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Post by nin1000 on May 6, 2016 4:54:44 GMT -8
Well, tell me when you gyus wake up, i am at work and would love to chat with you guys and talk about the ongoing game.
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Post by nin1000 on May 6, 2016 4:57:02 GMT -8
Since this is a private chat, we have to use it. Its a huge advantage to talk openly about the game. even if you have reservations
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Post by Camjo-Z on May 6, 2016 5:14:53 GMT -8
In a class atm, but will respond a little later.
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Post by Camjo-Z on May 6, 2016 6:55:55 GMT -8
OK. I have a proposal for y'all. I trust Bronx-Man's towniness, and although nin could be mafia, I gotta trust him too because we're not going to get another chance like this. Also, I figure if he was mafia, he probably would have withheld the info that I moved, for reasons that will soon become apparent. HERE WE GO!
So: I'm the arsonist. SHOCKING, I know. I've been trying to figure out how I can play this role like a good guy without outright losing, and I think I've figured out a mutually beneficial situation. It's a risky proposition, but we might be able to pull it off.
First off, the "three target arsonist" thing some people are peddling is BS. I don't have to kill three targets, I have to douse everybody still living. Also, originally the role didn't even have the ability to ignite, but after I whined about it Retro agreed that was too cheap that way and gave me two ignites. I have to kill everyone with the second one though, or else I can't "claim victory". However, the PM doesn't say I get instantly killed or anything if I don't win with my final ignite, so this is where I'm thinking we use a little LOOP-HOLE!
Screw the rules, this is GAFIA BABY!!
Here's my plan.
First off, I'm igniting tonight, for two reasons. 1. I want people to chill out about the "THREE TARGET ARSONIST!!" crap tomorrow. I was trying to steer the conversation away from AbsolutBro and CzarTim a bit yesterday, because I'd rather not see somebody die because they're being mistaken for me. I can't douse and ignite in the same night, so people will back off for tomorrow while we continue to scumhunt.
2. I'd rather not keep Ouro around. From what he's claimed, his role is apparently the exact same thing as mine except WAY less difficult to achieve. I can only douse once a night, but he can drink two people a night (although he says two of his drinks have been stopped somehow... hm...). Also, I have to actually kill people in the end, whereas he can just give out some free drinks and skedaddle. He doesn't even have to worry about claiming in the open since he's "non-lethal", and mafia will actively want him to stick around since he has no real stake in the game and furthers their win condition when he leaves. It's pretty fishy to me. Either he's lying or his role is just plain better than mine... and in both cases I don't want him around anymore. Roy is an unfortunate but required casualty (Hyper is the one who doused him, and actually he wasn't even trying to do that - he attempted to douse himself to escape this shitty role but it turns out that's not allowed so somebody random was picked.)
Secondly, we need to find and kill all the mafia. This is where I do my part - I'll help by playing as a townie, and continue to perform my mandatory douse randomly without igniting, while the three of us will know that we're on the same side. Mafia has been playing really badly, so this shouldn't take too long. This is the part of the plan I want some advice on, but more on that later in this post.
Thirdly, once the night kills stop and we've eliminated all mafia, town can repeatedly no lynch until I've doused all but one remaining townie. Then, I IGNITE! Since it will only be me and one other townie alive, neither side will be able to meet their win condition, as we can't vote each other out and I won't have any ignites remaining. So... it's a stalemate, but the mafia side will have lost more because they're all dead... which technically means that by default, town and arsonist JOINT WIN!! (Even if the mods refuse to count it that way, it will still be a memorable ending, and that's what we really want out of Gafia 2, isn't it?)
Finally, the part I want advice on is whether this plan should be brought up to the rest of town or not. I'm thinking it might be a good idea. Mafia might just want to get rid of me, which will waste one of their nightkills better spent on a townie. I lose in that scenario, but there's basically no way I legitimately win with all these motion detectors and shit, so I'd rather go out for a cause. However, if the plan is outed town in general might think keeping the arsonist alive is a bad idea and waste a lynch getting rid of me, which would just be a net loss for both sides. Still, Bronx-Man is a confirmed townie who can vouch for the plan's legitimacy. So, what do you guys think?
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Post by nin1000 on May 6, 2016 9:57:55 GMT -8
ok lol. Let me read through that. but for now take me as a yes. This sounds insane but you know me. I am down for it. Will put down my thoughts on this in a bit. relax i wont say a thing.
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Post by nin1000 on May 6, 2016 10:02:45 GMT -8
Trust me Camjo, i had my doubts about being too talkative since, i did not know you were mafia. But now, that i know you are the arsonist and not mafia. This makes me feel good. Trust me, i am Town since i have that role i said and heard you move on D2.
Another thing i would like to know , can you douse everyone ? I mean can you target players only your table or all the players on the map. again dont worry. since i know you are not Mafia everything that will be said here will be kept in secret and i wont reveal anything you dont want to reveal.
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Post by Camjo-Z on May 6, 2016 10:05:46 GMT -8
I can douse anyone. I suggested that it was table-limited in the thread to keep people off my back for the day... it mostly worked.
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Post by nin1000 on May 6, 2016 10:06:09 GMT -8
That means you are going to kill who tonight ? Ouro and ?
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Post by Camjo-Z on May 6, 2016 10:08:28 GMT -8
Ouro and Roy.
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Post by nin1000 on May 6, 2016 10:09:53 GMT -8
Thats seems good enough. Please try to get Burbeting next. He seems too Town for my taste.
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Post by nin1000 on May 6, 2016 10:10:50 GMT -8
Oh and timeaisis. Since i know now that you moved on Day 2. Day 1 is still a big question mark. Timeaisis and Burbeting are my biggest concerns.
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Post by nin1000 on May 6, 2016 10:16:38 GMT -8
If Burb is not a miller he is Mafia. trust me on this one. He is trying to be the leader. i dont like that smell.
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Post by nin1000 on May 6, 2016 10:17:10 GMT -8
i laughed my ass off reading that reveal and looking at that avatar of yours. Too fucking fitting ^^
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Post by Camjo-Z on May 6, 2016 10:18:08 GMT -8
Well, if I use the ignite tonight (and I've already sent in the command, dunno if I can reverse it since Retro probably already set up the death flavor and such) I can't kill anybody else since I need my last ignite for the end of the plan.
Otherwise, achieving the end goal of a joint win would require town to intentionally just vote themselves off instead of me after mafia is gone, and I get the feeling everyone would rather just double cross me and get the win if that happens.
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Post by nin1000 on May 6, 2016 10:25:35 GMT -8
no no , killing them for the moment seems like a good think. Roy and Ouro seem like good targets.
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Post by nin1000 on May 6, 2016 10:29:10 GMT -8
Sorry if you did not mention it already but since you will ignite today will you be able to douse other targets the following nights aswell as ignite ? If that is the case. douse Burb
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Post by nin1000 on May 6, 2016 10:31:29 GMT -8
hahahah. Poor Roy man. I dont feel bad ouro though. He deserves to burn.
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Post by nin1000 on May 6, 2016 10:32:41 GMT -8
Try to burn Bronx at one point if he doesn't post in this chat before the night ends. Oh and if i die. please. Kill Burb
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Post by Camjo-Z on May 6, 2016 10:41:32 GMT -8
I only have two ignites, but I'll keep dousing the scummiest targets and play it by ear on whether or not to use it early and hope town rewards me in the end. Burbeting is currently at the top of my list but I can't really pin anything on him yet since even though Kalor was maf, he was the unknown. It could have been maf Burb trying to get rid of what he thought was a commuter, or town Burb sniffing BS. I'm hoping we get some more info on him tomorrow.
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Post by nin1000 on May 6, 2016 11:00:22 GMT -8
hey Bronx Man. Glad you have a good taste in music. Not everyone likes Death Grips. Not everyone is great. Those who like Death Grips are great People. You like Death Grips. you are a good man.
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Post by nin1000 on May 6, 2016 11:09:00 GMT -8
dont ignite Bronx Man, i changed my mind.
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Post by Bronx-Man on May 6, 2016 11:11:37 GMT -8
Aw, well thanks.
And Camjo, I'm in for the plan. It sounds like the easiest way for town to get a win for once.
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Post by nin1000 on May 6, 2016 12:10:36 GMT -8
Aw, well thanks. And Camjo, I'm in for the plan. It sounds like the easiest way for town to get a win for once. My man !
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Post by nin1000 on May 6, 2016 12:18:29 GMT -8
Just take care Camjo. When are you planning to reveal ? I know that the moment you will reveal you will get a lot of hate and disgust from everyone. so i dont know if its safe to claim that early
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Post by Camjo-Z on May 6, 2016 12:27:37 GMT -8
Aw, well thanks. And Camjo, I'm in for the plan. It sounds like the easiest way for town to get a win for once. RADICAL Just take care Camjo. When are you planning to reveal ? I know that the moment you will reveal you will get a lot of hate and disgust from everyone. so i dont know if its safe to claim that early Yeah, I'm thinking I'll try to stay hidden for tomorrow at least, but if I have to out I'll do it. I know there's probably going to be some pushback from guys like Launch and Burbeting who are really skeptical. That's another reason I wanted to use one ignite today, it'll be a lot easier to convince people I'm not a three-and-done arsonist like the working theory has suggested when I've ensured that I'll have to stick around until N5 at least before I can possibly kill 3 people.
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Post by nin1000 on May 6, 2016 12:55:21 GMT -8
Aw, well thanks. And Camjo, I'm in for the plan. It sounds like the easiest way for town to get a win for once. RADICAL Just take care Camjo. When are you planning to reveal ? I know that the moment you will reveal you will get a lot of hate and disgust from everyone. so i dont know if its safe to claim that early Yeah, I'm thinking I'll try to stay hidden for tomorrow at least, but if I have to out I'll do it. I know there's probably going to be some pushback from guys like Launch and Burbeting who are really skeptical. That's another reason I wanted to use one ignite today, it'll be a lot easier to convince people I'm not a three-and-done arsonist like the working theory has suggested when I've ensured that I'll have to stick around until N5 at least before I can possibly kill 3 people. Launch and Burb will push HARD against you mate, so i would suggest to NOT reveal tomorrow. I for one will push for RNH or Seath. I would love to push for Burb but he is the real rock. playing Town like a real Town player. Trust me HE IS NOT ! if i am Wrong i will eat a muffin.
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Post by nin1000 on May 6, 2016 13:00:10 GMT -8
timeaisis will come from the back and just vote you without saying much. Fuck him aswell.
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Post by nin1000 on May 6, 2016 13:01:31 GMT -8
camjo. I wont be here when the day starts. : /
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Post by nin1000 on May 6, 2016 13:03:52 GMT -8
Lets get over it again. Day will start with a mafia kill + your 2 fire kills. 3 players dead.
I will then try to blame Burb, because he pushed for a mafia kill and not trying to get the arsonist killed.
Of course its nice Kalor died but we lost good players because of that ( good players lol will say some bs like thtat)
My vote will either be cast upon Timeaisis or Burbeting. Town will then try to push for a AB Lynch.
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Post by nin1000 on May 6, 2016 14:19:44 GMT -8
Currently at my way home and on my forst listen through the new death grips album. Ohhhh damn. I am grinning like a small kid. Currently listening to trash. Soo good. Like damn. Almost too good. We might aswell talk about the new death grips album Bronx man. I heard you like it.
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