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Post by Terrabyte20xx on Jan 27, 2017 8:07:55 GMT -8
AB, you get first pick.
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Post by absolutbro on Jan 27, 2017 8:13:51 GMT -8
Given that they know Scum gets fake claims, I doubt they will ask for character names. Good catch though, that could have tripped us up. I'm assuming that Kyan got a safe claim as the SK.
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Post by absolutbro on Jan 27, 2017 8:14:24 GMT -8
Guess I'll go Red Link?
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Post by Terrabyte20xx on Jan 27, 2017 8:18:25 GMT -8
Linkle it is then.
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Post by ynnek7 on Jan 27, 2017 8:26:28 GMT -8
Just to note, the SK has got to be Tingle. There's no other options, lol.
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Post by Terrabyte20xx on Jan 27, 2017 11:15:16 GMT -8
"Ok Magnum, time to shine!" I am a terrible brother
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Post by absolutbro on Jan 27, 2017 11:43:44 GMT -8
wait what is Splinter trying to do?
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Post by ynnek7 on Jan 27, 2017 11:47:09 GMT -8
Crap. Unless he's bluffing, he some how saw you visit ty4on last night for the kill/item pass. Another effect of his item?
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Post by absolutbro on Jan 27, 2017 11:47:30 GMT -8
maybe he's trying to build busses, see who jumps on a vote?
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Post by absolutbro on Jan 27, 2017 11:48:10 GMT -8
That would mean he's using his power backwards, since Ty didn't visit me, I visited Ty.
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Post by absolutbro on Jan 27, 2017 11:51:27 GMT -8
I think I can build a case for *Splinter and Kyan as scum buddies. Kyan is on the hook, so here comes *Splinter with a gambit to save him. Kyan left *Splinter off the list of candidates for SK (we can bill this as a slip of scum buddies), and then got defensive when I called him on it.
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Post by ynnek7 on Jan 27, 2017 11:52:07 GMT -8
I think he's saying ty gave you an item n3, and then he tracked you N4 when you went to ty.
He's assuming it was to give him back the bomb, or at least not mentioning that it could have been for the kill.
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Post by absolutbro on Jan 27, 2017 11:58:32 GMT -8
Possibly. I still think my case can be made. I wish it was being done closer to the end of the phase, but we will see.
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Post by ynnek7 on Jan 27, 2017 12:03:07 GMT -8
Yeah, your idea can definitely still work. No one else knows how the items work. Terra's was a 1 shot, the bomb was random. What ever he has could be anything.
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Post by Terrabyte20xx on Jan 27, 2017 12:07:08 GMT -8
Splinter is an idiot if he thinks this kind of ploy could work without offering any kind of proof.
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Post by absolutbro on Jan 27, 2017 12:08:20 GMT -8
I think his silence after my "you and Kyan" post works in our favor. I think plenty of people already suspect Kyan, nin and Bronx at least I think. working on it now.
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Post by Terrabyte20xx on Jan 27, 2017 12:12:01 GMT -8
THAT'S his reasoning?
Wow. Just wow.
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Post by ynnek7 on Jan 27, 2017 12:17:44 GMT -8
Okay, this will be a lot easier for you to fight with it just being an assumption of his. I was really worried he tracked you somehow, lol.
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Post by absolutbro on Jan 27, 2017 12:25:20 GMT -8
oh man, Terra I love you for asking that. "You found the breadcrumb I found!" "What breadcrumb?" "Well, I didnt actually find a breadcrumb, per se..."
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Post by Terrabyte20xx on Jan 27, 2017 12:27:38 GMT -8
If someone is going to make a major claim like that, they really need to back it up with proof.
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Post by absolutbro on Jan 27, 2017 12:34:21 GMT -8
What do you think: We will start with this post from Kyan. It's longer than I would like to quote, but I will bring the relevant parts out. I linked the post so you can see them in context though. We start off with just a bit of "well maybe" and defense. This is to set *Splinter up as reliable to Nin, whom *Splinter had just "cleared". This clear means little if *Splinter is Scum; he knows Nin is either town or the SK (who isn't going to argue against being cleared as town). This line in particular: "While Splinter's alignment is still bit hazy, I do not really see a good reason for scum to do what he did." is telling. *Splinter's alignment at this point isn't "still bit hazy", it's completely unknown. It's also important to note, I asked *Splinter about this clear: He never answered. What really caught me eye though, and I mentioned it earlier, was this: There is nothing at this point to clear *Splinter of being the SK, but Kyan does. Why? My guess? It's a mental slip because *Splinter is one of his scum buddies. When I call him on it? He could have just said "whoops, my bad, you're right." But no, he doubled down. First he tried to brush it off, then off handedly dismiss it with "better targets out there". When I pressed him on it he just got more defensive. Remember when we did my little experiment? And I commented I needed to reread Kyan because I thought it was odd no one mentioned him? Kyan's answer: I have mentioned Kyan all of twice until the experiment. Once in a D1 read list of "why speculate on Ty4on's PR" and then this: But apparently, that's enough to "not be surprised it's [me] who brings him up". And so now, at the end of a crucial day, *Splinter comes out of nowhere with "you lied to us", when Kyan's neck is on the line.
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Post by absolutbro on Jan 27, 2017 12:37:23 GMT -8
update: We will start with this post from Kyan. It's longer than I would like to quote, but I will bring the relevant parts out. I linked the post so you can see them in context though. We start off with just a bit of "well maybe" and defense. This is to set *Splinter up as reliable to Nin, whom *Splinter had just "cleared". This clear means little if *Splinter is Scum; he knows Nin is either town or the SK (who isn't going to argue against being cleared as town). This line in particular: "While Splinter's alignment is still bit hazy, I do not really see a good reason for scum to do what he did." is telling. *Splinter's alignment at this point isn't "still bit hazy", it's completely unknown. It's also important to note, I asked *Splinter about this clear: He never answered. What really caught me eye though, and I mentioned it earlier, was this: There is nothing at this point to clear *Splinter of being the SK, but Kyan does. Why? My guess? It's a mental slip because *Splinter is one of his scum buddies. When I call him on it? He could have just said "whoops, my bad, you're right." But no, he doubled down. First he tried to brush it off, then off handedly dismiss it with "better targets out there". When I pressed him on it he just got more defensive. Remember when we did my little experiment? And I commented I needed to reread Kyan because I thought it was odd no one mentioned him? Kyan's answer: I have mentioned Kyan all of twice until the experiment. Once in a D1 read list of "why speculate on Ty4on's PR" and then this: But apparently, that's enough to "not be surprised it's [me] who brings him up". And so now, during a crucial day, *Splinter comes out of nowhere with "you lied to us", when Kyan's neck is on the line. He backed Kyan's call for a mass role claim after Kyan got called out for being RBed on a night with one kill. But wants you to think he's above suspicion:
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Post by absolutbro on Jan 27, 2017 12:37:58 GMT -8
Or leave the last bit off?
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Post by absolutbro on Jan 27, 2017 12:39:54 GMT -8
gotta get going, so I'm going to post what I have there. I will be on mobile for a bit hopefully.
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Post by ynnek7 on Jan 27, 2017 12:43:40 GMT -8
I like it! That last bit is good, I think. There's still debate on his alignment, so there's no reason for him to be trusted, unless he just means due to your survey.
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Post by ynnek7 on Jan 27, 2017 13:48:33 GMT -8
Is this sound reasoning?
If kyan doesn't get lynched today, then yeah, I'm parking my roleblock on him.
Personally, I'd rather we lynch him today. Keeping kyan alive at this point means that I'll have to roleblock him every night until scum decides its a good night to get rid of me. That will probably be tonight while the odds of kyan hitting town are still a bit better than hitting scum. My flip will prove I was right, and the next day everyone can vote off kyan.
Lynching him today, however, gives me a chance to block the scum night kill. And unlike yesterday, I won't be asking for suggestions on who to block.
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Post by absolutbro on Jan 27, 2017 13:54:27 GMT -8
Let me get a pot shot in. Going to make a "is th is where scum buses their friend" post.
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Post by Terrabyte20xx on Jan 27, 2017 14:48:15 GMT -8
Man, trying to pull this off is ridiculously frustrating. But it will be oh so worth it!
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Post by absolutbro on Jan 27, 2017 14:57:02 GMT -8
so much shade being thrown around, I am really not liking that we're basically counting on Nin, Bronx and/or Magnum to go our way.
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Post by ynnek7 on Jan 27, 2017 15:05:49 GMT -8
Yeah, too many unknowns right now. Kind of hoping kyan throws enough shade to drive the others away from listening to him.
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