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Post by ridli on Jan 14, 2016 11:37:10 GMT -8
The way this game plays is bizarre. It's sort of win win to get the good players dead on the island, right? Like ultron can play well. If he's scum and hiding right now, killing him brings him one step closer to banishment. If he's town, he's doing a shitty job of it, so having him here might give him the boost he needs to start playing better.
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Post by neverforever on Jan 14, 2016 11:37:26 GMT -8
Sorian is a significant presence on the island, to the point that he's a likely candidate for a day lynch anyway. There's only so much they can put up with.
Do we really want to use our NK to get rid of someone who the Island will likely get rid of without us? We'd be far better off focusing on someone on the periphery who's been avoiding the spotlight, rather than the attention whore. They're the people who town is far more likely to forget about and can sneak by unnoticed.
VOTE: Ultron
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Post by ridli on Jan 14, 2016 11:38:42 GMT -8
The way this game plays is bizarre. It's sort of win win to get the good players dead on the island, right? Like ultron can play well. If he's scum and hiding right now, killing him brings him one step closer to banishment. If he's town, he's doing a shitty job of it, so having him here might give him the boost he needs to start playing better. Ah, the obvious downside is we could run out of scum to hunt here, and spin our wheels. Nevermind! |
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Post by Sawneeks on Jan 14, 2016 11:38:51 GMT -8
Not going to lie, watching you and Sorian fight to the death would be entertaining. I'm not sure if I'm ready for the Afterlife post count to jump up 10+ pages though. What we take away from life, echoes in eternity etc. I mean, 10 pages of Sorian there10 pages of Sorian hereEither way, we're still gonna be Sorian Time is a flat circle. A circle in the shape of Sorian. Truly the most horrifying of revelations |
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Post by karu on Jan 14, 2016 11:39:50 GMT -8
Don't want to Turbo, but my Vote's (would be) on Ultron right now.
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Post by Swamped on Jan 14, 2016 11:41:31 GMT -8
Yeah, try not to turbo, we need to give everyone a chance to send in their bestow command.
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Post by Sawneeks on Jan 14, 2016 11:41:38 GMT -8
The way this game plays is bizarre. It's sort of win win to get the good players dead on the island, right? Like ultron can play well. If he's scum and hiding right now, killing him brings him one step closer to banishment. If he's town, he's doing a shitty job of it, so having him here might give him the boost he needs to start playing better. We also run the risk of helping Scum get closer to their win condition of killing everyone if we pick the wrong person. |
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Post by ridli on Jan 14, 2016 11:49:43 GMT -8
The way this game plays is bizarre. It's sort of win win to get the good players dead on the island, right? Like ultron can play well. If he's scum and hiding right now, killing him brings him one step closer to banishment. If he's town, he's doing a shitty job of it, so having him here might give him the boost he needs to start playing better. We also run the risk of helping Scum get closer to their win condition of killing everyone if we pick the wrong person. You're right. I keep thinking in terms of the standard mafia 50% of the game win, but thats only islanders and not us in here. |
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Post by Blargonaut on Jan 14, 2016 11:57:38 GMT -8
hmmm
I see this push towards Mr. ultron, so allow me to take an excerpt out of my current draft (PRE-ORDER TODAY) and hear me out on the Sorian case, before any of you decide to back down from this boss raid:
Basically, I want to keep Sorian where we can directly control the information and rumours he's been spreading about himself and what he knows, via roy and his Medium Role (well, at least while roy's still living).
My macro strat here, is that I'm thinking we should utilise our Nightly dragging-to-hell in a filtering and interrogation room-sense. As a priority, we should contain the players who we actively believe are poisoning the discussion, NOT contain the players who aren't adding to it; i.e, inactives and sidewinders.
Although, removing Sorian from the living will undoubtedly drastically decrease the post count and activity in said Island thread, I personally contend that that is an overall benefit to Town, because it will force said inactive players to quit their coasting on the sidelines and step up, especially regarding Mr. xam and Trigger
, and of course, your current excuse for this loss of spine, in ultron.
Bosses drop the best loot, and ultron is no tangible boss fight at all, pls.
At this early point, we should AIM to create a power void for now, one that said inactives will be forced to fill themselves.
Allowing Sorian to live on will only allow the inactives to remain in the shadows further, because there's only so much pressure he himself can put on them while alive; that is, if he's #Town, of course. The greatest pressure we can put on inactives is by forcibly removing their cover system.
Hence, VOTE SORIAN FOR DRAGGING TO HELL CANDIDACY
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Post by MagnumBoy20xx on Jan 14, 2016 11:59:21 GMT -8
This is a very confusing game, but from what I can gather those of us that are in the afterlife need to work together and help those who are still alive in the main thread using are abilities. I said this before, but I believe that the afterlife can be used as more of a deadmason thread if we can get rid of the scum that is already here(assuming L_P wasn't the only one). After all, if the main thread finds scum, we can just banish them just like that. However, this game might not be so simple so that's why I'm trying to get my bearings right now. Oh I understand in regards to the game being confusing. I just don't want you to slip past us. ;-) So... a.) why didn't you Vote yesterday? Besides LP - because that information would be useless now - who are the two other 2 `scum-candidates in the Afterlife right now in your mind? (How many scum are actually in here, is irrelevant to me right now.) b.) There are still 4 hours left to kill someone. If not for RL I hope you stay with us and chime in anyway. Two missed Votes after another are weird tbh. I didn't vote yesterday because I literally forgot about the game,sorry. As for two other scum candidates, I'm going to have to go with a instant gut reaction (which for me is 9/10 always wrong) of blarg and kalor. No real reason other then my initial intuition, which means that my stance on them will likely change as I get actual reads on people. |
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Post by ridli on Jan 14, 2016 12:01:34 GMT -8
I'm probably out for the rest of today, so welcome to whoever is about to show up! Make sure you read the OP in here.
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Post by Swamped on Jan 14, 2016 12:02:28 GMT -8
Yeah, I could still go for Sorian. I like Blarg's post. I also think that Sorian's flip (or half-flip, we won't know his alignment) could be useful. Besides I still don't trust him. I do like the idea of changing the dynamic in the main thread too.
VOTE: Sorian
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Post by ridli on Jan 14, 2016 12:03:20 GMT -8
Oh I understand in regards to the game being confusing. I just don't want you to slip past us. ;-) So... a.) why didn't you Vote yesterday? Besides LP - because that information would be useless now - who are the two other 2 `scum-candidates in the Afterlife right now in your mind? (How many scum are actually in here, is irrelevant to me right now.) b.) There are still 4 hours left to kill someone. If not for RL I hope you stay with us and chime in anyway. Two missed Votes after another are weird tbh. I didn't vote yesterday because I literally forgot about the game,sorry. As for two other scum candidates, I'm going to have to go with a instant gut reaction (which for me is 9/10 always wrong) of blarg and kalor. No real reason other then my initial intuition, which means that my stance on them will likely change as I get actual reads on people. You're still confused. Right now we're voting for a player in the island to kill. After that we'll be lynching an afterlife player again. |
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Post by zippedpinhead on Jan 14, 2016 12:06:51 GMT -8
Blarg makes a really compelling argument, almost like he used to lead a school...
vote: Sorian
That made me feel dirty...
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Post by karu on Jan 14, 2016 12:08:10 GMT -8
I didn't vote yesterday because I literally forgot about the game,sorry. As for two other scum candidates, I'm going to have to go with a instant gut reaction (which for me is 9/10 always wrong) of blarg and kalor. No real reason other then my initial intuition, which means that my stance on them will likely change as I get actual reads on people. You're still confused. Right now we're voting for a player in the island to kill. After that we'll be lynching an afterlife player again. Nah, I directly asked him to give me that information. |
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Post by Sawneeks on Jan 14, 2016 12:09:16 GMT -8
hmmm I see this push towards Mr. ultron, so allow me to take an excerpt out of my current draft (PRE-ORDER TODAY) and hear me out on the Sorian case, before any of you decide to back down from this boss raid: Basically, I want to keep Sorian where we can directly control the information and rumours he's been spreading about himself and what he knows, via roy and his Medium Role (well, at least while roy's still living). My macro strat here, is that I'm thinking we should utilise our Nightly dragging-to-hell in a filtering and interrogation room-sense. As a priority, we should contain the players who we actively believe are poisoning the discussion, NOT contain the players who aren't adding to it; i.e, inactives and sidewinders. Although, removing Sorian from the living will undoubtedly drastically decrease the post count and activity in said Island thread, I personally contend that that is an overall benefit to Town, because it will force said inactive players to quit their coasting on the sidelines and step up, especially regarding Mr. xam and Trigger , and of course, your current excuse for this loss of spine, in ultron. Bosses drop the best loot, and ultron is no tangible boss fight at all, pls. At this early point, we should AIM to create a power void for now, one that said inactives will be forced to fill themselves. Allowing Sorian to live on will only allow the inactives to remain in the shadows further, because there's only so much pressure he himself can put on them while alive; that is, if he's #Town, of course. The greatest pressure we can put on inactives is by forcibly removing their cover system.Hence, VOTE SORIAN FOR DRAGGING TO HELL CANDIDACY Your posts make a whole lot of sense and I agree with all of it but a couple things: 1. What if you die tonight?? I know you want to bring Sorian here for questioning and play Good Cop/Bad Cop with him but so far we don't know what exactly you want from him other than to bring him here. What do you want to get out of Sorian when he gets here? 2. I still think it's possible someone else who is still on the Island might try and kill Sorian. He keeps being a bigger target and sooner or later I think someone will attempt to get him, possibly even tonight and would make our kill a waste. 3. If I pre-order now do I get to beta test the next expansion? |
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Post by MagnumBoy20xx on Jan 14, 2016 12:10:15 GMT -8
I didn't vote yesterday because I literally forgot about the game,sorry. As for two other scum candidates, I'm going to have to go with a instant gut reaction (which for me is 9/10 always wrong) of blarg and kalor. No real reason other then my initial intuition, which means that my stance on them will likely change as I get actual reads on people. You're still confused. Right now we're voting for a player in the island to kill. After that we'll be lynching an afterlife player again. yeah, just realized that now. I honestly have no idea who to vote for in that regard. I guess I would be fine with Sorian, as he not only voted for you, but it would hopefully get us more information... I think.(still confused, please bare with me for the moment. Should get better at the start of next day phase.) |
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Post by Kalor on Jan 14, 2016 12:15:26 GMT -8
That case for Sorian is good and I would change my vote if it didn't bring us close to a majority. At this point he would likely do more harm than good with the declining numbers. He might have some separate win condition if he is neutral so it means that he won't be able to potentially win early.
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Post by Sawneeks on Jan 14, 2016 12:20:11 GMT -8
Here is a quick Vote Count:
nin1000 1
Kalor 19552
Sorian 5
ridli 19446
Hyperactivity 19556
Blargonaut 19558
Swamped
Zipped
ultron87 2
Sawneeks 19640
NeverForever
Not Yet Voted 2
karu 19386
MagnumBoy20xx 19386
Majority is 6 btw
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Post by zippedpinhead on Jan 14, 2016 12:22:01 GMT -8
Anymore votes on Sorian IS majority,
Just an FYI
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Post by Roytheone on Jan 14, 2016 12:27:36 GMT -8
Watching a vote going and not being able to vote is.....annoying  |
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Post by Splinter on Jan 14, 2016 12:33:36 GMT -8
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Post by MagnumBoy20xx on Jan 14, 2016 12:35:34 GMT -8
I'm willing to hammer Sorian if you guys think that we've reached the end of this discussion.
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Post by karu on Jan 14, 2016 12:37:41 GMT -8
I'm willing to hammer Sorian if you guys think that we've reached the end of this discussion. No, not yet. |
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Post by karu on Jan 14, 2016 12:46:24 GMT -8
Okay, thanks. Done with business for today. ;-)
Since I held up Magnum for giving the finishing blow, I want to refrain from doing it myself.
I won't Vote. But for discussion sake, my Vote would go to Ultron while I can live with Sorian.
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Post by MagnumBoy20xx on Jan 14, 2016 12:48:31 GMT -8
Okay, thanks. Done with business for today. ;-) Since I held up Magnum for giving the finishing blow, I want to refrain from doing it myself. I won't Vote. But for discussion sake, my Vote would go to Ultron while I can live with Sorian. does this mean I can Hammer now? |
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Post by MagnumBoy20xx on Jan 14, 2016 12:54:58 GMT -8
Well, it's been five minutes and no one has made an objection so...HAMMER TIME!
Vote: Dorian
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Post by ridli on Jan 14, 2016 12:54:59 GMT -8
Sure. Makes life easier for Splinter.
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Post by ridli on Jan 14, 2016 12:55:25 GMT -8
Well, it's been five minutes and no one has made an objection so...HAMMER TIME! Vote: DorianOh no, not Dorian! Lol |
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Post by MagnumBoy20xx on Jan 14, 2016 12:56:03 GMT -8
Stupid auto correct!
Vote: Sorian
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