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Post by kyanrute on Jun 12, 2016 9:21:52 GMT -8
so im gonna do nothing aka keep on drinking like the cabot i am
YAAAAAY
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Post by cabot on Jun 12, 2016 10:01:13 GMT -8
That's how to play me.
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Post by timetokill on Jun 12, 2016 13:26:41 GMT -8
Why should Retroid do the kill? If he gets investigated during the kill wouldn't he be exposed, and therefore increase our chances of losing the uberkill?
Like I said before, I'm okay saving uber for Night 2, but not much longer than that, if at all. The cover I could see for killing exo would be that he role claimed, which obviously puts a huge target on his back and makes him the obvious choice. But I understand that it would put some pressure on dragonz too.
On first blush, my vote would be for kingkitty, timeaisis, nin1000 or *Splinter.
I want to look for a target that we can use as a way to push suspicion away from dragonz and onto another townie. Killing kitty or timeaisis is nice because it gives town next to no information to work from. Voting for somebody with no votes against could be useful in this way. It also could push (more) suspicion onto Dusk Soldier, who had both of them vote against him.
*Splinter is a good kill simply because his reads are good and he's a good player. But on the other hand it might not help us manipulate suspicion in the way we want to.
Who do you guys want me to track? Should I try to verify the Bartender, or go after a target that we're not killing yet? A high profile like Splinter or hyper?
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Post by timetokill on Jun 12, 2016 14:13:06 GMT -8
So StackpoleH got replaced. That would be a hilarious target. Kill the replacement before they even post.
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Post by dragonz on Jun 12, 2016 14:27:05 GMT -8
Why should Retroid do the kill? If he gets investigated during the kill wouldn't he be exposed, and therefore increase our chances of losing the uberkill? Like I said before, I'm okay saving uber for Night 2, but not much longer than that, if at all. The cover I could see for killing exo would be that he role claimed, which obviously puts a huge target on his back and makes him the obvious choice. But I understand that it would put some pressure on dragonz too. On first blush, my vote would be for kingkitty, timeaisis, nin1000 or *Splinter. I want to look for a target that we can use as a way to push suspicion away from dragonz and onto another townie. Killing kitty or timeaisis is nice because it gives town next to no information to work from. Voting for somebody with no votes against could be useful in this way. It also could push (more) suspicion onto Dusk Soldier, who had both of them vote against him. *Splinter is a good kill simply because his reads are good and he's a good player. But on the other hand it might not help us manipulate suspicion in the way we want to. Who do you guys want me to track? Should I try to verify the Bartender, or go after a target that we're not killing yet? A high profile like Splinter or hyper? Track Exo, Ouro, or Splinter. If anyone is getting investigated tonight, it's me. I'm fairly confident Retroid wouldn't be targeted. Which is great for all of you, because you can use your powers without tipping anyone off. It's also great because I have no role to use, so as long as I do not do the kill, the investigate should yield no results of note. As for the kill, I think it should be Kitty. Splinter got some shade for being weird and his arguments with Crab distracted the conversation. Time I'd prefer to just watch, he doesn't seem to be that big of a problem atm
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Post by timetokill on Jun 12, 2016 20:49:09 GMT -8
What do you think the chances are that a townie with a PR quits the game and has to use a sub?
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Post by kyanrute on Jun 12, 2016 21:07:15 GMT -8
What do you think the chances are that a townie with a PR quits the game and has to use a sub? It has happened before, even multiple times I'd be willing to bet. I guess it is far to say that it is slightly more likely for a replacement to be ordinary than a pr but that is all.
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Post by kyanrute on Jun 12, 2016 21:10:10 GMT -8
Doing anything to Exo or dragonz risks you being seen by other roles. Some of these roles should not be in the game because they are stuuuupid (fuck watchers) but something like a redirect would not be out of a question imo.
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Post by timetokill on Jun 12, 2016 22:46:36 GMT -8
Okay I'm gonna reread the thread and list random thoughts:
#204 - Day 1 Begins #205/206 - hyper posts his opening bullshit, talks about how giant posts are bad in the middle of his giant posts #322 - SalvaPot bunny picture. White bunny is free, black bunny is in a cage. Nod to cop PR? #332/333 - more long hyper posts. trying to lead town discussion with questionnaire. #335/336/337/340/341 - jesus, hyper posts a lot, and when he votes or unvotes he doesn't do it right. wtf #345 - hyper responds to his own questionnaire, and breaks his own rule again by posting a huge ass wall of text. talks about his plan to actively question players, pressure them, and possibly engineer a competitive vote. mostly talks to himself. weird.
... hyper continues to post a lot with ouro and splinter ...
#360 - another huge post from hyper. #361 - tom questionnaire. mentions dropping hints in AC for power role. Need to check his posts in this thread carefully. #409 - batsnacks asks, "So... how 'bout those Dolphins? Yeah?" But less than 20 minutes after Ouro's last post. Something to do with flips? Actually its probably nothing but usually you say that kind of thing after a long pause.
#434 - Ouro posts his first "current reads" list, has none of us on it. If he's the spy, this is cover. #438 - Exo gives everyone a whiskey on the house, priming his "bartender" role
#445 - "*audible yawn*" from Timeaisis. I think he does this again later. Sleepwalker? #460 - "*silent nodding*" from Timeaisis. Okay.
#478 - batsnacks is ordering drinks for different groups based on perceived scumminess. doesn't mention me anywhere. #482 - batsnacks points out his drink names in case you missed it
#518 - Ouro's second reads list. Of us, Kyanrute appears as town. #530 - Catvoca breaks quote tags for the second time.
#569 - A Human Becoming is replaced by Tar-Miriel. #585 - Hyper posts again. Hasn't posted since #387, about 18 hours. #601 - Crab says he'll be active starting Saturday.
#640 - Here it is again. Timeaisis with the *audible yawn* #648 - Timeaisis says he will yawn loudly when he checks in. #674 - *audible yawn* from Timeaisis again, this time under cover of a joke
#727 - Ouro posts me, retroid, and kyan in his scum list. hope to god it's a spy tell. #749 - Tar-Miriel finally posts for the first time. Really late reading, or does she have a role and she's nervous to draw attention?
#781 - SalvaPot: "Vote me out, I am useless!" #783 - SalvaPot says he's the "homesick drunk."
#788 - *Splinter thinks I'm making excuses for when dragonz flips town. Excellent, I think that ploy worked. #798 - Crab says he's going to try and post this evening.
#823 - Tar-Miriel apologizes for not being caught up yet. #857 - Now SalvaPot says he's the "social drunk." #896 - SalvaPot says he's the "Obnoxious drunk" and that he can make people fail their night action.
#923 - StackpoleH says she doesn't understand why no lynch is suspicious. Are there roles that would especially benefit from no lynch first day? #935 - Splinter is trying to railroad toma, or get other people to, at any rate #975 - SalvaPot is now the "Hug-Happy Drunk." lol
#992 - euphemism makes an appearance. says he's "resigned to see this game through." slip up indicating he's got no PR?
#994 - Hyperactivity suspects me and dragonz are on a scum team together based on a certain interaction that he doesn't specify. #1000 - Now hyper specifies the interaction ad it's dragonz being defensive over my vote. unvotes because he notices i was more active than originally expected, and because i didn't change my vote. asks me a bunch of questions that i haven't answered yet, and I MAY be able to excuse because they're at the bottom of the page during a hectic time (true). Not sure how to handle this yet. We could just kill him I guess, but it would lay suspicion on me and dragonz.
#1001-1004 - The multi-posting and long-winded Hyper is doing the rounds again. #1019 - kingkitty suspects Salva and Dragonz as being scum partners. #1025 - kingkitty suspects dragonz slightly, says he'd look into catvoca if dragonz flips scum. I think me staying on dragonz here helps me throw suspicion on catvoca in the event dragonz gets lynched.
#1041 - batsnacks thinks absolutbro is scum and that catvoca is sheeping him. thinks lynching stackpole gives some info on me. thinks euphemism being lynched gives no info. #1050 - exo complains about long posts and says that's why he's not posting. #1071 - splinter starts complaining about D1 being unproductive. possible frustration at not getting a good read for his PR.
#1096 - stackpole votes me despite admitting that i probably won't get lynched. #1126 - Exo claims he's bartender and that he's breadcrumbed it.
okay now the votes are coming like crazy
#1170 - Catvoca notes that dragonz said she'd be away but turned up anyway. huge suspicion on dragonz. #1171 - dragonz claims town spy role, 6 minutes before sundown. lol.
... lots of questions interrogating dragonz.
#1183 - Catvoca is stymied by dragonz claim. #1185 - Hyper moves to Absolut. #1186 - Splinter casts deciding vote for Absolut.
DAY 1 ENDS
#1213 - zeemumu replaces StackpoleH #1214 - zeemumu night posts, then edits and leaves only a period. Not sure if he accidentally posted "hey" or if he accidentally posted PR stuff. Did anybody see?
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Post by timetokill on Jun 13, 2016 1:32:58 GMT -8
Okay, so with that in mind, I feel pretty good about Timeaisis being a sleepwalker or some sort of power role related to his constant yawning, and I think he's trying to give himself some leeway for when he gets seen by a tracker/watcher. Getting rid of him would mean my tracking is less likely to be messed up by his presence. Also, nobody voted for him in the end, though Ouro and Dusk Soldier both did at one point. Anyway it seems like killing him would leave very little info for the town to work from.
I like keeping town in the dark as much as possible, so it feels like a strong play to me. But I'll defer to your judgment, since I'm new at this.
I feel like tracking Ouro to help verify our suspicions would be most helpful, but if you guys are confident that he's the spy then I'd figure Splinter to be the best choice.
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Post by timetokill on Jun 13, 2016 1:39:17 GMT -8
I meant to note that Timeaisis might also be trying to build a case to claim sleepwalker when he gets seen even though he's not. Either way it suggests a power of some sort.
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Post by dragonz on Jun 13, 2016 5:49:51 GMT -8
If you can, try to bring up the Salva role switch. It's suspicious and there's no real reason for it. But don't do it immediately, because you can bet your bottom dollar every Townie will question me the second day 2 starts. You should be among them. Once the dust settles, bring up Salva.
Time may be a good lynch, we don't know much about him though and he hasn't really been a huge threat in the thread.
Zee's post was something about finally showing up to the game. I don't think he realized night phase was a thing; he's new as well. It wasn't anything super important.
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Post by cabot on Jun 13, 2016 7:15:39 GMT -8
I'm going to remind you to submit your night actions 24 hours before deadline.
I mean technically this could be called a reminder, but I'm a mod. Fuck y'all.
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Post by kyanrute on Jun 13, 2016 7:41:31 GMT -8
I'm fine with Time lynch but I think I prefer kitty. I am slightly worried that Time was openly breadcrumbing on purpose, as if he'd want to tank the kill. Bit of a paranoid thought, certainly. Ouro for the track? We shouldn't track anyone that could die tomorrow = Splinter, and tracking Exo might backfire with switchers or something. Ouro is in the middle of the discussion constantly, so it'd be good to know something, no matter his alignment.
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Post by timetokill on Jun 13, 2016 9:05:24 GMT -8
Glad zee's wasn't anything important. Thanks dragonz.
Okay, fewer than 4 hours to go, then. I was thinking about this as I was going to sleep last night.
My plan is to stay on dragonz and complain that she wasn't lynched. Standard fake townie stuff. However, perhaps instead of killing Time, we use potential knowledge of his ability against him?
dragonz has already role claimed Spy. Town is going to want that verified. What if I track Time this night and ensure he went somewhere? If he did, I can feed that info to dragonz, who can then say she spied Time and that she's sure he's Town. This will signal to Time that dragonz is likely Town and potentially help bring heat off her. This will give me cover to drop my tunneling against her and switch to Salva.
If all that goes to plan, whenever dragonz gets lynched, Time will be an obvious target for the town because he'll look like he's been supporting her fake role claim.
Alternatively, I could track Ouro to try and confirm he's a spy, and Dragonz could still claim all that stuff about Time, though we'd have no proof so to speak. But if my read is right he'll automatically go somewhere tonight anyway. I'm not sure if there are other potential roles where yawning would be a breadcrumb.
Exo I think is too high profile to track, somebody will likely notice me, and perhaps on Splinter as well.
I'm fine with killing the kitty tonight if that's what you guys want to do, absolutely. He's only linked to hyperactivity and Dusk Soldier and literally nobody voted to lynch him during the day, so the info gain for town is minimal. So he's a great target in my mind.
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Post by kyanrute on Jun 13, 2016 9:13:39 GMT -8
36. I will accept Night Actions up to one hour before the Day starts. Missing actions will be decided at Moderator’s discretion.
he just reminded us that he will remind us
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Post by timetokill on Jun 13, 2016 10:25:45 GMT -8
Yo, guys, just over 2 hours. POST
especially Retroid. anybody seen him?
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Post by dragonz on Jun 13, 2016 10:37:39 GMT -8
If you want to track time so we get a claim that's fine
Otherwise I was going to make my role not investigative but rather more like a choose your own adventure with a decision based event; the only PR that is have would be that I am untargetable by PR's. I can still be lynched. That way, if I am tracked, it will explain why nothing comes up (because in reality I don't have any powers).
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Post by dragonz on Jun 13, 2016 10:38:38 GMT -8
Reminder that Kyan or Retroid should submit the kill
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Post by dragonz on Jun 13, 2016 10:40:04 GMT -8
We have time, kill. He's taking them up to an hour before we start day 2, and that happens tomorrow. We don't have to submit them 24hrs in advance
Also I'm going to bed so I'll be around tonight, let me know what you guys decide and I'll base flavor around it
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Post by timetokill on Jun 13, 2016 10:48:01 GMT -8
I'm going to remind you to submit your night actions 24 hours before deadline. I mean technically this could be called a reminder, but I'm a mod. Fuck y'all. We have time, kill. He's taking them up to an hour before we start day 2, and that happens tomorrow. We don't have to submit them 24hrs in advance but cabot just said we need to submit 24 hours before the deadline? or is he saying he'll remind us again in 24 hours? that's very confusingly worded.
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Post by timetokill on Jun 13, 2016 10:52:08 GMT -8
Thanks for indicator of what you're going to do, dragonz. Anyway, I'm on board with tracking Time to try and verify sleepwalking, or tracking Ouro to hopefully verify spyness. Let me know what you guys prefer or would be more useful, or if you have another target in mind.
For kill, kingkitty seems to be the popular choice and I can't argue against it.
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Post by timetokill on Jun 13, 2016 11:20:51 GMT -8
OK, as kyan pointed out, the rules state up to 1 hour before the day starts. whew.
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Post by Kawl on Jun 13, 2016 18:39:30 GMT -8
Yea, that's right. 2 whole hours.
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Post by Retroid on Jun 13, 2016 18:52:02 GMT -8
Hello my friends. I have not forgotten about you. I was really busy this past weekend (hence why I said that I would not likely be able to check in on the main thread before the days end). If you would like me to perform the action today, I would be glad to do so. I think I have come out looking somewhat suspicious so I don't mind taking the risk.
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Post by timetokill on Jun 13, 2016 19:52:18 GMT -8
Yea, that's right. 2 whole hours. How it's two hours?
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Post by timetokill on Jun 13, 2016 19:54:46 GMT -8
Retroid, let me know who you think I should track. Seems like kingkitty is the consensus choice for (normal) kill, and maybe between Ouro/Time/?? for track.
Also I would imagine we want kyan to submit the kill so we don't get Retroid in trouble and lose his uber?
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Post by Retroid on Jun 13, 2016 20:07:52 GMT -8
Kyan is a better player than myself and so, as much as it would suck for us to lose our guaranteed kill, it would also suck to lose Kyan. As far as who to track, I think the people you have brought up are interesting but personally, I would love to see TheExodu5 or SalvaPot be tracked. They both voted to not lynch at some point and TheExodu5 could definitely be a target tomorrow. Having some information on them might be a good thing, and it might shed light to why they did what they did.
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Post by Retroid on Jun 13, 2016 20:08:32 GMT -8
Hey mods! Can we post our actions in here? Sorry if this has been answered before. I liked doing that in Lovers, it was convenient.
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Post by timetokill on Jun 13, 2016 20:19:12 GMT -8
lol, well, I'll trust you on the kyan thing. Definitely hope you don't get lynched, but then again it's unlikely considering some other targets.
Exo is an interesting one, and I want to know more, but I feel like I'll get caught investigating him tonight. He's claimed bartender and I imagine town wants to verify that as much as we do. But I haven't played before so I don't know how much "getting caught" is a real concern. I'm okay looking at Salva, and I think batsnacks is another interesting possibility.
Lots of choices.
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