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Post by Sorian on Jan 19, 2016 14:25:12 GMT -8
hey guys what's up? I'm a mischievous spirit. Can you give Darryl an atomic wedgie while he's sleeping tonight?
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Post by squidyj on Jan 19, 2016 14:28:19 GMT -8
I wish
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Post by squidyj on Jan 19, 2016 14:34:36 GMT -8
Are there any other Mischievous spirits here?
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Post by squidyj on Jan 19, 2016 14:34:49 GMT -8
that have claimed, I mean.
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Post by Splinter on Jan 19, 2016 14:36:09 GMT -8
Oh I forgot to list your vote targets:
Cabot Coppanuva CornBro CrimsonFist CzarTim Dusk Soldier Mazre Roytheone Scrafty Terrabyte20xx Ty4on Xamtheking Bombay kingkitty
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Post by Sawneeks on Jan 19, 2016 14:36:29 GMT -8
Nin flipping Scum also clears Scrafty for me as well, mainly because I don't think they would go after each other so avidly if both were Scum. Sorry I thought you Scum. :( Keep in mind that bussing up there is a lot different than bussing down here. Dying up there just gives people PRs so it could still be in scum's best interest to purposely get teammates sent down here.
I wonder if they have any clue what they will become on death. Nin being a roleblocker seems a lot stronger than the framing power for this game.
True, but Nin wasn't even in the firing range on Day 2 so Scrafty suddenly coming out of the gate calling for his head seems weird. I won't discount that theory but it just seems unlikely. It's probably tied to the Spirit Animal seeing as both Scum and Town get one. Guys, I know I can't vote, but can I still be part of this team? I want to be part of the best town team ;__; Of course! Seeing dead people makes you an honorary ghost. ;) hey guys what's up? I'm a mischievous spirit. It just started raining over here and it's very nice. :) How are you doing?
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Post by squidyj on Jan 19, 2016 14:39:02 GMT -8
I am saddened that us living folks didn't kill the ghostbuster again. It was a line of action I very much believed in.
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Post by Roytheone on Jan 19, 2016 14:40:11 GMT -8
Are there any other Mischievous spirits here? I would be careful when putting sugar in your coffee squidyj >
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Post by Sorian on Jan 19, 2016 14:42:18 GMT -8
What do you all thinks happen if we kill kingkitty? Our second place person also dies? What if we all just vote KK and no one puts out a stray vote? Just an RNG kill otherwise?
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Post by squidyj on Jan 19, 2016 14:48:13 GMT -8
I don't know what will happen. - He claims to be a ghostbuster, he might be ready for us ghosts. IE some sort of retaliatory action or he might not even die to our vote - this might be the way to get rid of him.
I'm more inclined to think that whatever effect would arise from us 'haunting'? him, it would be different from the effect that would be caused by the living throwing him in a volcano
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Post by Sorian on Jan 19, 2016 14:50:47 GMT -8
I'm just confused of the flavor reasoning behind them murdering a dude by throwing him into a volcano and then the same dude just shows back up the next day good as new. Is this a sitcom?
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Post by squidyj on Jan 19, 2016 14:52:51 GMT -8
He's actually just kenny I made all my arguments in the live thread.
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Post by Sorian on Jan 19, 2016 14:57:19 GMT -8
He's actually just kenny I made all my arguments in the live thread. I mean, I agree with you for the most part. I'm more just curious what happens if we kill him from this side.
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Post by Sawneeks on Jan 19, 2016 15:14:16 GMT -8
I am saddened that us living folks didn't kill the ghostbuster again. It was a line of action I very much believed in. :( I'm not sure if I see the logic in this idea though. I mean, why else would Splinter tag-in KK in the middle of a game for no reason? It sounds silly but I believe his Ghostbuster claim and I think killing him might just cause someone else to jump in. There is a slight possibility that the 'Dark Ritual' or whatever caused KK to jump in and that would make him essentially confirmed Scum. I lean towards the former. What do you all thinks happen if we kill kingkitty? Our second place person also dies? What if we all just vote KK and no one puts out a stray vote? Just an RNG kill otherwise? Probably the same rules as Trigger's death, i.e. the second place vote also dies. I'm going to assume that if there is no second place then Splinter will RNG it because he seems to like to do that this game lol.
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Post by squidyj on Jan 19, 2016 15:17:26 GMT -8
I believe that KK is here because we lynched Trigger, I believe he is probably a ghostbuster, I do not believe there is an infinite line of ghostbusters behind him ready to jump in or that he is specifically Bryan Welsh.
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Post by squidyj on Jan 19, 2016 15:18:54 GMT -8
additionally I do not believe that having a ghostbuster around is a good idea for us as town with the game state as it is.
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Post by Sorian on Jan 19, 2016 15:24:02 GMT -8
I am saddened that us living folks didn't kill the ghostbuster again. It was a line of action I very much believed in. I'm not sure if I see the logic in this idea though. I mean, why else would Splinter tag-in KK in the middle of a game for no reason? It sounds silly but I believe his Ghostbuster claim and I think killing him might just cause someone else to jump in. There is a slight possibility that the 'Dark Ritual' or whatever caused KK to jump in and that would make him essentially confirmed Scum. I lean towards the former. What do you all thinks happen if we kill kingkitty? Our second place person also dies? What if we all just vote KK and no one puts out a stray vote? Just an RNG kill otherwise? Probably the same rules as Trigger's death, i.e. the second place vote also dies. I'm going to assume that if there is no second place then Splinter will RNG it because he seems to like to do that this game lol. I think the more we kill him, the more information will be revealed in the [redacted] portion of his role PM. I highly doubt the only information behind that redacted was just about the spirit world.
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Post by Sorian on Jan 19, 2016 15:26:05 GMT -8
That's totally a hunch though and I'll admit that my desire to ghost kill him is completely born from curiosity. Aside from his death maybe being the catalyst for that dark ritual (which is already in play forever now anyway apparently), I see no drawback to lynching him and keeping another target purposely in second place. Plus, that would be easier to do down here since there's probably 0-1 scum in this thread at the moment.
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Post by squidyj on Jan 19, 2016 15:26:34 GMT -8
Yeah, if Kitty is telling the truth there's still the mystery of why and how Bryan Welsh keeps on coming back.
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Post by Sawneeks on Jan 19, 2016 15:40:38 GMT -8
Eh, I just think if KK dies then either he or someone else will come and take up the SK mantle and killing him will just be a waste. Getting meta here for a bit but this game still has to be on track to end before the second week of February and having another killing role that can't disappear is probably to help move the game along. Also the whole '2nd place vote' might work but without real confirmation it would be a blind guess to see what happens and we may just end up only killing KK. You guys can give it a shot if you want but I think it's a waste of a NK. /shrug
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Post by Sorian on Jan 19, 2016 15:47:46 GMT -8
Eh, I just think if KK dies then either he or someone else will come and take up the SK mantle and killing him will just be a waste. Getting meta here for a bit but this game still has to be on track to end before the second week of February and having another killing role that can't disappear is probably to help move the game along. Also the whole '2nd place vote' might work but without real confirmation it would be a blind guess to see what happens and we may just end up only killing KK. You guys can give it a shot if you want but I think it's a waste of a NK. /shrug It's more just that I am curious how different powers interact with this role. Our kill is different from lynching so I want to see if there is a different effect there. Also, while typing this, I just realized the obvious. Roy brought up earlier how Kingkitty's win condition doesn't match up with scum's and he is right. KK probably can't win with scum and scum can permanently kill him with the SOUL DESTROY command.
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Post by Sawneeks on Jan 19, 2016 16:18:29 GMT -8
Eh, I just think if KK dies then either he or someone else will come and take up the SK mantle and killing him will just be a waste. Getting meta here for a bit but this game still has to be on track to end before the second week of February and having another killing role that can't disappear is probably to help move the game along. Also the whole '2nd place vote' might work but without real confirmation it would be a blind guess to see what happens and we may just end up only killing KK. You guys can give it a shot if you want but I think it's a waste of a NK. /shrug It's more just that I am curious how different powers interact with this role. Our kill is different from lynching so I want to see if there is a different effect there. Also, while typing this, I just realized the obvious. Roy brought up earlier how Kingkitty's win condition doesn't match up with scum's and he is right. KK probably can't win with scum and scum can permanently kill him with the SOUL DESTROY command. Sorian Member ***** Friend to Neutrals
:p
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Post by Sorian on Jan 19, 2016 16:22:02 GMT -8
It's more just that I am curious how different powers interact with this role. Our kill is different from lynching so I want to see if there is a different effect there. Also, while typing this, I just realized the obvious. Roy brought up earlier how Kingkitty's win condition doesn't match up with scum's and he is right. KK probably can't win with scum and scum can permanently kill him with the SOUL DESTROY command. Sorian Member ***** Friend to Neutrals
I already unlocked the achievement! Anyway, I still have to be practical. A neutral that can leave the game early? Sure, they're fine. A neutral that is a survivor? Eh, less so. Plus this neutral is so intriguing to me, I want to poke it a bit, it seems durable.
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Post by Sawneeks on Jan 19, 2016 16:48:48 GMT -8
Sorian Member ***** Friend to Neutrals
:p I already unlocked the achievement! Anyway, I still have to be practical. A neutral that can leave the game early? Sure, they're fine. A neutral that is a survivor? Eh, less so. Plus this neutral is so intriguing to me, I want to poke it a bit, it seems durable. I'm just being cautious lol. I've witnessed a good number of winning teams suddenly lose because they wanted to play around and giving something else a shot. I'm not saying lynching KK will lead Town to losing, but missing out on a NK is kind of a big deal especially considering Scum now has the ability to fully kill someone from the main thread each Night. I really do want to see if KK being killed means he just pops back in the next morning like nothing happened but I'm not going to join in to test that theory. :( Also, when I think about it the Neutral Survivor victory technically doesn't go against the Scum win condition, they would just have to kill/lynch the Ghostbuster last in order to win. Or it's somewhat of a loose win condition and Neutrals don't factor into it? idk
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Post by Sawneeks on Jan 19, 2016 17:03:14 GMT -8
Anyway, Ghostbusting aside, out of the list of potential victims I'm willing to go after
Dusk Soldier
Mazre
Terrabyte20xx
Xamtheking
Xam in particular is weird because of his shift from Day 1 into Day 2, something Crimson noticed in the main thread. It could very well be school work and other rl reasons, but Scum's MO this game has been 'hold on I'm working on it'. :p
Dusk is admittedly a null read for me. I didn't have much of an opinion on him up until the end of this Day phase where he really started to pick up and start posting. Nothing about his posts really stuck out to me in a negative way either but his ability to coast so easily is definitely odd. I'm not sure if he is Scum but if we want to take out another slightly-low post count player then he would be my pick.
Terra just keeps making odd posts, a lot of them feel forced. He obviously got a power from Magnum that allowed him to look at his own 'potential' and see what PR he would get when he came here. While Scrafty just kind of up and outed Tim's ability, Terra has been oddly silent on his. 'Cagey' would be the way I would describe it and it's bothered me. Why even say you have that ability if you're not going to elaborate? What did he find when he used that power to make him clam up? Although, after today's end, if Xam flips Scum then I feel okay with calling Terra Town. However, if Squidy flips Scum I think Terra has a higher chance of being Scum as well given that he avoided the end-of-day discussion about him.
Mazre is another null read but it's even stronger than Dusk's read. I can't pinpoint anything specific he said at all.
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Post by Sorian on Jan 19, 2016 17:59:09 GMT -8
Anyway, Ghostbusting aside, out of the list of potential victims I'm willing to go after Dusk Soldier Mazre Terrabyte20xx Xamtheking Xam in particular is weird because of his shift from Day 1 into Day 2, something Crimson noticed in the main thread. It could very well be school work and other rl reasons, but Scum's MO this game has been 'hold on I'm working on it'. Dusk is admittedly a null read for me. I didn't have much of an opinion on him up until the end of this Day phase where he really started to pick up and start posting. Nothing about his posts really stuck out to me in a negative way either but his ability to coast so easily is definitely odd. I'm not sure if he is Scum but if we want to take out another slightly-low post count player then he would be my pick. Terra just keeps making odd posts, a lot of them feel forced. He obviously got a power from Magnum that allowed him to look at his own 'potential' and see what PR he would get when he came here. While Scrafty just kind of up and outed Tim's ability, Terra has been oddly silent on his. 'Cagey' would be the way I would describe it and it's bothered me. Why even say you have that ability if you're not going to elaborate? What did he find when he used that power to make him clam up? Although, after today's end, if Xam flips Scum then I feel okay with calling Terra Town. However, if Squidy flips Scum I think Terra has a higher chance of being Scum as well given that he avoided the end-of-day discussion about him. Mazre is another null read but it's even stronger than Dusk's read. I can't pinpoint anything specific he said at all. A solid list, the only person I'd add at this time (though he'd be lower than a few of those) is Coppa. Something has been bothering me but it's so small that it just might be real life stuff. He's seemed to be less helpful than usual. In NV and hell, even in MGS when he was the SK, he was really involved and was always making posts unprompted just commenting on things. In this game, I feel like people ave to prod him a lot at time. Not really worth a vote or kill today but it's been bugging me. I'm up for nuking Xam tonight though, Crimson made a great great point and I'm certain he is town so I'm cool helping out there. Xam became sketchy day 2, no doubt. I am going to VOTE: Kingkitty though. #chaoticgood I want to see what happens if we get KK first and Xam second place.
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Post by Roytheone on Jan 20, 2016 2:36:49 GMT -8
If you guys go for the kitty + second place lynch, be careful to make sure there are enough votes on the number 2. It is extremely unlikely that there is enough scum here to try something, but better safe then sorry.
Also, do you guys think that if there isn't any scum here now, they will need to use an island bound scum to do the banish and soul destroy? In that case, tracking could be a very useful power.
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Post by ultron87 on Jan 20, 2016 6:30:57 GMT -8
What if Kitty is the missing Shaman that the flavor has mentioned a couple times? I'm not sure why he'd masquerade as a Serial Killer if that was the case, but just a thought. Presumably someone has, or will get, that role.
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Post by Sorian on Jan 20, 2016 7:30:20 GMT -8
If you guys go for the kitty + second place lynch, be careful to make sure there are enough votes on the number 2. It is extremely unlikely that there is enough scum here to try something, but better safe then sorry. Also, do you guys think that if there isn't any scum here now, they will need to use an island bound scum to do the banish and soul destroy? In that case, tracking could be a very useful power. I'm not 100% sold that tracking a living person would show them targeting a ghost but yes, with soul destroy in play, I was 100% planning to give my powers out for real today since that is a command that does target the living.
What if Kitty is the missing Shaman that the flavor has mentioned a couple times? I'm not sure why he'd masquerade as a Serial Killer if that was the case, but just a thought. Presumably someone has, or will get, that role.
Hmm, I do wonder about that shaman role but I'd hope KK wouldn't just show up and pretend to be a SK. We know for sure though that he did get a list of who was here because he knew about the replacements that the island thread didn't know about. He also said he specifically grabbed Zatoth and I think that was before Roy said anything so if nothing else, we do know he is killing ghosts in the same way the ghostbuster did.
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Post by Sorian on Jan 20, 2016 8:39:44 GMT -8
Come on guys, by my count, I only see one vote out there and it's mine on Kingkitty. Only 4.5 hours left and there's 8 of us in here.
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