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Post by Coppanuva on Feb 8, 2016 16:18:23 GMT -8
Yea, I'd say those are decent guesses for what the town will have as power roles. Might end up having a variety of weak investigative roles instead of a pure cop as it seems like some of the overlords here on Gafia seem to be pushing that idea. Have we started gathering ideas for all of our unnecessary gambits? I'm thinking that the pair mechanic makes this game a little more difficult for us as each "scum" member has twice as many chances to slip up and seem scummy. Love Bites - Def Leppard Hmmm gambits... I dunno. Tim once told me "Gambits are rarely necessary as scum."
I don't think we should jump the gun on it too early. Maybe some backup roleclaims, but those are almost always better to come up with as needed IMO. I'll go with my default "We were a doppleganger!"  (No not really  ). I'm thinking we could claim a BP type role, not sure what the title would be. Jealous couple? Guarded couple? Paranoid?
For the record, Flame and I are divorced. I'm guessing our roles are going to primarily be named negative things that poison love (jealousy, divorce, BDSM???). I'd need to see some flips to see if that's a for sure thing, but right now it might be a safe assumption.
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Post by Kawl on Feb 8, 2016 16:27:15 GMT -8
Me and Blarg are best friends. So we aren't named negatively.
But yea I was mainly joking, I think we should be more passive and wait to get some more information before we start spinning lies.
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Post by Kawl on Feb 8, 2016 16:29:58 GMT -8
I do hope my best bud Blargypoo checks in soon.
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Post by Coppanuva on Feb 8, 2016 16:33:27 GMT -8
Me and Blarg are best friends. So we aren't named negatively. But yea I was mainly joking, I think we should be more passive and wait to get some more information before we start spinning lies. Oh really? Interesting... good to know though. Also I might have to cede the Solo and Chewie part to you and blarg then .
Sigh... I guess Flame can be C3 and I can be R2...
Also I wonder if they have a switcher... given our powerset a switcher could be a logical counter to our tracker right?
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Post by Retroid on Feb 8, 2016 16:54:17 GMT -8
Hey everyone !
So, if your power is limited, might it be a good idea for myself and Kyanrute to block you to figure out what the PM is like, and that way you can use it in the future?
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Post by Coppanuva on Feb 8, 2016 17:07:27 GMT -8
Hey everyone ! So, if your power is limited, might it be a good idea for myself and Kyanrute to block you to figure out what the PM is like, and that way you can use it in the future? I like this. Presumably it wouldn't take away their usage of the power either... I've thought some that using it immediately might not be the best plan in all cases (given we have 3 uses). We'd be essentially guessing early on, and while we might get some info from it, it could serve us better if we have actual targets to identify to use it. It'd also let us know whether or not the target gets notified if they were blocked, since sometimes they don't receive notice. |
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Post by Coppanuva on Feb 8, 2016 17:12:11 GMT -8
Also in an exciting development the thread now thinks we're very handsome young men. So we have that going for us.
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Post by Coppanuva on Feb 8, 2016 17:22:37 GMT -8
Oh and FYI: I won't be posting answers to my musical challenges here. You want that prize you earn it. I am, however, going to make them much more difficult than I had planned in hopes nobody guesses them. I'm a man of my word after all, I can't NOT run it.
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Post by Retroid on Feb 8, 2016 17:27:39 GMT -8
The only disadvantage I see to blocking you first is that we lose a block on someone in town, but maybe it's worth the risk?
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Post by Kawl on Feb 8, 2016 17:36:58 GMT -8
Chances of hitting a PR are pretty low any ways. Gives us a safe claim if we end up needing it. Also if yall get tracked would be convenient to be seen visiting us. Only qualm would be whether Burb wants to verify whether that would be a shot of our power gone or not.
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Post by flameac on Feb 8, 2016 18:56:55 GMT -8
We're not likely to hit a town PR so I think that it would be a good idea to block our own. It gives us a Day 2 where perhaps you two can say you were blocked, might make things interesting. It's not really a waste if we can have even more information, plus it doesn't reveal to town so early that there is a roleblocker. I think that might be something we would want to mask for as long as possible.
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Post by Coppanuva on Feb 8, 2016 20:00:12 GMT -8
We're not likely to hit a town PR so I think that it would be a good idea to block our own. It gives us a Day 2 where perhaps you two can say you were blocked, might make things interesting. It's not really a waste if we can have even more information, plus it doesn't reveal to town so early that there is a roleblocker. I think that might be something we would want to mask for as long as possible. While true, how do we plan to spin them getting blocked? Do we want Kawlonaut to try to softclaim or something early and then that's why they got blocked?Or just a lucky shot in the dark and not mention it until too late? And if we want to claim it, do we want to bring it up at the start of D2? I mean, it'd buy more town credibility too... but it also might scare away the roleclaims we want. Tough call |
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Post by flameac on Feb 8, 2016 20:59:11 GMT -8
I like the idea of them soft claiming something, can't be specific though, or too obvious. I'd save it perhaps until Day 3, unless something prompts it for Day 2. By Day 3 we should hopefully have a good idea about some other people's roles and so we can string a block of one of us, then some town people. Essentially hide one of our pairs in a group of actual town players.
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Post by kyanrute on Feb 9, 2016 4:35:38 GMT -8
Brainstormy things:
1. Game composition. 12-3? 11-1-3? Adding the neutral doesn’t change the optimal endings at all, it is 3/5 cycles in both cases. If there is a neutral, LOVE doesn’t need to kill them, according to the example role PM. And with the numbers being this small, if there is a neutral, I think their role is somewhat gimmicky: x-shot switcher etc.
2. LOVE roles. Any cop seems silly strong if it ain’t like a 1-shot imo. And again, the numbers game: how many with LOVE and powers? 2-4? Some watcher variant (check if x moved / check if x was visited / check who visited x), a blocker, maybe a commuter? Doc too would be a x-shot. Watcher-type roles feel like the perfect roles to screw us over, so something like that probably is in the game.
3. Our roles. Coppa and Flame for initial kills I guess, to protect da powers. I like the team block thing. It gives information to us and does not reveal the blocker to LOVE on night one. It wouldn’t even expose Blargokawl having a power role to potential watchers/trackers/perverts, since our trackers would not be moving thanks to our block. But besides this information gathering experiment, I do not think we should throw the blocks around randomly unless the block PM we get back is very informative.
4. Fake claims, while fun to theorycraft, are partially pointless now I feel. They’ll have to fit to the scenario leading to the claim anyway, and predicting that is hard.
5. Soft claims. Do we want to reveal the blocker ourselves on day two? Night one teamblock would not reveal it and possible watchers could only make guesses about our power. Revealing it could give mad LOVEpoints and a towny softclaim to Blargokawl. It would be a choice between a possible surprise block at a critical moment and a LOVEly softclaim behind which to hide. The value of both diminishes as the game goes on; more time means more chances for me and Retroid to get lynched and the earlier the softclaim, the earlier comes the question: why are these fellas with a power role still alive?
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Post by Blargonaut on Feb 9, 2016 7:49:17 GMT -8
I have a plan
Kawl
We will roleplay as Team Rocket
Once the game starts, just follow my lead
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Post by Blargonaut on Feb 9, 2016 7:50:28 GMT -8
Please talk me out of this
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Post by Kawl on Feb 9, 2016 7:54:13 GMT -8
Oh no Blarg, there will be no talking out of it. There is only preparing for trouble.
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Burbeting
Vice Admin
Bear of Love
The obligatory (gay) bear of the society!
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Post by Burbeting on Feb 9, 2016 7:56:58 GMT -8
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Post by Kawl on Feb 9, 2016 8:01:57 GMT -8
Just how weab do you think we are Burb?
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Burbeting
Vice Admin
Bear of Love
The obligatory (gay) bear of the society!
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Post by Burbeting on Feb 9, 2016 8:07:45 GMT -8
Well, you know, sometimes resemblances are uncanny.   |
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Post by Sorian on Feb 9, 2016 8:10:48 GMT -8
Well, you know, sometimes resemblances are uncanny. What is seen can never be unseen. |
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Post by Coppanuva on Feb 9, 2016 8:19:14 GMT -8
Oh no Blarg, there will be no talking out of it. There is only preparing for trouble. ...Team Kawlonaut is going to be amazing. I am already looking forward to this. |
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Post by Coppanuva on Feb 9, 2016 8:21:10 GMT -8
Flame do you want a rebrand? I won't be offended, we can come up with some insane team gimmick too! It's not too late!
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Post by Coppanuva on Feb 9, 2016 8:41:33 GMT -8
Flame do you want a rebrand? I won't be offended, we can come up with some insane team gimmick too! It's not too late! Some Possible ideas I came up with (yes I'm this bored at work): Red and Green M&M (The sweetest couple on the block) Tristan and Tea from Yugioh (One of us talks about friendship and love and the other just mutters on and on about their sister while typing with a Brooklyn accent) Romeo and Juliet (bringing literary know-how to GAFia! Alternatively: Dante and Beatrice) Master Chief and Cortana Mario and Peach Bruce Wayne and Talia Al'Ghul Victor Fries and Nora Tim Burton and Johnny Depp |
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Post by Kawl on Feb 9, 2016 8:45:40 GMT -8
Edmond Dantes & Mercedes
or more aptly in my opinion
Edmond Dantes & Albert
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Post by Coppanuva on Feb 9, 2016 8:56:39 GMT -8
Edmond Dantes & Mercedes or more aptly in my opinion Edmond Dantes & Albert Ooooohhhh nice! We could go meta and do Tim and Blarg |
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Post by flameac on Feb 9, 2016 9:05:55 GMT -8
I would say we could do the Yugioh one to coincide with Kawl/Blarg's Team Rocket, just need Retroid/kyanrute to be someone from Digimon/Beyblade. Might be a little on the nose though for us to all do that.
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Post by Coppanuva on Feb 9, 2016 9:54:54 GMT -8
Yeah it might be on the nose, but it's also insane and stupid enough that I don't think Town would believe it.
Also I'm really hoping Splintbot goes after Boo Boo'n super early. He does seem eager to jump the gun there <_<
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Post by Kawl on Feb 9, 2016 10:51:16 GMT -8
All these people demanding pictures of me and blargs chat. Gotta come up with a joke photoshop to give them.
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Post by Kawl on Feb 9, 2016 13:10:43 GMT -8
I would say we could do the Yugioh one to coincide with Kawl/Blarg's Team Rocket, just need Retroid/kyanrute to be someone from Digimon/Beyblade. Might be a little on the nose though for us to all do that. I think all of us roleplaying particular couples might be suspicious enough, all roleplaying couples on a particular theme just seems to be asking for trouble. |
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(No not really 
). I'm thinking we could claim a BP type role, not sure what the title would be. Jealous couple? Guarded couple? Paranoid?
