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Post by Gorlak on Oct 27, 2015 11:53:38 GMT -8
I think i blow the bombs tomorrow night to kill pop and maybe gorlak. If they both dispose of it, we at least role blocked pop for a night. My question was: Are you the double agent? ;)
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Post by palmer on Oct 27, 2015 11:59:48 GMT -8
I think i blow the bombs tomorrow night to kill pop and maybe gorlak. If they both dispose of it, we at least role blocked pop for a night. My question was: Are you the double agent?  Oooh. Nope! Defiinitely just ordinary town here. 
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Post by Lone_Prodigy on Oct 27, 2015 13:12:15 GMT -8
Sorian was roleblocker, not watcher. Hmm.
Detonate tonight if Palmer lives.
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Post by Gorlak on Oct 27, 2015 13:21:55 GMT -8
Why has he seen you? He followed you and saw your real action?
From your point of view you targeted Kalor, but through my action you targeted Sorian? Thus he saw you killing him?
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Post by Lone_Prodigy on Oct 27, 2015 13:23:02 GMT -8
Darn, Pop tracked me. So much for my last-minute vote on Scrafty.
1. Claim watcher. Or 2. Claim Liquid, with night action to search for Solid Snake? Or 3. Claim no night action, Pop is lying and got a PR (Sorian) killed.
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Post by Lone_Prodigy on Oct 27, 2015 13:24:27 GMT -8
Switcher swaps targets. If you swapped me and someone Pop would've tracked them instead.
Could claim as the doll person.
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Post by Gorlak on Oct 27, 2015 13:41:50 GMT -8
You stated you'd go for Sorian, but don't want a tie. Bring this up later.
1. could be The End (yet another sniper) 2. Does sound good, but you need a reason why Liquid searches for Solid. And a plausible N1 target 3. Will likely get you killed, you are the accused and have to be lynched to get info of pop? I don't know. If there would be enough people suspicious of pop. who knows.
I think you have time to claim, you are low frequency.
Palmer thoughts?
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Post by Gorlak on Oct 27, 2015 13:53:40 GMT -8
Gnah, I shouldn't have mentioned the dolls and Splinter again. Sorian dead, Splinter and me suspicious. Splinter got a doll with pop. I reacted both times the doll were brought up... Leaving me suspicious.
After L_P, I'm next.
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Post by Lone_Prodigy on Oct 27, 2015 13:53:43 GMT -8
The problem with claiming watcher is that I'd need to out the "real" killer.
I'm Liquid Snake, a one-shot vig aligned with Foxhound. If I shoot Solid Snake, I win even if the town loses. Every night, instead of shooting, I check to see if he's Snake with the command SNAKESNAKESNAKE: <target>
Night 1 I checked Coppa and got a negative result. Night 2 I was checking Sorian.
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Post by Gorlak on Oct 27, 2015 14:04:22 GMT -8
Yeah, watcher would make you the ideal lynch candidate. If you're telling the truth, the real killer and pop will depend on it, so you have to die first. --- Are you 1-shot if you can fire every night? Also "SNAKESNAKESNAKE" sounds absurde, but my command is TROLLFACE KOJIMA so who knows?
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Post by Lone_Prodigy on Oct 27, 2015 14:16:49 GMT -8
1 shot means I get 1 shot all game. I have a bullet with Solid Snake's name on it. If Snake is lynched I can still use it to hit scum.
I don't know if that flavour is very MGS-like. I'm open to changing the command haha.
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Post by Gorlak on Oct 27, 2015 14:30:12 GMT -8
Hyper said this: "It may be that all 3 split themselves equally, or 2 of them are hiding together." It was in the heat of the moment, but how would he assume we are definitely 3 and then going to name all three of us?
Besides why is he acting so weirdly now? Does he try to fool somebody with these false facts? Or is he just not paying attention?
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Post by palmer on Oct 27, 2015 15:59:12 GMT -8
You can't claim switcher cause he'd see you target two people. Watcher seems POSSIBLE, but they will likely lynch you to verify. Honestly there's no way you survive this unless town foes full retard.
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Post by palmer on Oct 27, 2015 16:00:54 GMT -8
You could try to claim doctor. Be great if it outed the real doctor.
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Post by palmer on Oct 27, 2015 16:02:20 GMT -8
Yeah, I would try Doctor, and hope people believe there's a strongman or switcher.
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Post by palmer on Oct 27, 2015 16:06:23 GMT -8
Actually that doesn't work. If you were switched, you would have been spotted targeting someone else, or would have protected Sorian. I guess Watcher might be okay to claim in this situation instead, but then who did you see? They'll lynch you and the people you named get WIFOM'd which goes nowhere.
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Post by Lone_Prodigy on Oct 27, 2015 20:13:34 GMT -8
Yeah I don't see how I'm going to survive this. Pop got lucky. It happens. Expect a lot of scrutiny around my previous posts.
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Post by palmer on Oct 27, 2015 20:29:15 GMT -8
Hopefully not much comes up from it. I cant remember aligning with you on anything since it was never needed. Same for gorlak hopefully.
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Post by palmer on Oct 28, 2015 5:29:29 GMT -8
Ouro, im fairly certain splinter still has his doll, but if he asked you to verify that, would you tell him?
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Post by Ourobolus on Oct 28, 2015 5:31:47 GMT -8
Yes.
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Post by palmer on Oct 28, 2015 6:45:08 GMT -8
Another question. Since switcher is usually first, could gorlak safely swap gc if he used his alleged veteran action? It seems like it should work based on the timing.
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Post by Ourobolus on Oct 28, 2015 6:59:34 GMT -8
Switcher is -technically- usually first, but it still occurs after most self-targeting actions (i.e. veteran, self-targeting doctor, etc.)
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Post by palmer on Oct 28, 2015 7:13:54 GMT -8
Really? I could see the vet argument but shouldnt a doctors priority remain the same regardless of who they target?
This is one of those things i wish gaf had standardized so we always know for sure. Not your fault, but i may bring it up before the next round of games. Its sort of like how some people interpret tracker and watxher powers differently game to game
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Post by palmer on Oct 28, 2015 7:15:01 GMT -8
And you said disposal is an action. So a tracker would see gorlak target gorlak in that case?
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Post by Ourobolus on Oct 28, 2015 7:23:53 GMT -8
Oh, good point about a self-target for a doctor. disregard that. And yes, disposal is an action, so they would see someone "visit" themselves.
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Post by palmer on Oct 28, 2015 8:12:39 GMT -8
How many random ass semi-plausible theories can i throw at them? Sadly id be doing the exact same thing if I was town. Ill never understand why they thought I was suspicious in Election game. Idiots 
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Post by Lone_Prodigy on Oct 28, 2015 8:21:53 GMT -8
What's the plan for tonight?
Palmer detonates/dolls Gorlak kills
Or
Palmer kills Gorlak switches
A switch-kill to get Pop?
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Post by Gorlak on Oct 28, 2015 8:36:24 GMT -8
Detonate and kill.
Pop either dies or gets blocked.
(Not accounting a doctor protecting him :/)
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Post by palmer on Oct 28, 2015 11:05:48 GMT -8
If you are alive still, we switch kill pop and doll someone.
Nice claim! Town will believe any goddamned thing. Btw, in case i die, i have a funny feeling coppa is doc. Hes probably my doll target.
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Post by palmer on Oct 28, 2015 11:36:20 GMT -8
What in the holy fuck is happening.
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