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Post by cabot on Jul 9, 2016 1:18:14 GMT -8
Just me then!
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Post by timetokill on Jul 9, 2016 11:37:53 GMT -8
If it's on Spotify I'll give it a listen on my way to work today (yes, Saturday...) 
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Post by neverforever on Jul 9, 2016 12:36:17 GMT -8
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Post by neverforever on Jul 10, 2016 8:34:43 GMT -8
I'm wondering if we could flip Mazre's claim into our win
the only reason scum would believe Mazre's claim was because we knew his three listed people were Town / not-scum, and so we believed he was a standard alignment cop
the risk is that having three confirmed Town at this stage in the game is... risky for us
but we can paint Lone_Prodigy as one of Kyanrute's scum partners by combining the fact that he was likely to believe Mazre's claim as genuine, with his shady voting record, his choice at the start of today to launch immediately into saying he had a drink, and also Kyanrute putting him as a 'null read'
we can say Kyanrute put L_P as a 'null read' jic his claim was believed and he lived another day, just to distance in case L_P's dodgy behaviour came back to bite him later and he flipped scum
we'd need to definitely off one of those three tonight (nin, Time, Salva)
but if town lynch MattyG tomorrow, then we've won
but it's really risky for me to make that line of logic known in the main thread because we'd both be putting ourselves on that shortlist and it could completely backfire
idk, what do you think?
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Post by neverforever on Jul 10, 2016 8:43:47 GMT -8
...also I might make the bold move of claiming Town bulletproof for myself lol
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Post by neverforever on Jul 10, 2016 13:13:54 GMT -8
...I regret my decision
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Post by timetokill on Jul 10, 2016 14:29:36 GMT -8
We're thinking on the same lines... i can possibly get them to lynch LP today but tomorrow I'll be toast... which means you'll have to win it for us on the last day.
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Post by neverforever on Jul 11, 2016 3:18:59 GMT -8
hmm
if enough people jump on L_P's MattyG vote, and MattyG flips Town, we can win tomorrow without me needing to bus you, one of us can just be like 'see guys we were right the whole time' and immediately vote L_P, hopefully Town will walk right into it and then the other one of us can hammer
otoh, if L_P goes, the two of us argue that we majorly stuck our necks out and built cases against him, and MattyG just threw his lot in with us, scum are likely to be lying low knowing that town will eat itself, I'm sure that we can find something that works
...basically let's just say a prayer that the vote doesn't flip onto either of us, aha, although if it goes onto me, you can point out post-mortem that I was trying to deflect from Timeaisis and SalvaPot and prematurely remove them from the running, that'll give you some mileage
we'll see, you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink
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Post by cabot on Jul 11, 2016 3:20:10 GMT -8
I should make Brexit MAFIA game next.....
just kidding, I'm never moderating again!
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Post by neverforever on Jul 11, 2016 5:55:22 GMT -8
Brexit mafia would have some hilarious roles, 'I think we've all had enough of experts' is a scum command that automatically kills all power roles + all players that make sense.
nnnnnn ttk, actually if you're convinced you're going to lip sync for your life tomorrow, you could always make this fun and go for broke
just say whoever you tracked performed the scum kill
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Post by neverforever on Jul 11, 2016 9:40:03 GMT -8
Town should give me MVP, I'm putting in werk to scumhunt myself
fuck I've basically just guaranteed the 1/3 chance that I go today
the win/loss for us will come down to the lynch order and how town prioritises the candidates, so tense
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Post by timetokill on Jul 11, 2016 11:59:18 GMT -8
If I survive the whole game somehow I'm definitely getting MVP
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Post by neverforever on Jul 12, 2016 9:22:44 GMT -8
oh yeah, definitely. you've really done a stellar job, I'm impressed, especially considering it's your first game! Hopefully I won't drag you down with me
L_P is unravelling a bit, I feel bad for the guy but I really hope that Town don't buy it
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Post by timetokill on Jul 12, 2016 12:52:12 GMT -8
Bwahahahaha
All is going as planned
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Post by timetokill on Jul 12, 2016 13:04:07 GMT -8
First impression is we kill nin or Gorlak tonight. Gorlak most likely. Nin says he's not bulletproof now but who knows, he may be trying to draw the hit. And maybe Gorlak is telling the truth and a random dies. That'd be funny.
Have to think. If I blame MattyG and they believe me, then yay. But if they don't, they may turn on you. Then again I put my scum read list specifically as LP, MattyG, NF for that reason... so if they lynch me, hopefully they'll think neither of you are scum and lynch Timeaisis.
Alternatively I blame you, NF. If they believe me, you're dead... but they'll wonder how I was still alive after finding yet another scum. So it ends up bad.
Basically if I blame you I need to ensure I get lynched so they avoid you the next day...
I'll probably hold off and see how conversation goes before taking a course of action. If I get turbo'd at least I'm in a pretty good spot to not have you be suspected.
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Post by neverforever on Jul 12, 2016 14:40:17 GMT -8
fuck me this game is stressful, I need a stiff drink and a stiff dick
Of those two options, I want to kill nin tonight. He was never bulletproof, which was why Mazre was initially convinced he was scum, because he got a vanilla read N2. We should be fine. If Gorlak gives me a drink tonight, the way he says it there's a 1/3 chance I'll die. I would rather not take that chance, haha.
We can't kill MattyG because ideally he's the one we're stitching up tomorrow. We can't risk Gorlak. We have nin, Timeaisis and Salva as our options. (god I was wondering if there were more names for a minute but I realised there's only seven of us left). Actually, Timeaisis prioritised me over MattyG in his little scum ranking, so I'm thinking maybe if we kill him and then say it would be too obvious for me to kill someone suspicious of me at such a late stage? But he's also suspicious of you so uuuuuugh. But nin was suspicious of you. Fuck.
tomorrow, you have four options A) you tracked me and saw nothing B) you tracked Matty and saw nothing C) you tracked me and saw me doing the kill D) you tracked Matty and saw him doing the kill
I don't like C, because I think we can win tomorrow without you bussing me, but it's down to your judgement, and if you think your solo win on a later day is more probable than the two of us tomorrow, eh.
A and B are the paths of least resistance for you, and are basically you saying 'idk I saw nothing but their scum partner may have done the kill'. That'll turn it into the me v MattyG bowl and urgh that'll be a nightmare.
the riskiest option tomorrow is D, and if we play it wrong and they catch on we're dead, but L_P's last statements placed the utmost faith in you and he gave you a get out of jail free card with all his 'if I were scum I'd leave ttk alive to cause doubt and raise the likelihood of a mislynch', and obviously he was Town, so I definitely think we could point to those reasons
I honestly think we should go with D, because I can't be arsed to fight for my life tomorrow and it offers great potential for our win, but obviously that puts you at risk, and I completely understand if you want to play a longer game and maybe bus me tomorrow instead.
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Post by neverforever on Jul 12, 2016 14:46:02 GMT -8
you just need to say that you're an easy out for scum to point fingers at at this point, maybe?
idk, sorry, I'm being really selfish and putting pressure on you to make the big move tomorrow, purely because I'm a lazy bitch and I'd rather do the least, but I completely understand if you'd rather not
I'm wondering if Salva is maybe the easiest road for the kill then, purely because he's neither use nor ornament
our three candidates are also good candidates for deflections for the lynch tomorrow, so idk, Timeaisis probs has the most credibility?
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Post by timetokill on Jul 12, 2016 21:20:34 GMT -8
I'm still trying to decide if I'm mad at L_P for bringing that up, because I'd already thought of it and it was going to be my plan of attack tomorrow. Now it sounds like something I'm just clinging to. Or maybe it planted the seed in their heads anyway.
I don't mind what you're saying, it's all good. I don't mind making the big move, I mean, the spotlight is going to start on me anyway. I just have to figure out how to play it.
Nin is a weird case. Sure, he says I'm scum, but he has said that practically every day about me. And in the end he doesn't always vote for me. So it's strange. My concern is that killing him will make me seem even guiltier since he was "onto" me. Leaving him alive may make me able to say I'm not scum or else he'd be dead.
I think we should kill the person who is LEAST LIKELY to be lynched tomorrow, as well as not a possibility of blowback. Like you said, Gorlak is out in case it backfires. I feel like the least likely candidate to die is Timeaisis. He had 0 votes yesterday, meaning nobody should be a surefire candidate... unless you think there's an incriminating post for one of us about him. He's also probably accumulated the least votes overall.
Nin is a good choice, I just wonder who it will blow back on. Don't get me wrong -- I LOVE the idea of him getting killed because he's talkative. If he's gone, then tomorrow it's mostly just Gorlak talking to himself, which would make it easier on me for sure. Nin and Gorlak together could easily get a turbo to happen, which is playing with fire... could end up good or bad for us.
So in my opinion it should be Timeaisis or Nin. Timeaisis because he's practically invisible and gives no info, and Nin because he's a loudmouth who is unpredictable. I can live with either, but we have a little more time to talk it over thankfully.
I'm not sure which scenario I'd be more likely to bus you in, if that's on your mind. I'm not planning on doing it but will if I think it will give me townie points enough to live through the last day.
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Post by neverforever on Jul 13, 2016 14:58:57 GMT -8
I agree on Timeaisis or nin, and I'm not sure which way to lean. Leaving nin alive is playing with fire, like you said, he could be an asset or a liability, and it's a question of how many risks we want to take, but obviously you can justify scum leaving your biggest doubter alive in order to raise the chance of a mislynch
there's no clear safe choice, unfortunately, it's a difficult call to make
at the very least if we leave nin he'll cause chaos for Gorlak and the thread tomorrow, Gorlak left unimpeded on his wild thought rambles could be worse if he starts bandying thoughts around with somebody who's more receptive to him
of course it's entirely probable that Gorlak's claim is a whole lotta BS, and maybe he's done it because he's realised that we've tended to lean on the safe side and take everything as read, but calling his bluff and shooting ourselves in the foot at this stage in the game would not be great
yeah, honestly, don't worry, bus me and flip the day if it looks bad, I think of the two of us you're far more likely to be able to take this on your own. As long as one of us is still alive, we still have the chance of a win. I wouldn't be mad at you, ahaha.
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Post by timetokill on Jul 13, 2016 20:54:29 GMT -8
Here's what I'm thinking. We kill Timeaisis. I track MattyG. I say he didn't go anywhere.
+ It leaves all the more suspicious players in the game. + He was 2nd on my scum list (after L_P) so it makes sense that I would track him. - You become a more likely target tomorrow. If this is the way the tide is moving I have to jump on. + However, if I get lynched tomorrow, you become a LESS likely target the next day, as MattyG would become the prime suspect. + I can argue that if I was scum there's no way I'd let Timeaisis be the target, because that would be stupid. + MattyG will probably be grateful for the assist and keep heat off of me.
That's how I'm feeling right now. Let me know what you think. It's your kill, so I'll go with your choice. You know my thinking, so I'll leave it to your judgment. Just don't forget to post your kill! I think tracking MattyG is the best choice no matter what so I'm just gonna do it.
MODS PRETEND THIS IS RED BELOW HERE LET ME KNOW IF YOU GOT IT
------------- TRACK: MattyG -------------
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Post by cabot on Jul 13, 2016 23:02:57 GMT -8
I am colour blind, I can only see red things.
Ive updated the spreadsheet.
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Post by neverforever on Jul 14, 2016 7:10:01 GMT -8
I agree with your judgement
KILL: Timeaisis
curious to see how the others start the day, would be amusing if nin and Gorlak eat each other
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Post by cabot on Jul 14, 2016 11:49:21 GMT -8
I gots your order
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Post by neverforever on Jul 14, 2016 16:04:11 GMT -8
going to bed now,
thought for when I get up: likelihood of successfully spinning it all back on Gorlak? he added stuff to his claim yesterday to explain why he wouldn't be nightkilled, which puts holes in his 'I'm just a harmless person handing out drinks' narrative
MattyG is townreading me and getting bamboozled, and I'll say I've been townreading MattyG, and the only explanation for that and its conflict with the calculations is that the scum PR is one of you guys (you or Gorlak), I think Matty'll buy it
we can call back to L_P's 'call a spade a spade' and say, hold on a minute
also his whole town-leader thing, 'no willy-nilly votes guyz', nin is obviously desperate to stick it to him
idk, I'm mulling it over, obviously I'll lead and we'll see how it goes, but do you think it could be a fruitful line of action? the issue is that that turns the heat on you a bit, if you don't mind?
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Post by timetokill on Jul 14, 2016 16:24:43 GMT -8
This is a great thought, N_F. I started thinking about Gorlak with that stuff today... Also Gorlak gave me a drink last night and wants me to announce, but I'm not sure how to deal with it. As a townie I guess there's no reason not to? Am I missing something?
Anyway, so far they're reacting to last night's kill pretty much as planned.
I do like that nin is angry about Gorlak. If we're on top of things we might be able to hammer one of those two.
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Post by timetokill on Jul 14, 2016 16:25:59 GMT -8
Also with what you're planning we might get Matty to go after Gorlak. Have to think he possibly likes me for practically clearing him today.
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Post by neverforever on Jul 15, 2016 7:58:33 GMT -8
yeah sure announce you have the drink I don't think there's anything wrong with that
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Post by cabot on Jul 15, 2016 8:11:37 GMT -8
I'm announcing that I have a drink.
I've been given a drink, from myself.
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Post by neverforever on Jul 16, 2016 12:17:50 GMT -8
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Post by Kawl on Jul 16, 2016 12:19:52 GMT -8
Tell me about it.
Thanks at least for playing this mylo unlike the other 4 people not named Gorlak...
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