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Post by Roytheone on Oct 28, 2015 11:42:50 GMT -8
Pops: I don't know if Roy maybe decided to break the rules....
SERIOUSLY? SERIOUSLY POP? SERIOUSLY?
SERIOUSLY???
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Post by Retro on Oct 28, 2015 11:44:51 GMT -8
LOL Cabot.
EDIT: Seriously, Kalor, quit dancing around. Make your claim, or step back,
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Post by Sorian on Oct 28, 2015 11:46:49 GMT -8
Hey Ouro, is Kalor allowed to straight copy/paste the message he got from Roy?
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Post by Roytheone on Oct 28, 2015 11:48:23 GMT -8
Just a random thought: what would have happened if a tracker tracked kalor? Would he get the result "you target visited roytheone", because that would have been hilarious if it happened before kalor claimed.
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Post by Sorian on Oct 28, 2015 11:51:51 GMT -8
What is Pop talking about? How does Coppa being a neutral mean that GC was lying?
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Post by Roytheone on Oct 28, 2015 11:58:19 GMT -8
I have a bad feeling that when they find out I never visited GC N1, they will take that as a sign that GC is lying about his role. Which would be a huge jump to a (probably wrong) conclusion. Guys.... I was right.
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Post by Sorian on Oct 28, 2015 12:00:13 GMT -8
Hyper is the scummiest mother fucker these days.
Edit: I mean this in the nicest way possible.
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Post by Roytheone on Oct 28, 2015 12:04:20 GMT -8
I wonder, if his power is truly every night, why didn't he contacted swamped n1? Would not give the most information, but why not?
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Post by Sorian on Oct 28, 2015 12:07:13 GMT -8
Kalor is probably like me. I don't actually care about your reads list especially once I know you are town and Swamped didn't have a PR so what information was there to get? Plus she wore everything on her sleeve as she went out. She couldn't really provide anything new.
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Post by Sorian on Oct 28, 2015 12:15:36 GMT -8
Assuming we have a doctor and they don't get lynched today. Who would you guard tonight? Kalor or Pop? Let's assume that the doctor takes them both at face value and thinks they are both telling the truth and town-aligned.
I'd choose Kalor.
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Post by Swamped on Oct 28, 2015 12:15:50 GMT -8
Yaay Kalor did it!
I don't believe LP's claim, but i think it's pretty great.
Doctor should protect Kalor tonight because Sorian can still give info on who he blocked N2.
Of course, doctor shouldn't say anything because then scum will have to take the safe way out and kill someone other than Pop or Kalor.
Still think Cabot and Splinter are town.
Still think Hyper is scum. I'm still kinda wary of Palmer though...
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Post by Roytheone on Oct 28, 2015 12:16:07 GMT -8
I guess that is fair. However, since he can contact us every night, we can still actually be part of this town by keep giving him our thoughts about everyone. 1 read list from swamped may not be useful, but input from a dead thread filled with confirmed townies can be of value.
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Post by Ourobolus on Oct 28, 2015 12:17:28 GMT -8
Hey Ouro, is Kalor allowed to straight copy/paste the message he got from Roy? no. same rules as PMs. He even asked me.
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Post by Sorian on Oct 28, 2015 12:20:27 GMT -8
I guess that is fair. However, since he can contact us every night, we can still actually be part of this town by keep giving him our thoughts about everyone. 1 read list from swamped may not be useful, but input from a dead thread filled with confirmed townies can be of value. Well sure, now there is a group here so it is more worth it. N1, it was just Swamped so it wouldn't have accomplished much. He might also be bluffing about it and was only a one shot.
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Post by Sorian on Oct 28, 2015 12:22:39 GMT -8
Who's ready for the next plot twist? Coppa was switched N1, someone else is the neutral
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Post by Cherry Bomb on Oct 28, 2015 12:24:52 GMT -8
Who's ready for the next plot twist? Coppa was switched N1, someone else is the neutral If that's the case then GG town. If they don't hit scum tonight then we could potentially be looking at a LYLO tomorrow.
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Post by Roytheone on Oct 28, 2015 12:25:10 GMT -8
Who's ready for the next plot twist? Coppa was switched N1, someone else is the neutral If that happened, I would be pretty pissed I specifically choose Coppa because he was suspicious but also not very likely to be targeted by switchers/framers etc.
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Post by Sorian on Oct 28, 2015 12:34:52 GMT -8
Man, now I don't know anymore. I just expected Coppa to say that he wasn't neutral.
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Post by Sorian on Oct 28, 2015 12:37:29 GMT -8
Hmmmm, they should kill L_P, Pop should follow Coppa. Coppa needs to actually role reveal tomorrow and then take it from there. I still contend that not every neutral is bad, killing Coppa too early could very well hurt town instead of help.
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Post by Swamped on Oct 28, 2015 12:40:44 GMT -8
Coppa is just trying to save himself at this point. It's hard to argue against a cop investigating you. If he has a killing role he can make things easier for scum and try to win with them.
Still don't know what's going on with the dolls though, that actually sounds like a neutral role to me. But Coppa can't be the killer and doll distributor.
What do you guys think of Fireblend btw? He was pinging me as town...but I'm not sure anymore.
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Post by Sorian on Oct 28, 2015 12:41:32 GMT -8
Also, this shit is ominous:
"but Roy was right in seeing me as neutral that night."
So what, is he not neutral every night? lol
Is he an amnesiac? Tell me he is an amnesiac. Let's go full town of salem up in here.
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Post by Swamped on Oct 28, 2015 12:41:59 GMT -8
Hmmmm, they should kill L_P, Pop should follow Coppa. Coppa needs to actually role reveal tomorrow and then take it from there. I still contend that not every neutral is bad, killing Coppa too early could very well hurt town instead of help. I dunno. Coppa will gain nothing from helping town, since they have to lynch him in the end anyway and therefore he loses. I think it's much easier for the neutral to side with mafia with this sort of town win condition.
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Post by Sorian on Oct 28, 2015 12:43:42 GMT -8
Coppa is just trying to save himself at this point. It's hard to argue against a cop investigating you. If he has a killing role he can make things easier for scum and try to win with them. Still don't know what's going on with the dolls though, that actually sounds like a neutral role to me. But Coppa can't be the killer and doll distributor. What do you guys think of Fireblend btw? He was pinging me as town...but I'm not sure anymore. I fear that he faked disinterest in his own death and is now scum that is "cleared". I'm getting that vibe but he is so low priority right now compared to everything else going on that I can't be bothered to worry about it and I don't think they should either.
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Post by Swamped on Oct 28, 2015 12:45:02 GMT -8
Town has more important things to worry about than Fireblend, but we dont lol.
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Post by Sorian on Oct 28, 2015 12:45:46 GMT -8
Hmmmm, they should kill L_P, Pop should follow Coppa. Coppa needs to actually role reveal tomorrow and then take it from there. I still contend that not every neutral is bad, killing Coppa too early could very well hurt town instead of help. I dunno. Coppa will gain nothing from helping town, since they have to lynch him in the end anyway and therefore he loses. I think it's much easier for the neutral to side with mafia with this sort of town win condition. We kind of had this argument day 1, didn't we? I highly doubt he is a survivor of any sort. He is there to make his win condition and leave. Town doesn't have to lynch him if he wins. It's always optimal for town to lynch the neutral at the halfway point of the game (up to town to figure out when that is) because neutrals will almost always be pro-town during the first half of the game and pro-scum the second half and neutrals very much swing favor towards the team they are currently supporting.
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Post by Sorian on Oct 28, 2015 12:46:21 GMT -8
Town has more important things to worry about than Fireblend, but we dont lol. Well sure, but I'm saying that if he is scum, that'll become more apparent as time goes on. He might be, he might not be. It's hard to get an accurate read right now. Just my two cents.
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Post by Sorian on Oct 28, 2015 13:15:46 GMT -8
Hyper is just straight not paying attention. Ignoring whether I believe the claims from Coppa or L_P, I wonder what would happen if that Coppa claim copied L_P's current claim.
Edit: Yeah, Kalor is a boss, he don't care about outdated reads lists lol
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Post by Sorian on Oct 28, 2015 13:35:06 GMT -8
"even if dead thread was only filled with cardboard boxes, the ability to figure things out with someone you KNOW is town is HUGE"
Eh, I politely disagree. Just because we all trust each other in here doesn't mean we don't succumb to groupthink just as easily.
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Post by Swamped on Oct 28, 2015 13:39:31 GMT -8
Ughh now i feel do embarrassed that my outdated reads list is out there.
One good thing from this however is that people should belive Kalor's claim more since it would be difficult to make all that up.
Also, i think Splinter is Town ;_; Kalor forgot to say that...
But thanks for relaying our wishes, The Sorrow.
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Post by Sorian on Oct 28, 2015 14:26:08 GMT -8
I would have copied Splinter with this power N1 I think. I get advantage regardless of the outcome because I'd either become scum, become bulletproof, or know that Splinter is a liar but still town so I can safely ignore him. Matt is a weird decision and is oh so convenient because he is dead.
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