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Post by Roytheone on Jan 13, 2016 12:06:12 GMT -8
Let's hope I don't get dragged into the podium
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Post by Sawneeks on Jan 13, 2016 12:06:15 GMT -8
For Kalor: Well, with the recent developments with Roy being able to post here I'm more inclined to believe that he is town now. Being able to view and post in this thread would be a weird scum power though it could be neutral. I've been split on Sorian but at this point I'm inclined to believe that he might be acting in town's interest. Scrafty I still think is town but I would need to look at her posts again. Nin hasn't stuck out much to me but the way he's responded to some stuff has been odd. For the bolded: how so? He is tunneling pretty hard on easy lynches and has hand-waved away multiple discussions without giving concrete explanations. I've seen little-to-no pro-town actions from him today. I do agree with you on Nin though. I have not played with him before but his actions are very strange. Stilll not moving from Kalor, at least not until I get my question answered. No worries Pop! Good luck with school! Might want to explain your vote more, I'm not seeing the 'obvious scum behavior' here. Said this before - Swamped is giving a vibe of explicitly trying to look town, get in people's good books, etc. Hmm, yeah I can kind of see that. That just kind of feels like Town!Swamped to me, her Scum persona is much more involved and wouldn't be trying so hard. We're killing Sorian tonight, right? Dude is so full of shit it hurts Haven't fully decided yet as to what we're doing. I mean, I feel like my choice is obvious ( coughScraftycough ) but I know it's not the popular choice so we can discuss who and why once the Day ends.
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Post by Lone_Prodigy on Jan 13, 2016 12:08:03 GMT -8
Top Island scum:
Trigger Terra nin Sorian
Haven't seen much from the first three. Sorian might be neutral.
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Post by Sawneeks on Jan 13, 2016 12:10:33 GMT -8
I'm not really sure why that one quote changed to Kalor but for the Swamped discussion I was answering Hyper.
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Post by Sawneeks on Jan 13, 2016 12:11:06 GMT -8
Top Island scum: Trigger Terra nin Sorian Haven't seen much from the first three. Sorian might be neutral. Read on Scrafty, Ridli, and Xam please.
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Post by Roytheone on Jan 13, 2016 12:14:21 GMT -8
Top Island scum: Trigger Terra nin Sorian Haven't seen much from the first three. Sorian might be neutral. Read on Scrafty, Ridli, and Xam please. Don't you think it will be more useful if LP concentrates on the vote currently on hand for you guys?
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Post by Lone_Prodigy on Jan 13, 2016 12:16:27 GMT -8
Not much here in Afterlife to get any reads. Speculating about roles, votes, and then commenting on the Island thread is as safe as you can get.
Vote: Pop-o-matic
I hate to do this but a replacement would be probably too late to perform a night action.
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Post by zippedpinhead on Jan 13, 2016 12:16:57 GMT -8
We're killing Sorian tonight, right? Dude is so full of shit it hurts I'm kind of afraid of Sorian coming to our thread. I think he reads neutral, especially since his death and time stamps here are so weird. But he is such a lightning rod I would be afraid he would dominate our discussions of others. So that's why I don't think we should kill him tonight. I am afraid that he would distract us WAY too much AND I think he will likely get lynched tomorrow anyway. now killing a czartim or Terrabyte20xx. I could get behind those from a "we need people who are pretty good at scum finding but also were kinda shady so they might be scum". Triggergaf feels like he could be scum, he kinda bandwagonned Ridli and didn't really put up a defense. We also need to think about who we are going to bestow stuff on. Six is majority today. I'm pretty sure we don't have a ton of scum in the afterlife yet, but I think this flip may help me out. vote: Loneprodigy
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Post by Splinter on Jan 13, 2016 12:19:54 GMT -8
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Post by zippedpinhead on Jan 13, 2016 12:20:13 GMT -8
I am not as sold on the Scrafty= Scum vibe that others have. Maybe its because the day 1 lynch came down to the two of us. I just think scum wouldn't have even let a teammate of theirs get close on day one *metagame time* especially after woof 1, scum has to be leery of that.
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Post by karu on Jan 13, 2016 12:20:20 GMT -8
It sure is a convienient and safe way to play for you, yes. Normal Day One isn't any different and we still have to make the best of it to get reads later on. Pop-Vote reads more like "whatever". Fair enough.
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Post by Splinter on Jan 13, 2016 12:20:36 GMT -8
Bad timing on that, +1 to LP, Pop still at 1
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Post by Splinter on Jan 13, 2016 12:22:41 GMT -8
Effective immediately, Pop will be replaced by Never Forever
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Post by Lone_Prodigy on Jan 13, 2016 12:24:29 GMT -8
It sure is a convienient and safe way to play for you, yes. Normal Day One isn't any different and we still have to make the best of it to get reads later on. Pop-Vote reads more like "whatever". Fair enough. I don't like parroting what others have already said. I'll post a summary and leave it at that. If you want to vote me out, I don't blame you. But if you don't, I'll be contributing and posting here tomorrow.
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Post by Kalor on Jan 13, 2016 12:25:41 GMT -8
For Kalor: For the bolded: how so? He is tunneling pretty hard on easy lynches and has hand-waved away multiple discussions without giving concrete explanations. I've seen little-to-no pro-town actions from him today. I do agree with you on Nin though. I have not played with him before but his actions are very strange. I was writing that from memory and that was mostly what I remembered from D1 as I had only briefly read over D2 at that time. Reading D2 properly I'm willing to go back on what I said and say that now I don't think Sorian is acting in towns interest. I had been skim reading the start of day 2 but recently I've had time to read the thread properly and my opinion on Sorian has shifted a lot. Just his general attitude comes across as very aggressive and is a shift compared to his attitude during the first day. That recruitment theory that someone had could very well be true. I don't know if he is scum since he is playing so aggressively but he is likely a neutral. I don't know if town would get whatever Sorian's role is and then a medium as well.
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Post by Sawneeks on Jan 13, 2016 12:26:51 GMT -8
Read on Scrafty, Ridli, and Xam please. Don't you think it will be more useful if LP concentrates on the vote currently on hand for you guys? This is for the vote at hand. I'm using activity from both this thread and the main one and I want to know L_P's thoughts on certain players in order to get a better grasp on my thoughts about him. Not much here in Afterlife to get any reads. Speculating about roles, votes, and then commenting on the Island thread is as safe as you can get. Vote: Pop-o-matic I hate to do this but a replacement would be probably too late to perform a night action. Hmmmm no, I don't agree with this one bit. It's safe as hell and an easy thing for Scum to latch on to. I am not as sold on the Scrafty= Scum vibe that others have. Maybe its because the day 1 lynch came down to the two of us. I just think scum wouldn't have even let a teammate of theirs get close on day one *metagame time* especially after woof 1, scum has to be leery of that. I'll throw out my reasons for why I think she is Scum once the Day ends.
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Post by Roytheone on Jan 13, 2016 12:29:31 GMT -8
Oh yeah, I can now post in this thread during the night. Fun times.
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Post by Blargonaut on Jan 13, 2016 12:29:53 GMT -8
WORKING TITLE PLOT SYNOPSIS INTRO TRAILER:
okay
I was hoping to save these metaphysics as the conclusion to my upcoming exposition, but I believe that the gist of my analysis of our purgatorial predicament will soon be relevant, as we are soon to receive a new member into most our venerable Valhalla; so, I may as well present this piece, in preparation.
THUSLY:
- As the result of the existence of the Afterlife (thread), we must also question the terms of evil as much as we must good - it now begs the question; what is scum's Win condition? How does it work? Town's Win condition in both PM's states that we "must banish all Evil Spirits" to win. So we have to kill each and every scum twice? Once on the Island, and another in here?
- If so, then this raises a BALANCE question; consider that, if ridli's alignment is shown to be scum upon his imminent lynching, then he'll be absolutely fucked up by the Afterlifers INSTANTANEOUSLY upon entering this thread. He'll slip into Oblivion faster than a buttered mudcrab leg. Do you think that this game is designed that way, to allow for this instantaneous extraplanar scum-TURBO?
- Personally, I think YES; because, as soon as a scum-aligned Islander's soul enters our domain of divinities, he'll be entering during our Night phase, during which we can't touch his evil ass! Because, we'd be in the phase of deciding who on the Island is worthy of "ascension" (our Afterlifer NK of an Islander, so to speak). If this is the case, we'd be in the unique position of co-existing with a confirmed scum for 1 phase of conversation, one phase during which we know he/she can do evil things with their newfound power (as I'm assuming scum players will be similarly empowered as us, upon their demise) but we'd be powerless to lynch them before they have a chance to use it, until that next Day dawns. We'd possibly be able to directly combat that scum deity with our own powers, though, in open-battle... all-in-all, quite the unique situation, if I am correct.
- However, consider the NOT, which arises if Island lynchees' alignments are NOT revealed upon being lynched on the Island, as a possible balance mechanic in scum's favour, meant to keep Afterlifers guessing on what newly-arrived Afterlifers' alignments are; in which case, we're playing two games of Mafia at once here, albeit linked by the powers of our divine intervention.
In any case, these questions are to be answered soon, anyway, as the Island's Night draws nearer, and silhouettes hoist a struggling figure up the slope...
{cont.)
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Post by Blargonaut on Jan 13, 2016 12:31:18 GMT -8
yep
That mismatched bracket will haunt me forever
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Post by Sawneeks on Jan 13, 2016 12:31:34 GMT -8
Effective immediately, Pop will be replaced by Never ForeverWelcome! I was writing that from memory and that was mostly what I remembered from D1 as I had only briefly read over D2 at that time. Reading D2 properly I'm willing to go back on what I said and say that now I don't think Sorian is acting in towns interest. I had been skim reading the start of day 2 but recently I've had time to read the thread properly and my opinion on Sorian has shifted a lot. Just his general attitude comes across as very aggressive and is a shift compared to his attitude during the first day. That recruitment theory that someone had could very well be true. I don't know if he is scum since he is playing so aggressively but he is likely a neutral. I don't know if town would get whatever Sorian's role is and then a medium as well. Thank you, that's all I needed. I'm still not completely sure of your alignment but, as of now, I'm not sure enough of your scumminess for a lynch. You aren't off my radar yet though. Vote: Lone_Prodigy
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Post by Lone_Prodigy on Jan 13, 2016 12:34:53 GMT -8
Top Island scum: Trigger Terra nin Sorian Haven't seen much from the first three. Sorian might be neutral. Read on Scrafty, Ridli, and Xam please. Scrafty seems to be coasting, and is focused on nin. Leaning scum. Ridli turned down Roy's role, which seems possible. Can he read Afterlife, or maybe he investigated Roy? Or Roy is scum and gave Ridli his claim? Leaning scum. I don't know how Xam plays, but his posts seem to be all over the place. Could just be his playstyle. Leaning town.
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Post by Sawneeks on Jan 13, 2016 12:35:13 GMT -8
Damn it Corn. Damn. It.
/sigh
Welcome Ridli!
A few things to get you acquainted!
1) This is a Spectator Thread with a twist! We're still playing the game, we still have to catch Scum. You're not free just yet. 2) We can post during the Night Phase here! 3) Please read the OP and it's following posts, they're really important
Other than that, sorry about those bandwagons against you. They were full of garbage. :(
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Post by Sawneeks on Jan 13, 2016 12:36:59 GMT -8
Read on Scrafty, Ridli, and Xam please. Scrafty seems to be coasting, and is focused on nin. Leaning scum. Ridli turned down Roy's role, which seems possible. Can he read Afterlife, or maybe he investigated Roy? Or Roy is scum and gave Ridli his claim? Leaning scum.I don't know how Xam plays, but his posts seem to be all over the place. Could just be his playstyle. Leaning town. Uh, hold on. Was that a read on Roy or a Ridli?
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Post by Lone_Prodigy on Jan 13, 2016 12:37:37 GMT -8
Looks like I'm the first to completely die in this game. Later all.
If there's an after-afterlife I'm going to break something.
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Post by zippedpinhead on Jan 13, 2016 12:37:37 GMT -8
Blarg, I like your thoughts on scum's win condition AND the knowledge of coexisting with potentially a confirmed scum during the night phase.
Now I wasn't able to bestow anyone a power last night. At least I'm pretty sure *checks PM* yep that's what it said. That may change for future days, but at least last night that is what happened.
That being said Ridli is going to be PISSED at Roytheone and potentially us...
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Post by Roytheone on Jan 13, 2016 12:37:44 GMT -8
So we don't get to see flips? Makes sense. Weird we did got zipped his flip though.
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Post by karu on Jan 13, 2016 12:38:07 GMT -8
yep That mismatched bracket will haunt me forever Poor you // In regards to the scum win condition... Mhmm. Probably to get all the Town Players in the Afterlife? That's easier but a counter balance to possible extremely uneven numbers? Or as Soria suggests something with the Spirit Animals, though, I have no idea how they would figure those out/use them to their advantage. Also: i surely hope the Lynch flips, omg.
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Post by Lone_Prodigy on Jan 13, 2016 12:40:20 GMT -8
Oh I posted that read before reading the Island. Guess ridli is town after all.
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Post by zippedpinhead on Jan 13, 2016 12:41:01 GMT -8
Am I the only person so far that was confirmed Town at death on the island?
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Post by Lone_Prodigy on Jan 13, 2016 12:41:12 GMT -8
But wait his alignment was obscured. Possibly not town?
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