Burbeting
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The obligatory (gay) bear of the society!
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Post by Burbeting on Jul 27, 2017 12:23:58 GMT -8
May Our Ship Live Forever!
Welcome to your Private Shipper Chat!
You may use this chat during either day or night phases.
You can ask any questions to me here, as well.
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Post by franconp on Jul 27, 2017 14:49:55 GMT -8
Hi Dr!
We got a good role!
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Post by drworm on Jul 27, 2017 14:57:12 GMT -8
good to see ya, franconp. thanks for running Arkham!
3 shots seems a little weird for 15-ship game to me - it's a restriction, but barely (oh sorry Burb, bearly)
in a game with a typical one death per phase cycle, we stand a 40% chance of being dead by the time D4 rolls around
that doesn't account for higher profile ships like Ourokitty or FatSorian potentially being mafia targets, but I do think we should be relatively liberal with how we use our shots - maybe not blow them all by D4, but frontloading seems to be the better bet to me than backloading
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Post by franconp on Jul 27, 2017 15:20:48 GMT -8
I agreed with Ourokitty and FatSorian being 2 of the biggest scum targets. I would also add Crimsophia too. Both have a lot of experience and are good players.
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Post by drworm on Jul 27, 2017 15:25:00 GMT -8
mmmhmm. probably not worth tracking them, since I doubt scum would put them out for the kill
should we sync avatars? I haven't changed mine since PPM
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Post by drworm on Jul 27, 2017 15:33:33 GMT -8
I'm almost worried that if we claim 3-shot, people will think we're scum because we have so many shots
I think the ideal gameplan is to use two early on, then see if we need to claim from there and drop hints about it before using the last shot
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Post by franconp on Jul 27, 2017 16:55:30 GMT -8
Look that we are trackers, we follow people and we know who THEY visited.
It depends of how the game goes day one but I would save the shots. The role is more important the longer stays in the game.
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Post by franconp on Jul 27, 2017 16:56:26 GMT -8
Also I just saw the start time and I won't be around for any end day unless it's a weekend, and even then I may not be around.
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Post by drworm on Jul 27, 2017 19:03:05 GMT -8
my concern is that if we focus too much on conserving shots, either we'll die or the mafia will win before we did anything useful with them
while we should save at least one for later stages, I wouldn't want to risk hanging on to all of them
looking at the pair list:
1. [m] Muffin1611 & [f] Samuraischnecke 2. [m] TheExodu5 & [m] Fireblend 3. [m] Fat4all & [m] Sorian 4. [m] CrimsonFist & [f] Sophia 5. [m] TsuXna & [m] Royal_Flush 6. [m] franconp & [m] Dr. Worm 7. [m] Xbro & [m] TheGoddamn 8. [m] Trigger & [m] Ty4on 9. [f] kitsunelaine & [m] flatearthpandas 10. [m] Natiko & [m] Nomadic Sparks 11. [m] Verelios & [f] WhereAreMahDragonz 12. [m] Ourobolus & [m] kingkitty 13. [m] Orb & [m] TheWorthyEdge 14. [f] StarSketch & [m] SexyFish 15. [-] Darryl & [m] nin1000
I think the most likely pairs to "fly under the radar" will be #s 1, 5, 7, 9, 10, and 14, and I think they'd be the ones most likely to submit NKs if they're scum
since I would imagine that the scumteam is packing a limited-shot Ninja, it may be worth our while to Track on N1, given that I don't think they'd use a Ninja that early
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Post by drworm on Jul 27, 2017 19:08:20 GMT -8
then again, N1 has a ton of targets who might not last, and the "under the radar" picks are probably NK targets themselves
so it would be more prudent to hold off until N2, when we have two voting rounds + one NK to work with
(I'm gonna be thinking aloud in this thread a lot, if that's alright)
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Post by franconp on Jul 28, 2017 6:45:24 GMT -8
It's alright. I will be thinking aloud a lot too. my concern is that if we focus too much on conserving shots, either we'll die or the mafia will win before we did anything useful with them while we should save at least one for later stages, I wouldn't want to risk hanging on to all of them looking at the pair list: 1. [m] Muffin1611 & [f] Samuraischnecke 2. [m] TheExodu5 & [m] Fireblend 3. [m] Fat4all & [m] Sorian 4. [m] CrimsonFist & [f] Sophia 5. [m] TsuXna & [m] Royal_Flush 6. [m] franconp & [m] Dr. Worm 7. [m] Xbro & [m] TheGoddamn 8. [m] Trigger & [m] Ty4on 9. [f] kitsunelaine & [m] flatearthpandas 10. [m] Natiko & [m] Nomadic Sparks 11. [m] Verelios & [f] WhereAreMahDragonz 12. [m] Ourobolus & [m] kingkitty 13. [m] Orb & [m] TheWorthyEdge 14. [f] StarSketch & [m] SexyFish 15. [-] Darryl & [m] nin1000 I think the most likely pairs to "fly under the radar" will be #s 1, 5, 7, 9, 10, and 14, and I think they'd be the ones most likely to submit NKs if they're scum since I would imagine that the scumteam is packing a limited-shot Ninja, it may be worth our while to Track on N1, given that I don't think they'd use a Ninja that early From the pairs in bolded: 1 - Newbies. No idea. 5 - I don't remember if I played with Royal. He played Arkham. Not a really prolific poster. Don't know his partner. 7 - Didn't knew any of them. Now Kark is in there. The switch is weird, makes me think there was a mistake. I expect him to gambit day 1. 9 - I have played with both of them. FEP doesn't post much but I think I can make a read from him. I played only against townie Kitsune. 10- Played several times with Natiko. He post a lot. He is difficult to read, as he usually seems town as neutral but I don't know if he was a scum yet. Haven't played with Nomadic but from the games that I have read he made several mistakes. 14- Played with StarSketch before (modded SexyFish) but I don't know if I can get a read out of her. I'm kinda worried with pair 8: Ty is a good player. I usually leans to townread him. Don't know Trigger. I feel more confident to get reads from 11, 12 and 15. Played several games with them. From FatSorian I think I can make a read from Fat. Sorian is difficult. But I expect them to die quickly. If they don't it's very likely they are scum.
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Post by drworm on Jul 28, 2017 12:02:16 GMT -8
Scratch 7 and 10, yeah
That leaves 1, 5, 9, and 14 as either potential scum targets or potential NK deliverers
For a 3ship scumteam, the odds would be around 64% that at least of those teams would be on the scumteam
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Post by franconp on Jul 28, 2017 12:31:52 GMT -8
Just some heads up:
I usually overanalize posts so expect several long posts with quotes and some weird theories. Most likely they won't make sense or have a whole lot of holes in them. If you think they are not working just tell me.
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Post by drworm on Jul 28, 2017 15:42:56 GMT -8
If that's your thing, I won't get in your way
I might even supply you with ideas
But I don't expect you to be tied to my trains of thought, and I wouldn't worry about syncing votes until the Day ends
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Post by drworm on Jul 30, 2017 17:22:11 GMT -8
we doing anything special for an opener? or sit back and let the gambits roll in?
checked our timezones, you're an hour ahead of me, yeah? I'll try to bear that in mind.
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Post by franconp on Jul 30, 2017 18:53:09 GMT -8
I usually don't gambit. I don't think it's a good idea that I do it now. People can see it strange. If you want to do a gambit feel free to do it.
Day one usually I just try to make conversation and prod people with questions so I got more info further in the game. I will ask for opinions about another players and gamestyles. You can just play your regular game.
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Post by drworm on Jul 30, 2017 19:13:00 GMT -8
I'm bad at openers and may get us killed early, just fyi
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Post by franconp on Jul 31, 2017 2:42:07 GMT -8
I won't be around for the first 3 hours of the game.
If I have to guess the start of the day will go: Sorian will have the first post (pretyped) where he will do his usual rundown of the mechanics of the game and general mafia concepts and will make a random vote. Then several players will make random votes (I'm thinking Exodus & Fireblend, Kitsune, TWE and some newbies). If one of the random votes fall on a newbie he will counter vote (OMGUS) or attack the voter. Kark will vote No Lynch and will push for everyone to vote like him. I also expect Nin, Ouro's team, Vere's team, Fat and Sophia to do a lot of shitpost at game start.
I would attack the OMGUS and counter-argument Kark but doing it mildly as both of them aren't indicators of aligment.
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Post by drworm on Jul 31, 2017 14:12:19 GMT -8
maybe I'll just shitpost or something
I'll probably get called out by Natiko and Sorian for not contributing, again, but w/e, there's too many people starting their own fired for me to care
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Post by franconp on Aug 1, 2017 2:44:12 GMT -8
Don't worry too much. I'm usually townreaded the first days so maybe it will compensate.
Game mechanics: So, 15 pairs game. 3 scum pairs seems good, right?. Maybe 1 neutral pair? It's likely scum have a couple of ninja shots based on our role.
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Post by drworm on Aug 1, 2017 12:24:00 GMT -8
Got a couple of shitposts in
I'll leave the rest of the game to you
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Post by drworm on Aug 1, 2017 12:41:39 GMT -8
Normally I tell myself that I'm engaged in some bold, masterful strategy when I post stupid shit
But this is just aimless shitposting
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Post by franconp on Aug 1, 2017 14:18:18 GMT -8
I'm planning to just push conversation. Nothing caught up my attention yet.
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Post by drworm on Aug 1, 2017 15:08:14 GMT -8
Sophia's invocation of her private chat her is... weird to me
like, I could score easy points by smarmily noting that we have no idea if she's posting there at all
but moreso, I'm paying attention to which players are pointing out their team chats, since mafia's chat has like six people in it and they wouldn't necessarily care about who's their partner
and from that perspective, it seems like it's almost a weirdly intentional reminder that she does in fact have a private chat between herself and Crimson
maybe I'm just looking too much into it, though
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Post by drworm on Aug 1, 2017 15:24:51 GMT -8
Nomadic Sparks is a red herring
seriously, don't even bother
I played with him in PPM and he claimed doctor under zero duress
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Post by drworm on Aug 1, 2017 15:48:10 GMT -8
This is oddly specific
I want to townread CrimSoph, but she's not making this easy for me
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Post by franconp on Aug 1, 2017 16:22:15 GMT -8
Sophia's invocation of her private chat her is... weird to me like, I could score easy points by smarmily noting that we have no idea if she's posting there at all but moreso, I'm paying attention to which players are pointing out their team chats, since mafia's chat has like six people in it and they wouldn't necessarily care about who's their partner and from that perspective, it seems like it's almost a weirdly intentional reminder that she does in fact have a private chat between herself and Crimson maybe I'm just looking too much into it, though I think that she is posting in whatever chat she has. That won't give you townie points.
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Post by drworm on Aug 1, 2017 16:23:45 GMT -8
I meant that we don't know if she's actually using it and it doesn't count as contributing
but do the other things seem weird at all, or is it just me?
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Post by franconp on Aug 1, 2017 16:24:33 GMT -8
Nomadic Sparks is a red herring seriously, don't even bother I played with him in PPM and he claimed doctor under zero duress I know. But he is also the weakest link in that pair as Natiko is a really good player. He is our biggest chance to get good readings there.
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Post by drworm on Aug 1, 2017 16:32:52 GMT -8
2. [m] TheExodu5 & [m] Fireblend
5. [m] TsuXna & [m] Royal_Flush
7. [m] Xbro & [m] Karkador
9. [f] kitsunelaine & [m] flatearthpandas
13. [m] Orb & [m] TheWorthyEdge
14. [f] StarSketch & [m] SexyFish
15. [-] Darryl & [m] nin1000
half the game has barely said shit
I think many of our chattier Cathys are town and we're seeing scum holding back
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