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Post by Cherry Bomb on Oct 27, 2015 13:11:49 GMT -8
No hard feelings, Sorian. You played the way you thought was best and you played it well, and that's something worth respecting.
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Post by Roytheone on Oct 27, 2015 13:12:50 GMT -8
Does Matt have anything to add? 19 characters left lol! You guys already said to keep an eye on Sorian, so I'm good! Edit: lolol Looooool |
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Post by Retro on Oct 27, 2015 13:13:19 GMT -8
Does Matt have anything to add? 19 characters left lol! You guys already said to keep an eye on Sorian, so I'm good! Edit: lolol Eyes were kept on Sorian. Deadly eyes. |
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Post by Swamped on Oct 27, 2015 13:14:07 GMT -8
Lol we all suck soooo much.
We're all crap.
Sorry Sorian.
You can have the chocolate chip cookies.
Edit: i mean in terms of our death message. LOL
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Post by Swamped on Oct 27, 2015 13:15:25 GMT -8
So maybe Splinter is mafia... (again lol)
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Post by Sorian on Oct 27, 2015 13:15:55 GMT -8
Sorry for being an asshole everyone. I had a whole pre-post lined up to answer all of their obvious questions and if you all don't mind, I'm going to post it in here (because damn it, it took me a half hour to type).
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Post by Ourobolus on Oct 27, 2015 13:16:00 GMT -8
Boobs
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Post by Retro on Oct 27, 2015 13:16:04 GMT -8
Do it You magnificent bastard. |
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Post by Sorian on Oct 27, 2015 13:16:44 GMT -8
Welcome to day 3 everybody. You'll recall that we all left on shaky terms at the end of the last day phase. First off, I'd like to apologize to both Scrafty and Swamped, at the very least, I hope we'll be able to find some interesting voting patterns in there but for now, this pre-typed message is to answer all of your questions about me. So let me bring you back to Pop fumbling yesterday (whether this was done on purpose or not, I do not know, like I've said, a tracker can be and has been scum-aligned) Sorian was the one I tracked Now, the intrepid set of you may have tried to solve my role claim. It seemed pretty obvious to me but breadcrumbs and hints usually seem obvious to the person leaving them. I stayed semi-vague though because odds are, scum wouldn't kill me while I was a point of contention and the most likely lynch candidate today. Looks like I was right (easy for me to say since this wouldn't get posted if I die  ). Sorian was the one I tracked Yup and I'll be at splinter's door again. All according to the plan. Spoilers: I'm the role blocker. "Easy to say!" You might all be thinking. Well no, not really. I actually hinted to both Coppanuva and Pop multiple times yesterday that this was case. Let's start with Pop: So Pop, you are saying you tracked someone and they visited Splinter? Just want to make sure I have my ducks in a row. Correct. Also, I have to somewhat agree with you assessment of GC, but I'll wait until later in the day and see if anything more incriminating pops up. I made sure to ask this question so that Pop and everyone else saw this point come up again. I also feigned interest so that Pop knew I was watching. OK, real quick, I want to ask Splinter if he wants to stick by his claim that he's bulletproof, because I'm starting to have second thoughts about not revealing who I tracked last night, and his claim will probably determine if I do or not. He brought up revealing me and I started talking to him more. I'm curious here, will we find out why we don't want you dead at a later point, or is that something you're planning to hold to your chest until you're on the chopping block? I don't want to lose information by having you die on us unexpectedly. I'm not asking for a claim here, I'd just like an understanding of your nature. As for Fire since he got added into the mix and I didn't put up an opinion... I'm going to go reread his posts and form an opinion. As far as information goes, you will not lose anything if I die unexpectedly. You would just do better if I survive today's day phase. I'm aware how sketchy that sounds but, again, I've viewed everything that you said and I'm basing this on you being honest.
I'd also like to take this opportunity to say something to Pop as a general piece of advice since he is new to some more advanced mafia roles. Pop, if you find that anyone you followed dies. You should immediately reveal who they were. It's something I just thought of but as an example, if the person who visited Splinter turns up dead at any point and you are still around, you should let us all know that so-and-so was the one who visited Splinter N1.
Told him that he should reveal everything about me immediately if I died so that people knew who I was role blocking. OK, real quick, I want to ask Splinter if he wants to stick by his claim that he's bulletproof, because I'm starting to have second thoughts about not revealing who I tracked last night, and his claim will probably determine if I do or not. As an extension of my advice from my last post. Keep in mind that whoever you followed is 100% a PR if you aren't lying about your claim. They could be scum, neutral, or town-aligned. With how yesterday went, what team do you think would have visited Splinter and for what purpose? Keep that answer in mind before you reveal anything because outing a town PR will hurt, not help. Told him to think before acting because he would be outing a PR. I didn't want to straight tell him the person was a town PR because how would I know that but I told him to evaluate the situation. I'm not entirely sure. I mean, I'd expect bulletproof to be a town power role more than a scum one, so I'd assume that they'd be the one most likely to send a hitman or a role cop to test their claim. Then again, the person who I tracked hasn't been trying to get Splinter lynched yet, so I assume that there's a good chance that they're on the same side, or that the person I tracked doesn't want to draw suspicion to themselves and therefore are holding off unless the rest of the town decides to go after Splinter. Either way, I still want the intel just so I can get a better read on them, and I don't want to reveal who I tracked until it becomes relevant enough. Fair enough, if you care about my two cents, I think there are three possibilities of who would visit Splinter. He would have been a grand investigation target, Roy is dead though and I doubt we have more than one investigator so that's out. If a roleblocker is in play, then they would have roleblocked who they found suspicious. I know there were some suspicions on Splinter yesterday (myself included) so a roleblocker visiting would make sense. Finally, since Splinter was a great investigation target, that would also make him a great target to frame so a framer (usually scum-aligned) would probably try to visit Splinter. I highly doubt a killer of any kind would have visited Splinter N1. Whether they want to believe his bulletproof comment or not, it's not worth the risk of losing a NK when there are so many other targets to try. Me trying to straight tell Pop what I was as subtly as possible. Of course I knew that Pop was interested in what I had to say on the matter but I had to act coy hoping only Pop would pick up on it. My target hasn't claimed yet. Based on the interactions I've seen in this thread, I'm about 99% sure I know who you tracked so yes, I'm aware that they have not claimed. What I'm saying is that it's something keep in mind when you are choosing a target tonight. I lied, I was actually 100% sure but again, trying to wave my hands as fast as possible to tell Pop that I know he followed me and hoping that he picked up on my last post. "Ok," you may be thinking, "but maybe you were trying to lie to Pop" Sure, maybe I was but then I also had a little thing going on with Coppa. Let's take a look at that. Again, keeping this in mind: Sorian was the one I tracked Yup and I'll be at splinter's door again. All according to the plan. What plan? Anyone? Anyone? GC is sketchy but since he is out right saying that he is a vet now, I see no reason for this lynch today. I'm actually kind of surprised that there is no 3rd party killer of any sort now but testing that idea is easy. If we have a roleblocker, do exactly what you did last night. If we have a doctor, you should be on Pop still. This creates the same circumstances we had last night. No one should target GC for anything and by morning, we should only see one death. If we see two then it is likely that GC is lying and we can move from there. "But Sorian!" you say "What if GC is actually a killer of some sort and he decides to take a night off?" Later Coppa brings up my plan which is why I took a gamble and started trying to hint at him. I thought this was less subtle but whatever: I didn't realise this was the last day. Not sure why I moved my vote to GC really. I don't trust him but he's more likely to be neutral than scum. VOTE: SorianYeah, GC doesn't really strike me as a scum play right there. Claiming Boss is a heavy claim to make this early, and I can't imagine a scum team using the board to communicate would agree to go along with it. Do you distrust his role claim as well? I'm not really sure I buy his claim about Roy investigating him being super likely. Yes he was suspicious, but he was hardly the most suspicious person that day. Wouldn't Roy have wanted to investigate someone who was looking the most likely to be in contention the next day? This is all conjecture, but my guess would be Roy would want to fully examine someone suspicious in order to claim them (you/me/sorian/Pop, being the people who had the most suspicion cast on us the first day). There is a chance he's correct on this, and Roy DID want to investigate him, but I'm also not sure I buy that claim fully. I'm with Sorian on the whole repeat the previous night plan, at least then we'll know the likelihood of his telling the truth.In the interest of having a vote down right now: Hyper doesn't seem too off to me. GC is easy enough to catch in a lie this early on. Sorian... you've changed a lot in tone today. I'm not sure I quite like that. VOTE: SorianThis is easily changeable and I should be active throughout the end of this day phase (my migraine has cooled off yay), so don't pretend this is binding, it's just how I am leaning now. I'm curious here, will we find out why we don't want you dead at a later point, or is that something you're planning to hold to your chest until you're on the chopping block? I don't want to lose information by having you die on us unexpectedly. I'm not asking for a claim here, I'd just like an understanding of your nature. As for Fire since he got added into the mix and I didn't put up an opinion... I'm going to go reread his posts and form an opinion. As far as information goes, you will not lose anything if I die unexpectedly. You would just do better if I survive today's day phase. I'm aware how sketchy that sounds but, again, I've viewed everything that you said and I'm basing this on you being honest.
I'd also like to take this opportunity to say something to Pop as a general piece of advice since he is new to some more advanced mafia roles. Pop, if you find that anyone you followed dies. You should immediately reveal who they were. It's something I just thought of but as an example, if the person who visited Splinter turns up dead at any point and you are still around, you should let us all know that so-and-so was the one who visited Splinter N1.
So yeah, I was saying things all of D2 to reveal myself except for actually revealing myself because I figured my time was coming. Now, for the part that everybody loves. I am The Fear and I am, indeed, aligned with Foxhound. I had to look this one up and learned that I was a boss from MGS3 and in The Boss' Cobra unit (which is why I'm partial to believe that The Boss is foxhound aligned and why I took GC's claim at pretty face value). I role block players by stunning them for the night.
With all of that out of the way, I hope that we can drop the pretenses about me and move on here. I role blocked Splinter N1 because, frankly, I don't trust him. I saw two deaths come D2 and I assumed that Splinter wasn't any type of serial killer and if he was scum, he did not perform the kill. I did also role block him last night, as well, to tinker with GC's claim. Let's see how things shook out because this was typed last night so I have no idea what the day looks like. That being said, keep in mind that Splinter has not been able to perform whatever his night action is yet (if he has one) so if something new or amazing happens after I am gone, try to put 2 and 2 together.
PS: <Insert witty joke about how Ouro made me a role blocker after I was his role in Gafia and he was a role blocker> |
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Post by Roytheone on Oct 27, 2015 13:17:03 GMT -8
LOL, they may caught a scum red handed and will get the neutral on a silver platter. Good day for town.
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Post by Swamped on Oct 27, 2015 13:17:05 GMT -8
Please do. Sorry for suspecting you ;_;
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Post by Roytheone on Oct 27, 2015 13:19:26 GMT -8
BTW, Sorian, you just missed us being able to send a message to the medium. We only had 500 characters though, so that would have driven you insane I think.
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Post by Sorian on Oct 27, 2015 13:19:41 GMT -8
So yes, I'm very very sorry for what I did to both of you Swamped and Scrafty (though I did read scum from you both so it wasn't just blind flailing). I purposely swung votes very quickly near the end of the day to keep scum confused on how they should keep up impressions and where their votes should be. It's not a strategy I would use with a lot of newbies but I figured it would reveal interesting things for the high number of vets in this game. If Palmer is town (god I hope Palmer is town) then he is going to be able to analyze those vote patterns way better than I would have been able to.
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Post by Ourobolus on Oct 27, 2015 13:21:31 GMT -8
Now I'm positive I played my role of Sorian the Roleblocker well.
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Post by Retro on Oct 27, 2015 13:23:30 GMT -8
Now I'm positive I played my role of Sorian the Roleblocker well. >GRUMBLE<  |
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Post by Cherry Bomb on Oct 27, 2015 13:23:45 GMT -8
So yes, I'm very very sorry for what I did to both of you Swamped and Scrafty (though I did read scum from you both so it wasn't just blind flailing). I purposely swung votes very quickly near the end of the day to keep scum confused on how they should keep up impressions and where their votes should be. It's not a strategy I would use with a lot of newbies but I figured it would reveal interesting things for the high number of vets in this game. If Palmer is town (god I hope Palmer is town) then he is going to be able to analyze those vote patterns way better than I would have been able to. No hard feelings. Things happen, and you've gotta make the best with what you've got. My only regret is that I was so sure you were scum that my death message is going to look really, really mean now |
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Post by Ourobolus on Oct 27, 2015 13:24:21 GMT -8
Scrafty still got her revenge though.
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Post by Sorian on Oct 27, 2015 13:24:32 GMT -8
Now I'm positive I played my role of Sorian the Roleblocker well. I see the medium hijinks happened already (I was super worried about some type of dead interaction which is why I took so long to PM an apology to you Swamped). Is anything like that going to happen again or am I allowed to ask if I've been role blocking the doctor for the past two nights or something equally ridiculous? |
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Post by Ourobolus on Oct 27, 2015 13:25:06 GMT -8
Not saying anything
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Post by Roytheone on Oct 27, 2015 13:25:19 GMT -8
Coppa :the one kill night means roy visited gc n1!
Hahahaha, oh poor coppa, he has NO idea what is coming his way.
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Post by Sorian on Oct 27, 2015 13:28:27 GMT -8
Fair So yes, I'm very very sorry for what I did to both of you Swamped and Scrafty (though I did read scum from you both so it wasn't just blind flailing). I purposely swung votes very quickly near the end of the day to keep scum confused on how they should keep up impressions and where their votes should be. It's not a strategy I would use with a lot of newbies but I figured it would reveal interesting things for the high number of vets in this game. If Palmer is town (god I hope Palmer is town) then he is going to be able to analyze those vote patterns way better than I would have been able to. No hard feelings. Things happen, and you've gotta make the best with what you've got. My only regret is that I was so sure you were scum that my death message is going to look really, really mean now Nah, be mean to me, I can handle it. I do want to address one thing about that post Splinter made to me. Maybe I didn't convey myself well but I wasn't trying to pretend that I'm some expert scum tracker. I knew that it was becoming exceedingly obvious that I was a PR of some sort and I wanted scum to think I was something super important so that they would waste the night kill on me. That's why I said something about playing a game with them and seeing if they should leave me alive as a scapegoat or not. I wanted them to think I had some super duper level PR that they had to remove. I mean, a role blocker is important, but the waves I made day 1 weren't doing town any favors and without any solid leads, I'd be doing more harm than good and those leads weren't coming. That's where that post was coming from. |
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Post by Matt on Oct 27, 2015 13:29:38 GMT -8
Coppa :the one kill night means roy visited gc n1! Hahahaha, oh poor coppa, he has NO idea what is coming his way. It's gonna be so good. |
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Post by Roytheone on Oct 27, 2015 13:32:39 GMT -8
Ugh, all this apologizing and hugging it out in here....
I never had beef with any of you, so where are my hugs! I want hugs goddammit!!!!
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Post by Sorian on Oct 27, 2015 13:33:01 GMT -8
Man, I knew I should have dug into that weird ass doll question. I only ignored it because no one else seemed to care and I thought I just didn't understand some inside joke.
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Post by Swamped on Oct 27, 2015 13:33:21 GMT -8
I wonder how the medium will present the information. Should be a fun day. Looks like they have loads of leads today as well.
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Post by Roytheone on Oct 27, 2015 13:36:51 GMT -8
DROP THAT DOLL ASAP POPS! IT IS BAAAAAD NEWS. I am certain it will let scum use his power themselves.
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Post by Sorian on Oct 27, 2015 13:37:37 GMT -8
DROP THAT DOLL ASAP POPS! IT IS BAAAAAD NEWS. I am certain it will let scum use his power themselves. So that means Splinter had the doll yesterday which means I role blocked scum from using Splinter's role if he has one? |
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Post by Swamped on Oct 27, 2015 13:37:46 GMT -8
So that doll thing must the scum's way of roleblocking, perhaps with disastrous consequences.
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Post by Cherry Bomb on Oct 27, 2015 13:37:35 GMT -8
Between the medium's information about Coppa and Pops' surveillance of LP I'd say town's set up for a grand slam today. Let's hope they don't strike out.
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Post by Sorian on Oct 27, 2015 13:39:53 GMT -8
cabot is still confused on what Pop's role is lol
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