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Post by Blargonaut on Jan 12, 2016 15:43:55 GMT -8
Not really because Roy has posted in the afterlife and rid hasn't. True, the Afterlife players will instantly know that ridli is lying, and once he gets to the Afterlife, he'll likely be destroyed BUT, rather than making up an excuse for why he hasn't posted in the Afterlife thread like roy has - simply, DON'T. ridli, simply don't make up an excuse for not posting in the Afterlife thread, because no one else living on the Island can prove that, UNLESS roy confronts you on this -> THIS IS WHAT WE WANT, ROY DRAWS ATTENTION TO HIMSELF, BECAUSE TOWN WILL BE THINKING HOW/WHY IS ROY FIGHTING RIDLI ON THIS ROY WOULD HAVE MADE ROY LOOK LIKE ROY WAS HIDING SOMETHING ALL ALONG LIVING ROY DRAWS AGGRO FROM ISLANDERS NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS TO RIDLI ROY'S POWER WILL HAVE BEEN DEFILED AND THEN ROY DIES IN 3 DAYS ANYWAY --- THE COPY-CATTHE METHOD: 1. ridli Role-claims in the Island/Life thread, using roy's stolen identity 2a. Town TURBOS ridli -or- 2b. Town hesitates, giving time for roy to say his identity was stolen, leading to a hot debate between roy and ridli 3a. ridli gets lynched -or- 3b. ridli somehow survives the debate and scrutiny, continue life on The Island 4aa. ridli's alignment is revealed upon flip -> has an unavoidable Bad time in the Afterlife -or- 4ab. ridli's alignment is NOT revealed upon flip -> can continue being scum in the Afterlife, with his newfound power, albeit under immense scrutiny because of his claim and likely a 2nd lynching in the Afterlife thread (we can invent more BS in his defense, at this point) -or- 4bb. The Afterlife players choose to NK ridli, leading to 4aa or 4ab
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Post by Blargonaut on Jan 12, 2016 15:49:26 GMT -8
!!! BREAKING NEWSroytheone claimed in the Afterlife thread: - He is a Town-aligned Medium/Miller Role (can chat in both Life and Afterlife thread, shows up as scum when investigated) - He was Ordinary on D1, but was "visited by the Volcano God" on N1, and given a choice: accept to become a Medium/Miller who will die in 3 Days (so at the end of D4/D12), or refuse, in which case the privilege would be offered to another player the next Night - he accepted, that goes without saying - apparently, he'll still enter the Afterlife upon death roy stated that he's able to tell the Island/Life thread EVERYTHING about the Afterlife He's allowed to reveal its existence He's allowed to copy text directly He's allowed to explain the voting He's allowed to share any flipped Role results or claims made in the Afterlife thread, to the living players! um, Splint... our scum factional kill is only targetable on Afterlife players, not Island; so, how does roy fit in to this? Since he's in both threads, are we able to target him with our NK? roy stated that he intends to claim Today, and probably reveal the Afterlife's existence reposting for new page, for ridli's Role-claim convenience
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Post by ridli on Jan 12, 2016 15:57:55 GMT -8
None of that seems worth outing that we can communicate. Indont see town buying it now at all. Czartim is he one who should donit if anyone is
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Post by ridli on Jan 12, 2016 15:58:35 GMT -8
Basically im pretty sure ill still get lynched even with that claim today.
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Post by ridli on Jan 12, 2016 16:05:18 GMT -8
I could post about being offered it but skipping it.
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Post by ridli on Jan 12, 2016 16:12:24 GMT -8
Im winging it
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Post by Coppanuva on Jan 12, 2016 16:12:26 GMT -8
I could post about being offered it but skipping it. I wouldn't. It gives more credibility to Roy when he claims it. Also, when would you have been offered it? There's only been the 1 night phase and he'd just say it would have moved on the next night. It also has a lot of conflict with your portrayal of frustration at being an ordinary villager, such as why wouldn't you jump at the chance to have a power. I think it's either full claim to counter him or nothing.
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Post by Blargonaut on Jan 12, 2016 16:12:35 GMT -8
ridli, what do you think? Should you do this?
Because...
COUNTER-POINT TO MY OWN STRATEGY...?:
Right now, in the Afterlife thread, the hot topic is discussing how to best use roy's cross-thread access for scum-hunting; they've come to the conclusion that since roy's a Miller, the Afterlife players will provide him with a list of which living Islanders they will BESTOW their x-shots to Tonight, for him to include in his reveal post. They hope this will grant roy some more credibility once he Role-claims, to soften his Miller status to the Islanders' eyes (as, the bestowees after Tonight, will be able to corroborate roy after he points them out in his reveal).
This strat of theirs delays roy's claim; he'll have to wait until Tomorrow to claim, as he'll have to wait as the Afterlife players will BESTOW their stuff to the Islanders this coming Night, and only then can he incorporate this upcoming list into his Role-claim.
Knowing this list is coming; should ridli still pre-empt roy's claim by stealing it and posting it first?
Or is a list of living Islanders who received the x-shots from the Afterlifers, more valuable than ridli dumping a huge-ass mindgame on both threads simultaneously?
Keep in mind that our NK kills Afterlifers, not Islanders.
BUT, knowing who has the x-shots, allows Lone_Prodigy to basically go shopping each Night.
THEREFORE THEREFORE THEREFORE
IF RIDLI CLAIMS, I DOUBT THE AFTERLIFERS WILL EVER PROVIDE THE LIST, BECAUSE THEY'LL WITHHOLD IT ONCE THEY SEE THE AFTERLIFE THREAD HAS BEEN SO OBVIOUSLY COMPROMISED
THEREFORE, RIDLI, I THINK IT'S BEST TO WAIT FOR THE LIST
DO NOT CLAIM DO NOT CLAIM DO NOT CLAIM DO NOT EXECUTE MY PRE-EMPT STRAT
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Post by ridli on Jan 12, 2016 16:13:37 GMT -8
Im already winging it, sorry. Too late!
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Post by ridli on Jan 12, 2016 16:14:31 GMT -8
Night zero i was offered miller medium but passed
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Post by Coppanuva on Jan 12, 2016 16:14:52 GMT -8
Oh god this might be too late... Ridli nooooooooooooooo!
Also can I just say how much I enjoy your strategy posts?
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Post by CzarTim on Jan 12, 2016 16:15:19 GMT -8
oh boy lol
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Post by ridli on Jan 12, 2016 16:15:53 GMT -8
Mine or blargs? Im fucking terrible this game. The day 1 bullshit screwed me up badly.
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Post by ridli on Jan 12, 2016 16:17:24 GMT -8
Pros of my plan is if it works it explains why i never posted in dead thread. It adds zero risk to my flip. Afterlife doesnt know for sure if i was offered it or not.
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Post by ridli on Jan 12, 2016 16:18:09 GMT -8
Also potentially forced an earlier roy claim to mess up their plan, again without proving we have dead scum that can talk to us
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Post by ridli on Jan 12, 2016 16:18:48 GMT -8
I see no con to trying it this way, other than it might not work as well. But im lazy
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Post by CzarTim on Jan 12, 2016 16:18:59 GMT -8
the ol' fuck it gambit
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Post by Coppanuva on Jan 12, 2016 16:19:41 GMT -8
Pros of my plan is if it works it explains why i never posted in dead thread. It adds zero risk to my flip. Afterlife doesnt know for sure if i was offered it or not. Fair point. We'll see how this shakes out. I really wish we had more time to strategize (or actually communicate D1), this being dropped on us N1 really frazzled this whole thing. I meant Blarg's strategy posts, but yeah this has not been one of my finer games either. "Subbing" in is hard, especially when it's as insane as this game.
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Post by CzarTim on Jan 12, 2016 16:21:38 GMT -8
Pros of my plan is if it works it explains why i never posted in dead thread. It adds zero risk to my flip. Afterlife doesnt know for sure if i was offered it or not. Fair point. We'll see how this shakes out. I really wish we had more time to strategize (or actually communicate D1), this being dropped on us N1 really frazzled this whole thing. I meant Blarg's strategy posts, but yeah this has not been one of my finer games either. "Subbing" in is hard, especially when it's as insane as this game. We all kind of blew it, no worries. I don't think this is dire for us or anything, we're just not really comfortable. We can still win.
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Post by Blargonaut on Jan 12, 2016 16:28:30 GMT -8
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Post by Blargonaut on Jan 12, 2016 16:29:53 GMT -8
Fuck it
Go for it
full identity theft, but Night Zero
I want to savour all the little emotions
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Post by CzarTim on Jan 12, 2016 16:35:34 GMT -8
God if he doesn't flip, this will be glorious.
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Post by Blargonaut on Jan 12, 2016 16:39:42 GMT -8
REACTIONS TO ridli's claim FROM THE AFTERLIFE (so far)
Sawneeks: 'I hope ridli's not talking about outing roy...' karu: 'Is he saying he turned down the power? How could he know about this? Is he lying?' karu: 'It has to be roy's power, as he mentions clearing up confusion. It'd be interesting to see anyone else claim. This means that ridli's likely Town though, hmm...' Sawneeks: 'Can scum be offered the Medium Role? Dunno. But it looks like ridli had turned it down. Hopefully, Island doesn't TURBO ridli before roy comes back, because roy claiming right now would clear ridli, who looks Town, and give roy a chance.' karu: 'It's likely scum can be.' karu: 'And there it is. So, now what? roy's sleeping' (cont.)
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Post by ridli on Jan 12, 2016 16:40:20 GMT -8
I feel like thats a pretty solid claim considering my position.
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Post by Blargonaut on Jan 12, 2016 16:41:32 GMT -8
*'And there it is' probably refers to karu seeing ridli's recent claim post, not a scum inference
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Post by Coppanuva on Jan 12, 2016 16:47:31 GMT -8
Oh man this is good if they think it makes him more town. I was thinking they'd likely call his bluff, but this definitely helps our survival in the afterlife more if we can play it well (If you can survive til Roy comes back then maybe you won't even get there Ridli!)
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Post by ridli on Jan 12, 2016 16:49:53 GMT -8
I can sell some grade A bullshit. Blsrg and lp, did roy get the role pm i fo before he accepted? I feel like passing would mean i have less info than roy now has about the role
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Post by Blargonaut on Jan 12, 2016 16:52:29 GMT -8
(cont.)Sawneeks: 'roy, does your PM mention what happens when you die? Does the Medium Role die with you, or is it handed off to someone again? I think there's a slim chance it's granted to scum, and scum wouldn't likely accept the Role anyway. For one thing, it transforms you into a Miller (which ridli can confirm if he mentions that) and you also die in 3 Days, which scum can't afford to do. I'm think it's Town only.' BUT BUT BUT Remember ridli, you said you DECLINED it, so someone on The Island can use that against you, if they come to the same conclusions as Sawneeks here
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Post by Blargonaut on Jan 12, 2016 16:55:13 GMT -8
I can sell some grade A bullshit. Blsrg and lp, did roy get the role pm i fo before he accepted? I feel like passing would mean i have less info than roy now has about the role Not sure what you mean, sry; what Role PM are you referring to?
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Post by ridli on Jan 12, 2016 16:59:55 GMT -8
Did roy get to see the full role abilities before accepting?
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