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Post by Coppanuva on Mar 21, 2016 17:28:32 GMT -8
Or maybe Zipped will go the opposite direction and that might be game for Kyan/Ret possibly. : | Why the Sophia? You can admit you're rooting for scum! We're the loveable team anyhow.
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Post by Sophia on Mar 21, 2016 17:37:38 GMT -8
Or maybe Zipped will go the opposite direction and that might be game for Kyan/Ret possibly. : | Why the Sophia? You can admit you're rooting for scum! We're the loveable team anyhow. I just don't want Kark and Zipped to win, because I'm mean like that. Also, I was a townie, gotta stick with my partner at least!
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Post by Coppanuva on Mar 21, 2016 17:40:02 GMT -8
Why the Sophia? You can admit you're rooting for scum! We're the loveable team anyhow. I just don't want Kark and Zipped to win, because I'm mean like that. Also, I was a townie, gotta stick with my partner at least! Yeah nobody wants karked to win.
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Post by Kawl on Mar 21, 2016 17:46:04 GMT -8
Can we make even referencing PM's concerning actions and roles against the rules from now on? The spirit of the rule is to prevent quoting of a message to give your claim more credence right? Which is what saying certain words and where they appeared in the message is doing right? I mean, that just doesn't really seem like fair play.
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Post by Sophia on Mar 21, 2016 17:46:16 GMT -8
I just don't want Kark and Zipped to win, because I'm mean like that. Also, I was a townie, gotta stick with my partner at least! Yeah nobody wants karked to win. It's the dilemma of the ages. Do I root for scum because Kyan is playing awesome? Do I root for scum because Kark and Zipped are silly? Or do I root for town because Ty4on is awesome?
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Post by Coppanuva on Mar 21, 2016 17:56:48 GMT -8
Can we make even referencing PM's concerning actions and roles against the rules from now on? The spirit of the rule is to prevent quoting of a message to give your claim more credence right? Which is what saying certain words and where they appeared in the message is doing right? I mean, that just doesn't really seem like fair play. Yeah this game has seemed to be even more meta than most. That line of logic is also total bs since scum could never even receive that pm had they targeted us.
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Post by crimsonfist on Mar 21, 2016 18:06:40 GMT -8
Root for scum, because they've pulled the least bad unnecessary gambits.
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Post by crimsonfist on Mar 21, 2016 18:17:47 GMT -8
The Announcement message should probably have been provided to scum if they were targeted, or posted alongside Bats' flip.
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Post by Hyperactivity on Mar 21, 2016 19:30:11 GMT -8
Can we make even referencing PM's concerning actions and roles against the rules from now on? The spirit of the rule is to prevent quoting of a message to give your claim more credence right? Which is what saying certain words and where they appeared in the message is doing right? I mean, that just doesn't really seem like fair play. Yeah I know Reminds of the bullshit Christina_Mackenzie's code was like to GOAT Scum in Harry Potter. Just end it now, Zipped should be made to stop
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Post by flameac on Mar 21, 2016 19:35:54 GMT -8
Kark and Zip's chat is ridiculous. Hard to watch play like that. So much meta reasoning.
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Post by Hyperactivity on Mar 21, 2016 19:42:48 GMT -8
This also why imo flavor should be left for the day beginnings and day ends, and no funny business like Zatoth hinting at two scum teams and an elder god every night. When you kick people out of the chat, you say "you cannot use the chat until tomorrow". When someone is roleblocked, you say "your command failed". Etc.
That, or you tell people what to expect. Harry Potter night 1 was pretty bad because we had no clue about our targets getting informed of what happened to them. That was particularly egregious example, but I've felt like I should know what my own PM would result in beforehand
And what's worse, is random flavor bs messes with fake claims. I admit my cop claim was total bs which could've been called (I'm not just talking about myself here), but in general, there's too much that can be confirmed with flavor when it comes to who has a specific role. The fake claims will always have a little less flavor, and in games that require fake names, you still have to do research into that character to learn what they did.
Flavor is such stupid bullshit to get caught on. If mods don't stop it, they should intervene anytime it's made into an issue
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Post by Sophia on Mar 21, 2016 20:10:40 GMT -8
I'm not even really sure where they're trying to go with it. They basically got full confirmation from UltraJay. Looking into the flavor like that just seems a bit disrespectful...?
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Post by flameac on Mar 21, 2016 20:17:45 GMT -8
Poor Kark, he's spot on about what happened on Night 3 with the bombers and Launch.
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Post by flameac on Mar 21, 2016 20:22:36 GMT -8
I don't get why they don't see why people wouldn't immediately go after Batsnacks at the start of Day 4. Their end of Day 3 was very odd and the neutral claim had to be addressed. That wasn't me trying to hide scummish behavior, just trying to find out what he was and get a lynch going on them.
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Post by flameac on Mar 21, 2016 20:30:19 GMT -8
And now it's "Scum wouldn't leave a game."
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Post by Pop-O-Matic on Mar 21, 2016 20:33:13 GMT -8
If they seriously go No Lynch, Burb should do a turbo night like Sorian in Ace Attorney. Scum are pretty much the only ones left who can do anything at night anyway.
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Post by flameac on Mar 21, 2016 20:52:31 GMT -8
Ideally, yeah. But I don't know if Kyan/Burb sync up usually.
Also:
"I mean they are pretty good scum hunters, they could have found that if it was bread crumbed..."
Thanks for the compliment Zip!
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Post by Hyperactivity on Mar 21, 2016 21:02:02 GMT -8
No lynch here makes sense, especially if scum is Kyranroid
1) Killing KarkHead -Kyranroid left with the two teams that are suspicious of them
2) Killing Ty4odobo -Left with the team that thinks UltraJay is town
3) Killing UltraJay -Best option, but only the best option for a scum KarkHead or KyanRoid.
-The best move as scum Ty4odobo to do would be to kill KarkHead and align with one of the remaining pairs, probably ultra -Any move is best move for scum KarkHead -Best move of a scum UltraJay would be to kill Ty4odobo, leaving KyanRoid to be lynched next day
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Post by Pop-O-Matic on Mar 21, 2016 21:07:00 GMT -8
No lynch here makes sense, especiall if scum is Kyranroid 1) Killing KarkHead I'd probably kill Hobo4on instead. Feel like it'd be easier to convince UltraJay that KarkHead is scum considering all the metagaming and #unnecessarygambiting
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Post by flameac on Mar 21, 2016 21:10:34 GMT -8
Then what happens if Kyan wises up and doesn't kill anyone?
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Post by Hyperactivity on Mar 21, 2016 21:11:44 GMT -8
No lynch here makes sense, especiall if scum is Kyranroid 1) Killing KarkHead I'd probably kill Hobo4on instead. Feel like it'd be easier to convince UltraJay that KarkHead is scum considering all the metagaming and #unnecessarygambiting Accidentally posted early The best move for a no lynch is a no kill, but it immediately eliminates all bullshit regarding a team that had multiple good kill options (namely KarkHead, but also UltraJay)
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Post by Hyperactivity on Mar 21, 2016 21:13:56 GMT -8
So a no kill night would bring it down to a GUARANTEED thunderdome between KyanRoid and Ty4odobo the next day. It's better than any other spot for scum team, but they would still rather have more uncertainty, like with today
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Post by flameac on Mar 21, 2016 21:59:37 GMT -8
What is Kark meaning by saying Ultra/BooBoo is the safest option.
Now they're moving on to Ty4on? Never going to get to Kyan thankfully I suppose.
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Post by Burbeting on Mar 22, 2016 0:38:16 GMT -8
The thing is, if Scum were targeted, they would have been given the same post as what the town had received on chatblock. However, batsmagnum only targeted town.
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Post by Burbeting on Mar 22, 2016 0:40:33 GMT -8
The meta line of reasoning is uncool, but scum would have been given plenty of tools to fake chatblock, if they would have been targeted. In this case, batsmagnum never targeted scum, which is benefiting the town hugely.
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Post by cabot on Mar 22, 2016 0:42:49 GMT -8
i mean it was between camjo and kyan yesterday, what happened.
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Post by dusksoldier on Mar 22, 2016 1:47:46 GMT -8
I should have pushed harder for that kyantroid lynch. I didn't think they would get this distracted.
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Post by Camjo-Z on Mar 22, 2016 6:56:12 GMT -8
i love metagaming *snaps own neck*
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Post by Coppanuva on Mar 22, 2016 7:12:46 GMT -8
The meta line of reasoning is uncool, but scum would have been given plenty of tools to fake chatblock, if they would have been targeted. In this case, batsmagnum never targeted scum, which is benefiting the town hugely. Oh ok, that makes it a bit less unfair in my eyes then. Just the way the cards fell sucked for us I guess.
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Post by Burbeting on Mar 22, 2016 7:17:41 GMT -8
If BatsMagnum had hit scum, this would have happened:
- Block would have failed, obviously. - Scum would have been told which one of the scum pairs were targeted - They would have been told the identity and the win condition of the Neutral Couple - Scum would have also got the example PM of what town pairs receive if they are chat blocked.
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