That makes sense, Moon Presence being this games detective. In that case, it would be best to get them killed early on, or lynched. Though, if we're found having investigated them and they die right after, that seems suspicious.
Nah, because it only matters if people see you kill them directly.
and that only happens if someone with the right power is watching you, or him, at the right time.
Post by weemadarthur on Jun 9, 2016 18:20:26 GMT -8
A quick reminder, especially verelios. I hope I don't start to sound patronizing, tell me if I do.
Anything written in this thread is something we don't know when it comes to gameplay. We don't know the title of the scum chat thread. We don't know the faction group of scum. We don't know things given to us by mod, like the safe names - we don't support our team members by saying we know that's a character in the game. If a random player claimed one of our safe names, we might not even argue until we discuss it. It's easy to slip up.
In my first game, I decided I would post a song lyric (related to the Disney theme of the game) in every post during day one. The reason was mostly because I thought it was funny, but it turned out to have a side benefit. I couldn't post very fast at all. Having to choose and integrate a lyric made me think harder about what I was saying. If you feel like you might start to panic under pressure, you could make up something like that as a way to help with self control.
As a noob to Mafia, ver, people will expect you to be panicky if challenged, and it's ok to look panicked. You can also get away with lower quality posts for probably two day phases, and then people will expect a step up in quality. I liked your interactions with haly where you two were discussing semantics, and what exactly you meant by various words. It's actually good to disagree a little.
Post by weemadarthur on Jun 10, 2016 10:12:42 GMT -8
4th lost partner option: seath Came out voting on one of us for no reason. Spelled arianna wrong for the context. Is rejoicing about being teamless...but maybe that's temporary. Anyway as scum he says the opposite of what he thinks.
Post by weemadarthur on Jun 11, 2016 12:20:02 GMT -8
I mean, if we think someone may be our lost partner, we absolutely don't want them to be lynched. We want to recruit them in the night.
So I've backed off of camjo being it, but there's still some doubt.
I want palmer and kristoffer to die, personally. And squidy. But I don't think I could get a bandwagon going on squidy, the other two seem to have enough suspicion to be lynchable.
We should NOT all jump on the same vote. We need to be very careful what pattern we leave. So let's not change our votes without discussion. We'll regroup in the last hour and plan a last minute strategy.
Regarding fake claims, I'm not convinced we should assign them upfront. Patches the Spider is a very risky "safe" name. First, it has a name in it, while all the other role names appear to be just titles (so it might be better to claim it as "The Trustworthy Spider"). Second, in the games Patches is a huge douchebag. He's the only character that's been in every Soulsborne (normally he's not a spider), and in every one he lures you into a trap. So claiming his name and trying to convince people it's a Town role seems unlikely to hold up.
Sickroom Doctor is also pretty sketchy: in the games she claims that anyone you send to her will be taken care of, but she actually does horrible experiments on them all in an attempt to become mother of an Old One child. She does give you buff potions for sending her victims, though.
Woman of Pleasure is pretty safe. She's another possible mother to the Old One child, but for her it's involuntary. Plus she doesn't go around killing innocent people. And she does give out buff potions, too. So yeah, she's frankly one of the least sketchy characters in Bloodborne.
Anyway, my point is it seems like if one of us comes under fire and needs to claim, The Woman of Pleasure is the only truly safe choice. So it seems to me like we'd be better off waiting until someone's in trouble and letting that person claim her rather than assigning names now and later finding out that weemad needs an out and he's been breadcrumbing a very non-Towny role the whole time.
In other news, the attention towards me appears to have died down for now. I've got a couple comments I'm able to make, but I'm kinda hesitant to post it in fear of coming back under the spotlight. But anyway, if I feel scrutinized again, one thing I intend to do is change my vote. I've gotten some complaints about my vote not being on No Lynch or Seath, so I might do that. Or if I see an opening to justify voting for someone else I might do that (although I fear voting for someone else in the hot seat looks too defensive). Any advice on that?
I should be around tomorrow for end of day, but I feel like it looks pretty sketchy to make a last minute vote, especially when you're a lead candidate (which I'm not anymore, but that can quickly change). Although in that case maybe I should post and vote tonight, so that if it does raise suspicions there's time for people to move on to the next shiny object before day's end...
Post by weemadarthur on Jun 11, 2016 21:50:18 GMT -8
Seath is too common a scapegoat, that's just attacking someone easy. It's a really obvious scum play, so I prefer to avoid it. Also with 24 players we could avoid each other just an eense more. You'll have to make a comment on my counter argument. You don't have to switch to positive on me, but maybe just say it's better another day and vote a quiet person for a prod, its day end so it's time for that to make sense. I think I adjusted my overall tone to taking the game seriously, would that motivate you to move your vote as town? Who looks suspicious to you? Call that out.
I think in your play time you should offer something new about one of the coasting players, like zipped, mazre or rynam. If it's in character, you could even question squidy, but he'll hit back hard.
Regarding fake claims, I hear you on the names. But we also need a plausible excuse for us to be out visiting our targets. Looking for one username reads like a lyncher, which are neutral. I don't want to claim neutral in our group. Too many neutrals this past season have been detrimental to town - including me - so I think it'll be harder to convince town not to lynch one.
I don't dare post being suspicious about those "beast" comments until we're sure town power roles aren't werewolves. That's why I stuck to behavior arguments with haly. They're fine arguments except volatile people fall into doing them whether scum or not.
Verelios you're doing good, offering enough posts not to trigger anyone wondering where you at, sounding like you're thinking, still nooby. Well done. You should skate into day three ok unless something horrible happens.
So in reviewing the thread, I noticed Kris is using the "give me eyes/line my brain with eyes" references a lot, and I'm wondering if that could be a signal from our hidden partner. "Give us eyes" is what the cultists say to the Old Ones to ask for their enlightenment/uplifting into eldritch abominations.
I was going to suggest we Hunt Kris to try to recruit him, since if he's not our partner he's an easy lynch at the moment. Killing Palmer tonight sounds good: hopefully it'll take some heat off me if one of my defenders gets offed.
At this time, Freakinchair is at the tipping point of being lynched. Trying to get Palmer up instead might seem like we're redirecting attention from chair, which could be bad going into day 2. As of now, there's 2 hours left, so I want to see how the last hour goes.
Post by weemadarthur on Jun 12, 2016 10:44:48 GMT -8
Well I intend to refuse to vote for chair. Ri can use a "me or him" argument in a pinch. Ver, you could flail around a bit but in the end it's a good idea to plan ahead between two vote options, to prevent emotional reactions - although posting an emotional reaction is a fine idea. But we'll probably end up with a role claim and might need a backup vote that's not too dangerous or suspicious.
I voted Freakinchair primarily because I don't want Kris to get lynched, and that he seemed like the best alternative (plus I didn't want to vote Halt because then the entire team would be on him). Obviously saving K isn't worth a significant sacrifice in credibility, but it's something I think we should attempt if it's easy.