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Post by Roytheone on Mar 22, 2016 13:12:27 GMT -8
Fake claims posted. Feel free to use or to ignore.
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Post by karu on Mar 22, 2016 13:12:29 GMT -8
Nah, sadly can't do both.
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Post by Sorian on Mar 22, 2016 13:16:34 GMT -8
Nah, sadly can't do both. Alright, so Pop is our killer for now then, if he strong kills then we'll have to choose someone else the following night. Makes sense, nice balance so far Roy. If we can kill whoever Karu is putting on his disguise for then he can become a good second killer since the town check thing is a passive ability.
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Post by Sorian on Mar 22, 2016 13:18:52 GMT -8
Azrael would make a good miller claim for myself I think? Red Hood is missing from our safe list, hope he isn't in the game as a miller >_>
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Post by Roytheone on Mar 22, 2016 13:23:50 GMT -8
Rewritten the roles a bit too better Line up with how the real ones are.
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Post by Sorian on Mar 22, 2016 13:29:49 GMT -8
I'm Joker so I don't have a real name. Am I too assume that you guys have your names written like: "Basil Karlo aka Clayface"
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Post by karu on Mar 22, 2016 13:34:30 GMT -8
Matt Hagen, but yes.
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Post by Sorian on Mar 22, 2016 13:38:49 GMT -8
Good to know, would have stumbled on my claim otherwise lol
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Post by Coppanuva on Mar 22, 2016 16:17:48 GMT -8
Pamela Lillian isley aka poison Ivey for me. But you can call me Greengal. Also my underwear is made of plants. I have no idea if this is relevant to the game or not.
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Post by Sorian on Mar 22, 2016 16:41:51 GMT -8
I forgot to ask Coppa. Is your target notified that anything happened to them?
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Post by Coppanuva on Mar 22, 2016 16:43:01 GMT -8
I forgot to ask Coppa. Is your target notified that anything happened to them? Not sure, I need to check on that but I haven't seen anything suggesting it.
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Post by Pop-O-Matic on Mar 22, 2016 21:26:57 GMT -8
Just Bane for myself, with no "real" name.
Also, I have to say that I'm not exactly too fond of Sorian claiming miller early on. Feels like it'd be too expected and would probably just be held as a sign that you're scum trying to preemptively cover your ass. I think a better strategy might be to just play D1 as normal, then, if when you get called out as scum by the cop, claim ordinary and either yourself or someone else should start floating the idea of a framer, since your status as a natural lightning rod means that scum would probably target you with such a role N1 to get you lynched the following day. Is it risky? Certainly, but, if town buys it, then it'll probably leave you in the clear for a while.
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Post by Sorian on Mar 22, 2016 22:31:11 GMT -8
Just Bane for myself, with no "real" name. Also, I have to say that I'm not exactly too fond of Sorian claiming miller early on. Feels like it'd be too expected and would probably just be held as a sign that you're scum trying to preemptively cover your ass. I think a better strategy might be to just play D1 as normal, then, if when you get called out as scum by the cop, claim ordinary and either yourself or someone else should start floating the idea of a framer, since your status as a natural lightning rod means that scum would probably target you with such a role N1 to get you lynched the following day. Is it risky? Certainly, but, if town buys it, then it'll probably leave you in the clear for a while. True but a miller claim would have the same effect if I can survive day 1 but pre-empts the investigator and that's really the crux of all of this, do we think I'll be investigated or not. I was also planning to target myself with my vote block night 1. Early on, I doubt the vote block will be the make or break on who gets lynched so I'm figuring that with such a public display (Sorian always has a vote up, everyone knows it) that might clear me for awhile. A vote anonymously destroyed and a joke put in it's place? I don't think it's a stretch to expect someone from town to do the lifting for us and put 2 and 2 together that it was the joker doing something and with heroes vs. villains as the teams that could very well act like a clear for a long time. I won't go ahead with the miller plan if we think it is an issue though. Blarg/Kawl's miller claim fell apart because they tacked too much onto it. Gafia has a running tradition of millers in games so really, it's a toss-up when someone claims it if they are lying or telling the truth and if nothing else, this'll become divisive enough that it'll let all of us float naturally amongst both sides and "finding scum" within the lazy group that wants to policy lynch.
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Post by karu on Mar 23, 2016 3:53:24 GMT -8
Ah cool, was just about to ask if you are able to vote for yourself.
Coming just off Love Boat I wanted to make a joke first thing asking if someone wants to claim first chance they get. If I was Town and you claim Miller I would want to kill you immediately. Would I/we do it, though? Doubtful, if no one else counter-claims after the fact. Well, we have still a bit time til start, I guess to muse about the best options...
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Post by Coppanuva on Mar 23, 2016 7:23:55 GMT -8
I forgot to ask Coppa. Is your target notified that anything happened to them? Not sure, I need to check on that but I haven't seen anything suggesting it. I asked and it turns out I failed reading comprehension since it was mentioned in my pm. No they don't get explicitly notified but it could be obvious dependant on the power (i.e. vig)
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Post by Sorian on Mar 23, 2016 7:35:07 GMT -8
Not sure, I need to check on that but I haven't seen anything suggesting it. I asked and it turns out I failed reading comprehension since it was mentioned in my pm. No they don't get explicitly notified but it could be obvious dependant on the power (i.e. vig) Gafia will assume switcher I'm sure. They have hard on's for switcher 
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Post by Coppanuva on Mar 23, 2016 9:27:37 GMT -8
I asked and it turns out I failed reading comprehension since it was mentioned in my pm. No they don't get explicitly notified but it could be obvious dependant on the power (i.e. vig) Gafia will assume switcher I'm sure. They have hard on's for switcher  true that. Anyhow in regards to Miller plan I'm not sold on it. Maybe throw it in later in d1 if we can suss out who the cop is. We can pretty easily manipulate all their strikes if we can identify them. I think you could use the Miller claim as a way to revive dead discussion when it calms down d1. It would read more protown if needed. That said, if you do it I'm going in hard against you initially.
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Post by Sorian on Mar 23, 2016 9:51:32 GMT -8
Gafia will assume switcher I'm sure. They have hard on's for switcher  true that. Anyhow in regards to Miller plan I'm not sold on it. Maybe throw it in later in d1 if we can suss out who the cop is. We can pretty easily manipulate all their strikes if we can identify them. I think you could use the Miller claim as a way to revive dead discussion when it calms down d1. It would read more protown if needed. That said, if you do it I'm going in hard against you initially. Please, you know I like it hard Coppa, no worries here. I may have to wait until later in day 1 though and you make a good point that I could spin it as pro town pretty easily to revive discussion because my worry is that people will be more obnoxious if I wait to long. The real weakness here is if there is a real Miller. I'd be screwed if there is a counter claim.
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Post by Roytheone on Mar 23, 2016 10:51:10 GMT -8
Not sure, I need to check on that but I haven't seen anything suggesting it. I asked and it turns out I failed reading comprehension since it was mentioned in my pm. No they don't get explicitly notified but it could be obvious dependant on the power (i.e. vig) You are not the only one that failed PM reading comprehension in this team *looks at Karu*.
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Post by karu on Mar 23, 2016 11:02:02 GMT -8
oh fuck, uno momento... Oo 
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Post by karu on Mar 23, 2016 11:06:11 GMT -8
Okay, here's the (new) deal...
I have to send the Transform-command during the Day. It holds until I use a Kill command during the night. (And yes, as the PM is phrased I don't have to resend it) I will loose the Transformation ability activated in the day prior for that particular night. A new Transform command can be send as usual the following Day. I can never use the same role name twice, though.
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Post by Sorian on Mar 23, 2016 11:10:09 GMT -8
I asked and it turns out I failed reading comprehension since it was mentioned in my pm. No they don't get explicitly notified but it could be obvious dependant on the power (i.e. vig) You are not the only one that failed PM reading comprehension in this team *looks at Karu*. This is why I let my scum just copy and paste their role PMs straight into scum chat, less confusion that way  Okay, here's the (new) deal... I have to send the Transform-command during the Day. It holds until I use a Kill command during the night. (And yes, as the PM is phrased I don't have to resend it) I will loose the Transformation ability activated in the day prior for that particular night. A new Transform command can be send as usual the following Day. I can never use the same role name twice, though. So, let me make sure my reading comprehension is good. If you transform day one into an ordinary and then never make a kill until night 5, for example, then you are just going to show as an ordinary until night 5 without any further need for commands?
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Post by karu on Mar 23, 2016 11:32:38 GMT -8
Okay, here's the (new) deal... I have to send the Transform-command during the Day. It holds until I use a Kill command during the night. (And yes, as the PM is phrased I don't have to resend it) I will loose the Transformation ability activated in the day prior for that particular night. A new Transform command can be send as usual the following Day. I can never use the same role name twice, though. So, let me make sure my reading comprehension is good. If you transform day one into an ordinary and then never make a kill until night 5, for example, then you are just going to show as an ordinary until night 5 without any further need for commands? You know what... that's exactly how I read it, but I'm not entirely sure. It's says I have a Day-command to transform, which does XY while it's active (Doesn't specify on the last part). The Night command describtion says that I can do it, but my Transformation for the night would cease to be active. I can't use a role name twice if I choose to retransform.
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Post by Sorian on Mar 23, 2016 11:44:06 GMT -8
Roy, can we get the user manual for Karu's role please?
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Post by Roytheone on Mar 23, 2016 11:50:18 GMT -8
You are not the only one that failed PM reading comprehension in this team *looks at Karu*. This is why I let my scum just copy and paste their role PMs straight into scum chat, less confusion that way  Okay, here's the (new) deal... I have to send the Transform-command during the Day. It holds until I use a Kill command during the night. (And yes, as the PM is phrased I don't have to resend it) I will loose the Transformation ability activated in the day prior for that particular night. A new Transform command can be send as usual the following Day. I can never use the same role name twice, though. So, let me make sure my reading comprehension is good. If you transform day one into an ordinary and then never make a kill until night 5, for example, then you are just going to show as an ordinary until night 5 without any further need for commands? This is how it works, yeah. Karu will keep that fake name until he does the kill, which removes the name from that night onward (so he already loses it the night he does the kill). He will have to resubmit a new fake name the following day, and he can never use the same name twice. Also, if he wants he can choose to change his name while another one is still active, but that will also make the previous name invalid to use again.
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Post by Sorian on Mar 23, 2016 12:01:11 GMT -8
So, odds are, Karu, the first two choices you make are extremely important unless things go south for us really fast with Pop dying or otherwise getting screwed over by roleblocking. Either you get investigated early on which would make number one important or you get investigated at mid-game which means you might have a different disguise because odds are high you'd be making the kill when Pop is on cool down (I might be making the kill though since I have plans for my power). We'll probably play your first one by ear depending on how day 1 goes? It's smartest to transform near the end of day 1.
Hey Roy, Coppa and I (I assume) both have the the stipulation that if we are the last ones left then we can use both our power and kill. Does Karu get any fun stipulation like that where he can kill but not lose his transformation?
My plan above by the way for my power is to play it like it's an x-shot if it looks like I may survive to end game (lol doubt it) and re-use it at the end when they are in lylo to fuck them over.
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Post by Roytheone on Mar 23, 2016 12:06:54 GMT -8
Nope, the only advantage you guys get is that you can kill+night action, which is not relevant to karu since transform is a day command.
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Post by Coppanuva on Mar 23, 2016 20:32:09 GMT -8
So uhh the hunt starts soon eh?
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Post by Sorian on Mar 23, 2016 22:02:17 GMT -8
So uhh the hunt starts soon eh? I'm sure it'll be a hunt for the ages. Or it'll all blow in our faces but probably a hunt for the ages.
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Post by Roytheone on Mar 24, 2016 2:22:10 GMT -8
Game will start in: 
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