, my goodness.
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Post by Splinter on Sept 4, 2016 12:52:21 GMT -8
If anything, Sketch vouching for Sawn is by far her best defense, given Sawn's irrational and nonsensical behavior.
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Post by Sophia on Sept 4, 2016 13:01:00 GMT -8
Well then...
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Post by eltopodelgaf on Sept 4, 2016 13:11:23 GMT -8
Jesus Christ, someone tell me nin is scum.
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Post by eltopodelgaf on Sept 4, 2016 13:13:28 GMT -8
I mean, it's either Sawn or nin. The former has been utterly nonsensical, the latter has been actively absent.
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Post by Lone_Prodigy on Sept 4, 2016 13:13:58 GMT -8
You know, when town has voted out all town and one neutral, the votes are always going to look bad.
Unless you're me, who only ever voted for Splinter.
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Post by eltopodelgaf on Sept 4, 2016 13:14:41 GMT -8
The way this game is going I almost want to root for Sawneeks. She has wayyy more patience than me. And again Topo says Dusk was lynched for his mason claim (he wasn't) and that the masons should have cleared him (they shouldn't). Sawneeks v town is way more interesting than scum v town right now. Go Sawneeks! Nonsense. Dusk would have gained a lot of trust if the Masons had come forward and would arguably not have ended up in the situation he did. The Masons have no way to verify the alignment of the other player, their power is arguably not nearly as important as some have claimed in the game.
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Post by eltopodelgaf on Sept 4, 2016 13:20:31 GMT -8
If anything, Sketch vouching for Sawn is by far her best defense, given Sawn's irrational and nonsensical behavior. Nah. Sawneeks has a horrid voting record, weird end-of-day behavior, barely explained herself in-detail, switched stances and made some utterly nonsensical arguments. Don't give me that pot calling the kettle black bullshit. I have no idea how anyone could look at the voting record and posts and go "Yup, better trust her instead". Edit: In all fairness, most of that started (iirc) at the end of D3, so it could have been mostly due to the argument.
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Post by Splinter on Sept 4, 2016 13:21:12 GMT -8
The way this game is going I almost want to root for Sawneeks. She has wayyy more patience than me. And again Topo says Dusk was lynched for his mason claim (he wasn't) and that the masons should have cleared him (they shouldn't). Sawneeks v town is way more interesting than scum v town right now. Go Sawneeks! Nonsense. Dusk would have gained a lot of trust if the Masons had come forward and would arguably not have ended up in the situation he did. The Masons have no way to verify the alignment of the other player, their power is arguably not nearly as important as some have claimed in the game. Their power isnt important, but why should they trust Dusk at all?
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Post by eltopodelgaf on Sept 4, 2016 13:23:32 GMT -8
Nonsense. Dusk would have gained a lot of trust if the Masons had come forward and would arguably not have ended up in the situation he did. The Masons have no way to verify the alignment of the other player, their power is arguably not nearly as important as some have claimed in the game. Their power isnt important, but why should they trust Dusk at all? They should not trust Dusk, but letting a player get lynched, who was highly incriminated because of others distrusting his claim (see e.g. my own in-game post on Dusk's explanation, the lack of proof/how it contradicted what Sophia said about flavor), is completely anti-town. It makes no sense for town to let a player get lynched due to that, unless there was substantial other evidence against that player (and thus it was reasonably in town's best interest to not help that player).
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Post by Splinter on Sept 4, 2016 13:39:26 GMT -8
Their power isnt important, but why should they trust Dusk at all? They should not trust Dusk, but letting a player get lynched, who was highly incriminated because of others distrusting his claim (see e.g. my own in-game post on Dusk's explanation, the lack of proof/how it contradicted what Sophia said about flavor), is completely anti-town. It makes no sense for town to let a player get lynched due to that, unless there was substantial other evidence against that player (and thus it was reasonably in town's best interest to not help that player). That's not why Dusk was lynched though. Many people - including Sawneeks and I think Kyan - were suspicious of Dusk before his claim, he was almost lynched on Day 1 even. I think you were the only one who became suspicious just because of his claim (which I also disagree with but that's whatever).
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Post by eltopodelgaf on Sept 4, 2016 13:41:40 GMT -8
Phew. Calmed down a bit. Shame how things played out. Hopefully town manages to get scum the next day. Was too harsh earlier. Heat of the moment, you know? They should not trust Dusk, but letting a player get lynched, who was highly incriminated because of others distrusting his claim (see e.g. my own in-game post on Dusk's explanation, the lack of proof/how it contradicted what Sophia said about flavor), is completely anti-town. It makes no sense for town to let a player get lynched due to that, unless there was substantial other evidence against that player (and thus it was reasonably in town's best interest to not help that player). That's not why Dusk was lynched though. Many people - including Sawneeks and I think Kyan - were suspicious of Dusk before his claim, he was almost lynched on Day 1 even. I think you were the only one who became suspicious just because of his claim (which I also disagree with but that's whatever). His claim (iirc) contradicted what Sophia had said about the flavor (#281) and was not backed by anyone. I found that extremely suspicious.
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Post by melonrabbit on Sept 4, 2016 15:05:14 GMT -8
Well there goes my 1# suspect lol
Hey El Topo!
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Post by eltopodelgaf on Sept 5, 2016 0:55:15 GMT -8
Hey, melon. Shame you weren't scum, would've at least made for a better gambit. Boy am I glad in hindsight I didn't go through with claiming to be cop to get you lynched. If Magnum hadn't been the hot topic, who knows?
Edit: Also can we talk about how great ynnek's shot was? Because damn.
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Post by ynnek7 on Sept 5, 2016 1:39:40 GMT -8
Hey, melon. Shame you weren't scum, would've at least made for a better gambit. Boy am I glad in hindsight I didn't go through with claiming to be cop to get you lynched. If Magnum hadn't been the hot topic, who knows? Edit: Also can we talk about how great ynnek's shot was? Because damn. I haven't spoken up much in here, but I've been following along with the game. As cool as it would be, I'm really hoping I don't get the only scum kill in the entire game......
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Post by melonrabbit on Sept 5, 2016 8:27:49 GMT -8
Hey, melon. Shame you weren't scum, would've at least made for a better gambit. Boy am I glad in hindsight I didn't go through with claiming to be cop to get you lynched. If Magnum hadn't been the hot topic, who knows? Edit: Also can we talk about how great ynnek's shot was? Because damn. D1 I was that suspicious to you? I have no idea what I did lol Honestly if you had I would've respected the hell out of it for at least sticking to your guns, as wrong as they might be.
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Post by melonrabbit on Sept 5, 2016 8:28:48 GMT -8
Hey, melon. Shame you weren't scum, would've at least made for a better gambit. Boy am I glad in hindsight I didn't go through with claiming to be cop to get you lynched. If Magnum hadn't been the hot topic, who knows? Edit: Also can we talk about how great ynnek's shot was? Because damn. I haven't spoken up much in here, but I've been following along with the game. As cool as it would be, I'm really hoping I don't get the only scum kill in the entire game...... I'm starting to get that feeling...
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Post by Sophia on Sept 5, 2016 8:32:15 GMT -8
Assuming nothing changes in the next two hours, Star's dead. Scum are shooting her.
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Post by Splinter on Sept 5, 2016 10:52:51 GMT -8
Assuming nothing changes in the next two hours, Star's dead. Scum are shooting her. Predictable. Almost as predictable as town deciding that this means Kyan is scum Scum team spoiler: Which happens to be true in this case, which will unfortunately reinforce a poor line of reasoning. Star would have died tonight no matter who she was targetting.
Props to her for picking scum though
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